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    Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Greetings gents, been awhile & hope all is well. So in the past, the very far past I mentioned I work on music & I’m starting to make progress in my art. If I want to succeed, we all know what happens these days anytime someone successful enough to gain an following can lose audience(income) the second they open their mouth because the world is now a highly sensitive gumball. But any listener can be a consumer/customer in the direct to fan independent business. So to get to the point.

    Should I be a silent mgtow to female fans? And in general in any career move when it comes to promotion since we all know women take so much from us with no return why not just let them pay it back as buyers if that makes sense? After seeing mgtow content creators suffer on “TheirTube” I feel being at peace & respecting our freedom behind the scenes can protect what we establish. I also want to run an e-commerce website selling my own audio products that female musicians/producers might take interest to. Again, since they take, I feel I don’t have to be anything more to them but professional or interactive/engaging in the typical lame social media marketing sense. Thoughts?

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    My advice may not work for everyone as it requires some conditions to exist, but it does allow me to be in my real form with whomever I interact. In fact, some of them actually ghost towards me !!! They will not talk about their feminist or woke viewpoints to me !! Which I am fine with, I dont care.

    My main profession is programming, and this is what I use to make money. Though recently I've been working hard on my digital painting skills, I havent used it to earn any money yet.

    First and foremost of my rule is to NEVER interact directly with anything which is BIG. Which means government, corporations and public at large. So all the people I work with, are themselves bosses or small teams. I am simply an external contractor from the pov of their business. This makes it very hard to "fire" me or "cancel" me. The most they can do is terminate their contract with me.

    Second rule is that I will not advertise myself anywhere, and let the word of mouth do its work. Which means I only work with friends and family. Anybody new I work with, should come through those who I have worked with in the past. This results in high trust on both sides.

    Now with that said, I bring great value for money for the people I work with, giving them a very large economic incentive to tolerate my "blasphemous" viewpoints against the modern woke religion.
    Unless stated otherwise, I am NOT presenting my preferences.

    Preferences can be views, thoughts, opinions, philosophies, morals, values, ideology, imaginations, fantasies, fictions, god, soul, spirit...

    I am using scientific method, its an algorithmic computation, designed to give highest efficiency and chance to win in a conflict, at a very high cost of mental discomfort of not adhering to preferences and spending time and energy on the computation.

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    My advice may not work for everyone as it requires some conditions to exist, but it does allow me to be in my real form with whomever I interact. In fact, some of them actually ghost towards me !!! They will not talk about their feminist or woke viewpoints to me !! Which I am fine with, I dont care.

    My main profession is programming, and this is what I use to make money. Though recently I've been working hard on my digital painting skills, I havent used it to earn any money yet.

    First and foremost of my rule is to NEVER interact directly with anything which is BIG. Which means government, corporations and public at large. So all the people I work with, are themselves bosses or small teams. I am simply an external contractor from the pov of their business. This makes it very hard to "fire" me or "cancel" me. The most they can do is terminate their contract with me.

    Second rule is that I will not advertise myself anywhere, and let the word of mouth do its work. Which means I only work with friends and family. Anybody new I work with, should come through those who I have worked with in the past. This results in high trust on both sides.

    Now with that said, I bring great value for money for the people I work with, giving them a very large economic incentive to tolerate my "blasphemous" viewpoints against the modern woke religion.
    Woke isn't a religion, far from it, it's a dangerous cult that seeks only dominance and control.
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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    KGB defector on cultural marxism and KGB "Active Measures" to brainwash and demoralize Americans such as the woke craze . . . short trailer - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsBRGCabaog
    Full lecture: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRqiJSEj5UY

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Woke isn't a religion, far from it, it's a dangerous cult that seeks only dominance and control.

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Woke isn't a religion, far from it, it's a dangerous cult that seeks only dominance and control.
    Agreed, I refer to it as a religion because there can only be three ways to influence and/or control other people :

    1. By Force : Do this or else __.
    2. By Religion : Do this because this is the right way.
    3. By Logic : Do this because it can be derived from something which we both (participants in interaction) believe or observe.

    There is literally no other way. MGTOW appeals to us by #3 which is why we adopt that lifestyle/philosophy. It derives certain properties about women and society based on things which we can commonly observe in our everyday life. The wokeness appeals to people by #2, saying this or that is the right way or moral way, and also has the backing of the state/government which will utilize #1, if one becomes too much of a problem.

    I myself can only be appealed by #3. I reject all forms of #2, and will try to resist #1 as much as I can.
    Unless stated otherwise, I am NOT presenting my preferences.

    Preferences can be views, thoughts, opinions, philosophies, morals, values, ideology, imaginations, fantasies, fictions, god, soul, spirit...

    I am using scientific method, its an algorithmic computation, designed to give highest efficiency and chance to win in a conflict, at a very high cost of mental discomfort of not adhering to preferences and spending time and energy on the computation.

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    I have been an advocate of speaking the truth, maybe not the whole truth – keep some things to yourself! This is my way.

    But…

    I’m not trying to create a business. In your scenario I recommend lying your balls off.

    The whole point of running a business is to make money to live the life you want to live. Once you have succeeded in making your fortune, then you can start to speak the truth publicly as you see it and it will carry more weight.

    I don't like this, but it is how the world works.

    That being said, watch out for the #metoo’ers. Keep your bases covered.

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    To sell out or not to sell out... that is the question facing every artist!
    Unfortunately as a man there'll be no future metoo movement to bail you out when things dry up..
    The choice is yours!
    I would operate somewhere between charming and indifferent (or flit between the two). But be aware of the many risks of dealing with women, and know there are no guarantees.
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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Depending on your country, financial and work situation you may risk more or less.

    However I would never openly use any form of Redpill/MGTOW terminology. I live in western Europe and here it takes very little to get pushed into the rapist or nazi corner. You might take that risk if you are 75 years old and have secured a high pension. But for a men in his forties like me? No, not taking this risk.

    I do share redpill knowledge in real life. Lately one of my friends was wasting a lot money on dating. I told him, that spending lots of money doesn't increase his chance of getting laid. That he should make coffee dates. Or go for some outdoor activity with her.

    Or once a co-worker claimed «happy wife, happy life» I felt safe arguing that only a happy man can make is wife happy, so he should make himself happy first.
    I am very careful to use only vocabulary familiar to a bluepiller. Why should I risk my reputation at work, when I can spread MGTOW anonymous on the web?

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Quote Originally Posted by QuiteHappy View Post
    However I would never openly use any form of Redpill/MGTOW terminology.
    Sound advice. I've noticed recently the term red-pill making it in to MSM and even everyday life. This could be used to out us making for a target.

    Keep the heads down guys.

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Art and music. Who is your audience? Who will be buying it? Age group and gender also comes into play. If you were going to target an audience for the highest disposable income pre-teen and teen girls, blowing daddy's money. Another thing to keep in mind, girls or women think/reason more with their emotions, this is why they love music and the people that sing the songs. The music stimulates the emotions to highs and lows. Go somewhere local and observe the teens, most have ear plugs in listening to music.

    For the most part, no one wants to hear about TRP/MGTOW unless they are looking for answers. Women know but don't want the word out and will fight to silence you. "Once the smoke escapes you can't put it back in", blacklisted and hated on. Blue pilled boys and men want to live the Disney dream where everything is soft and fluffy...

    TRP/MGTOW audience is tiny still to sell music to. TRP movement is very fractured also, lots of men but in different places.

    Best to hit for the mainstream audience, keep your mouth shut about your beliefs to fly under the radar while filling your pockets doing what you love.

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    Re: Career advice. Be silent & roll with it?

    Thanks brothers! I’ve been at it in the studio composing my ass off & learning all I can about this business to succeed independently. It’s been stressful, exhausting, alot of reading & practice but in the end that’s doing more than a simp blue piller singing love songs(or heartbreak songs). Anyway, agreed best I keep RP & Mgtow private. Just sucks if the feminist causes get pushed my way. My plan is to promote strictly my content.


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