I have seen simps turning into MGToW after red pill or staying redpill. But women on the other hand if they're given red pill about themselves. They rather embrace their instinctive pattern of 90-20% rule and further excuse it as having high standards. They even stay blinded shamelessly for years dating the top 20% and later on shamelessly seeking a decent guy even after recognising their pattern. Cause that's what our society has evolved into, a shameless husband of a nagging whore called women. Can't say no to a women. Women is always right etc. Earlier it was the boss is always right, now women are the boss. I have also observed a drastic difference in between male and female mindset. When it comes to thrill or dopamine etc, cause thrill is the highest form of high brain can get, not drugs or alcohol etc. Generally the negative things i am talking about, cause doing negative things gives you highest form of high beating alcohol and drugs etc. everyone in teen age experiences it, some get addicted to it and some don't. Men are thrilled by winning a physical fight, rash driving, smoking, foul language, stealing etc. Women on the other hand are thrilled by totally different things. things revolve around being shameless. They get thrilled while being famous, having chased by multiple guys, chasing the bad guy/famous guy, having sex with lot of men. Once they're addicted to it, a new form of psyche develops in which fun activities are getting naked on the streets, getting gang banged or used as a slave, boobs pierced, loving abuse by their male partners, and a lot of insane stuff etc. From what I've noticed is that guys generally move on from those negative elements after teen age, evolve into good guy, some don't. But women once trapped are all thrill seekers just to experience that high. They coming up with excuses my body my choice, don't judge me etc. Men is more strong mentally than a women another + in my book. What i've experienced.