Thread: Bumble Dating Site Woman Are Only Allowed To Ask Men For A Date, Men Cannot Initiate Contact

Originally Posted by kru-kut

My family is the people who agree with me.

The ones that'll back you, not the ones that will backstab you!

It's really easy to filter them out if you have the right kind of principles, which I believe you do.

To me it's like running a psychological recycling plant, everything must be processed down to the smallest clue, it's a matter of filtering everything out and sending the rest to your incinerator that creates all the power to run the entire plant and make a few bucks too. It's all automated and took a long time to perfect! In one end and out the other, like shit through a goose!

Originally Posted by kru-kut

My family is the people who agree with me.

I wish my family was. When my mother had spent all my father's money she moved on. My sisters said that she had the right to be happy. When my youngest sister's husband cheated on her, I reminded her that he has the right to be happy. Apparently I'm a bastard.

Yep, that's exactly how it works. It's the human-relations variant of NIMBY.

The guys who want to "settle down" but can't, and wind up being disappointed, are running with antiquated information. They've failed to inform themselves on what the current M/F situation is actually like: the legal and financial hazards that are part of every marriage nowadays. So, I kind of feel bad for them, but not all that much. After all, we do have the Internet. It's not a stretch to expect the average man to be able to dig into all the available information, get the real facts, and set his expectations according to those rather than according to outmoded and blatantly false notions of romance and Happily Ever After. It was never anything but nonsense.

I half agree. Where I don't is that a portion of men would still do it tomorrow anyway, despite the risks. And I'm not into shaming men for this choice. I recognise this is fulfilment to them. Kids, the white picket fence, handing your paycheck to the fat controller in the kitchen. Any man is free to make his own choices, and bear the responsibility for said choices. Maybe they gotta learn the hard way.

A handful of my friends who have decent jobs, are honest/reliable who have muscles (six pack) who put in a lot of effort with women and are decent people, who have had their profiles professionally made, cannot even get a single date on Tinder.

This is what I mean. Good men who would have 'had it all' only one generation ago, are now begging for scraps. I empathise, for they have been denied their birthright - pretty much.

Of course this was all by design. The hiding in plain sight ruling class set out to destroy white culture, and they are largely succeeding.

m of the opinion it's best to dissolve all meaning of family when it comes to these indoctrinated individuals, their personas are extremely narcissistic, self serving, and extremely toxic to anyone with any vestige of family values, they are a fox in a chicken coupe when offered family advantages. It's like having a traitor within. They are dead to me, I offer nothing and expect the same in turn because corruption is the currency they use and the exchange rate is 100% for nothing at best, or 100% for -100%, less than no return.

I'm evolved beyond family, that was deliberately destroyed by the education system and the obscenities they pass off as good, normal, and wholesome, when in fact it's more toxic than arsenic.

Leave them to wander in their indoctrination confusion and don't add to it by offering them family advantages, it'll only confuse them more, at the same time you'll only be sickened by the toxic interaction and constant drain of finite personal resources.

I'm with you 100%. I realised most of my family are stupid, devious and narcissistic. I would not choose to associate with such people, and since they only take and do not add anything to my life, I ghost them. Life is now mostly bliss.

Narcissism is the word of the day.

No-one seems to think of others, it's all about ME!

Not that you should always put others before yourself, but some respect for the needs of others seems to have been lost.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

On Tinder, even a below average woman feels like highly desired prize, because of the all ego-stroking messages she receives.

What she doesn't realize is that the come-ons are coming from 'thirsty' average men and "slumming" top tier men.

She also doesn't realize that men are playing a numbers game, sending out dozens of "lost leader" "free samples" of interest, and even if they are genuinely interest, it is an interest for sex, not commitment.

Tinder, facebook etc. is one of the worst inventions for the average man if they are trying to get even "passable" women. For example, 2's or 3's think they are 6's or 7's because of all the attention they receive from cucks. They then walk around like they are higher on the pecking order and expect you to treat them as such. There is nothing worse than a fatty thinking she's Jennifer Lopez and has "curves" or is "thick".

Places like these sites are the reason that a decent 5 or 6 man (most of us are if we're being objective) get treated like we're invisible in the "United" States. If we lived in South America somewhere, we'd be getting so much attention from attractive women it would be unreal.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

Unless you are near the top of the Dating site food chain, the only way to win that game is not to play. You will not find your AWALT or your unicorn there.

This.

Even the average looking women in the 1st world think they are better looking than they really are. Unless you are trying to scrape the bottom of the barrel of ugly or fat, no self respecting man should bother dating in the modern context. It's about self respect and knowing your worth.

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

Tinder, facebook etc. is one of the worst inventions for the average man..............

If we lived in South America somewhere, we'd be getting so much attention from attractive women it would be unreal.

I disagree. Social media has been a boon to the average man. It did not create hypergamy....it unmasked it.

The unmasking of female nature should be a red pill enema that wakes up even the most unaware man.

They may not have the language or the paradigm to understand what is being done to them, but more and more men are realizing that:

- Where their great grandmothers might have picked a mate from among the 5-10 eligible bachelors in their village, and their grandmothers might have compared potential suitors to Hollywood movie stars, this current crop of carousel riders can choose from millions of men and have them "delivered" faster than a pizza.

- It is one thing to deal with an alpha widow who has actually laid with an actual top 1% in real life, but it is another thing for her to compare you to the imaginary 1% she unrealistically thinks she can get.

"I'll date you, I may even marry you, but just know I'll be comparing you unfavorably to Leonardo DiCaprio the whole time we are together. And by the way, if the hot guy regional vice president wants me to be his side piece, I WILL go with him to that 'convention' in Las Vegas."

- If asking for a date can derail your career, dating an expensive and frustrating experience, and marriage a proposition that,
at best leads to emasculation and an early grave through overwork,
and at worst, divorce, alimony, parental alienation, and imprisonment, why risk it?

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

I disagree. Social media has been a boon to the average man. It did not create hypergamy....it unmasked it.

The unmasking of female nature should be a red pill enema that wakes up even the most unaware man.

They may not have the language or the paradigm to understand what is being done to them, but more and more men are realizing that:

- Where their great grandmothers might have picked a mate from among the 5-10 eligible bachelors in their village, and their grandmothers might have compared potential suitors to Hollywood movie stars, this current crop of carousel riders can choose from millions of men and have them "delivered" faster than a pizza.

- It is one thing to deal with an alpha widow who has actually laid with an actual top 1% in real life, but it is another thing for her to compare you to the imaginary 1% she unrealistically thinks she can get.

"I'll date you, I may even marry you, but just know I'll be comparing you unfavorably to Leonardo DiCaprio the whole time we are together. And by the way, if the hot guy regional vice president wants me to be his side piece, I WILL go with him to that 'convention' in Las Vegas."

- If asking for a date can derail your career, dating an expensive and frustrating experience, and marriage a proposition that,
at best leads to emasculation and an early grave through overwork,
and at worst, divorce, alimony, parental alienation, and imprisonment, why risk it?

You speak the truth - western society NEEDS docile unquestioning simps. Japan is literally full of them. This is the end-game of the west; create a booming economy full up of 100+ hr a week worker drones, who work at minimum wage to increase profits of governments through taxation, until the day they drop dead on the sales room floor. Desent is often met with de-platforming, public media shame, loss of jobs/reputation/resources. No doubt in the near future professional qualifications will be cancelled if you step out of the hivemind.

In all honesty I would be fine with all this if it was fair. How can Feminism say its tolerant by going after men who fat shame women but then bald-shame men in the same article? Why was it that when I created /R FEMINISMEXIT on Reddit they banned it straight away for no reason? You're all being indoctrinated into simphood through conditioning and compliance.

I saw a video where a fat and unattractive woman was filmed sitting in coffee shop, looking at her phone, rejecting dozens of men on Tinder as fast as she can flip her sausage-like finger.

Social media has created millions of alpha widows who have never attracted an alpha in the first place.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

I saw a video where a fat and unattractive woman was filmed sitting in coffee shop, looking at her phone, rejecting dozens of men on Tinder as fast as she can flip her sausage-like finger.

Social media has created millions of alpha widows who have never attracted an alpha in the first place.

I saw a picture of this decent looking fellow who was in shape as well being shackled by this disgusting ham-beast. The double standards are unreal. Men are supposed to bodybuild, have a big cock, make over 100k, and support her. What are her responsibilities? Don't get fat and don't be a cunt. That is STILL a bridge too far for western women. No thanks. I will not play that game.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

I saw a video where a fat and unattractive woman was filmed sitting in coffee shop, looking at her phone, rejecting dozens of men on Tinder as fast as she can flip her sausage-like finger.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

Social media has created millions of alpha widows who have never attracted an alpha in the first place.

This is true. I actually checked out Female Dating Strategy, which is a new reddit group which is identical to the PUA movement (but praised by media) but for women, where they teach each other how to manipulate men into beta slavery. They actually state 'if a guy doesn't pay for 100% of the meal get rid of him''. I did some investigation and found out MOST of them are still single. There is a lot of misandry and you will notice Reddit will never ban it...despite the same level of abuse. The ones who were not single were bitching how their boyfriends were abusing them. I spent a great deal of time trying to prove this theory wrong but literally most are single. Women never learn unfortunately. It makes sense how this would come about since 80% of women chase the top 20% of goodlooking men. I used to think women had high standards, but most of these guys cannot even type a proper sentence.

I am really questioning the United Nations and their depopulation strategies. They do realise that when only good looking idiots mate, we have a world which is not getting smarter, just better looking, less intelligent, and more prone to crime? I believe a lot of these mindsets are partially doctored into women through policies and education, although for sure female nature plays a major part.

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

I saw a picture of this decent looking fellow who was in shape as well being shackled by this disgusting ham-beast. The double standards are unreal. Men are supposed to bodybuild, have a big cock, make over 100k, and support her. What are her responsibilities? Don't get fat and don't be a cunt. That is STILL a bridge too far for western women. No thanks. I will not play that game.

There is a reason for that.

The Powers That Be have made fortunes selling things
to ugly women so they will feel average,
average looking women who want to look attractive,
and attractive women to make them insecure enough to spend their money to keep looking attractive.

Fifty years ago, a man's grooming kit consisted of
- a safety razor, -
- a can of Barbasol shaving cream,
- a bottle of Aqua Velva after shave,
- a comb,
- a nail clipper, and maybe
- a tube of Brill Cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqkGPYqcgc

How would the Powers That Be going to make any money out of such men?
- They were secure in their economic power: A man with a blue collar union job could support a family of 3-4, buy a house, buy a car.
- They were secure in their physicality: A man who drove a tank/tractor/18 wheeler/fork lift didn't worry about carbs or his deltoids.
- They were secure in their attractiveness to the opposite sex.

There was a conscious effort to get men, to spend like women.

The same year the Brylcreem advertisement came out, there was a conscious effort the capitalize on men's new long hair styles:

- The $2.00 haircut was replaced with the $10.00 hairstyling at a unisex salon decorated with ferns, complete with shampoo & blow dry.
(To give you perspective, In the year 1972, the United States minimum wage was $1.60. This is equivalent to $9.78 in 2019 dollars.)

- Men were told to buy blow dryers and hair spray.

- A half dozen inexpensive men's colognes at the local drug store were replaced by "men's fragrances" sections at the posh department store.

- Body building used to be a weird little cult.

The message was clear. Before western civilization peaked, a man had to be a sober, hard working Protector/Provider in order to rate a decent wife.

But many would profit from convincing women they should hold out for a man who had the body of Arnold Schwarzenegger, the persona of Alan Alda on MASH, and the looks of Warren Beatty.

The economic security of the average working man was undermined. Those good union jobs would be sent overseas, replaced with cubicle jobs the men had to compete for with women. If too many intact nuclear families were being created, they would be undermined by convincing women to adopt unrealistic standards. If men were too masculine, making them too independent, especially from Madison Avenue's advertisements, we will make them more feminine, especially in their spending habits.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

There is a reason for that.

The Powers That Be have made fortunes selling things
to ugly women so they will feel average,
average looking women who want to look attractive,
and attractive women to make them insecure enough to spend their money to keep looking attractive.

Fifty years ago, a man's grooming kit consisted of
- a safety razor, -
- a can of Barbasol shaving cream,
- a bottle of Aqua Velva after shave,
- a comb,
- a nail clipper, and maybe
- a tube of Brill Cream https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XbqkGPYqcgc

How would the Powers That Be going to make any money out of such men?
- They were secure in their economic power: A man with a blue collar union job could support a family of 3-4, buy a house, buy a car.
- They were secure in their physicality: A man who drove a tank/tractor/18 wheeler/fork lift didn't worry about carbs or his deltoids.
- They were secure in their attractiveness to the opposite sex.

There was a conscious effort to get men, to spend like women.

The same year the Brylcreem advertisement came out, there was a conscious effort the capitalize on men's new long hair styles:

- The $2.00 haircut was replaced with the $10.00 hairstyling at a unisex salon decorated with ferns, complete with shampoo & blowdry.

- Men were told to buy blow dryers and hair spray.

- A half dozen inexpensive men's colognes at the local drug store were replaced by "men's fragrances" sections at the posh department store.

- Body building used to be a weird little cult.

The message was clear. Before western civilization peaked, a man had to be a sober, hard working Protector/Provider in order to rate a decent wife.

But many would profit from convincing women they should hold out for a man who had the body of Arnold Schwarzenegger, the persona of Alan Alda on MASH, and the looks of Warren Beatty.

The economic security of the average working man was undermined. Those good union jobs would be sent overseas, replaced with cubicle jobs the men had to compete for with women. If too many intact nuclear families were being created, they would be undermined by convincing women to adopt unrealistic standards. If men were too masculine, making them too independent, especially from Madison Avenue's advertisements, we will make them more feminine, especially in their spending habits.

Very good depiction of the past, and the way I remember things too!

I still have bottles of cologne gifts from the 70s! haven't used them since the 70s.

When razors hit $25 dollars a pack, I started using my electric dog groomer then later purchased human grade.

I have a blow drier too! I use it to remove vinyl stickers!

Now my only expense is shampoo and soap, so much for their efforts! I went the wrong way according to them and their consumer driven plans for my future! After Gillette went anti man pro woman pinko bastard, they strengthened the relationship between me and my electric hair trimmer, forever!

Originally Posted by mgtower

I have a blow drier too! I use it to remove vinyl stickers!

When the blow dryer breaks or is not available, put a few ounces of DRY, UNCOOOKED rice in an old sock (cut off the elastic top first) and put it in the microwave for a minute. The rice will get hot, and it will stay warm for a up to a half hour. Its moisture and heat will remove any sticker.

Upscale that idea to make a reusable heating pad for pain relief or keeping food warm.
Use a hand towel, 2lbs or rice, and sew up the rice into the hand towel.

But getting back to main topic of dating sites.

Gentlemen, we are at the receiving end of a massive, coordinated effort to make men "decorative," like women. Consumers, like women, instead of citizens. Concerned about our appearances, like women.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

There is a reason for that.

The Powers That Be have made fortunes selling things
to ugly women so they will feel average,
average looking women who want to look attractive,
and attractive women to make them insecure enough to spend their money to keep looking attractive.

This makes a bit of sense. Advertising is a powerful tool and these ugly women are the perfect ones to pander to. Tell these women that they are "queens" and are "beautiful and any size" and they will buy your products. The sad, side-effect of that is that they are delusional. There are objective beauty standards that span cross-culturally for a very good reason. Beauty shows good genetics fit for breeding.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

- Body building used to be a weird little cult.

Yes I know a bit about this too. My hobby is bodybuilding but I mean it in the strictest sense. That is, using progressive overload to build one's body. I'm not a fan of the whole "manscaping" and "preening yourself like a woman" parts of the pastime that it's morphed into. I don't care for the feminine narcissism that has infiltrated the subculture. When guys are overly worried about what size their biceps are in relation to their calves, they have lost all perspective. When you neglect spending time with family and friends because you may "lose track of your macros", you have mental issues.

Want to go broke?
Market fitness activities (gyms, exercise equipment, cooking healthy food) to women.

Want to make money?
Market exercise clothing to fat women.
Market "beautiful at any size" to women.


Want to go make money?
Market fitness to men: gyms, protein powders, diets.
Constantly raise the bar on what it means to be a "good catch" as a man.


What do dating site and the wedding industries have in common?

Women are very interested in being "brides" and having their "special day." Being a wife....not so much.
Women are all about getting male attention, especially from males with higher status than them.
Being in reciprocal, mutually beneficial relationship...not so much.

Those dudes that get up in the night to eat, spray themselves orange and squeeze their hotdog bodies into tiny fluorescent thongs.. are feckin daft! I agree it's mental issues, comparable to those women who inject their faces and lips full of plastic!

Originally Posted by happybachelor

Those dudes that get up in the night to eat, spray themselves orange and squeeze their hotdog bodies into tiny fluorescent thongs.. are feckin daft! I agree it's mental issues, comparable to those women who inject their faces and lips full of plastic!

This is a reflection of the how the culture has flipped.

In just two generations, women parading around and posing in skimpy outfits to be judged for cash and prices (beauty contests) have been de-legitimized as sexist and misogynist.
In that same time, men parading around posing in even skimpier outfits to be judged for cash and prices have been legitimized and promoted.

Women competing in beauty contests is bad, but women competing in body building contests is good because to win a body building a woman must work very hard to look like a skinny muscle bound man...it is the less feminine they look, the more they are rewarded.

There is nothing less authentic, more triggering of the "uncanny valley" reaction, than a woman who becomes a high level body builder by getting down to 3% body fat, loses her ability to produce eggs, and then tries to regain her femininity by adding bolt-on plastic breasts.

However, in the Powers That Be desire to encourage women's sloth, they convinced women that they will look like such freaks if they so much as do one session of weight lifting. "Oooh, I don't want look like THAT. I better not go to the gym and have some more Hagan Das."