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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Originally Posted by stanmsl
    Just looked and he doesn't say a lot to be honest. Caleb was my introduction to the manosphere, his primary goal is breaking free of the system in both relationships and business. 98% of what he writes I agree with as he is far more rational and level headed than most. I highly recommend his material Blog - Alpha Male 2.0 (calebjones.com)
    rkspsm you should trust your instincts more. This guy falls more into PUA type character. Concerned with being alpha, attracting women, being a better man (we all know what that means).

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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    rkspsm you should trust your instincts more. This guy falls more into PUA type character. Concerned with being alpha, attracting women, being a better man (we all know what that means).

    Intuition is rarely wrong.
    I dont ignore my instincts or intuition. If my instincts or intuition says something is wrong, then before I say anything, I actually look around to see WHY my instincts were telling me this. In this way, not only I understand more of the problem at hand, but I also understand more of myself and improve my instincts.

    EDIT: In my profession though, instincts are often wrong. So maybe I am biased towards not giving them a free pass.
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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    And other than any absence of a detailed analysis, even in that video, I dont remember him even casually listing any bad things Bill Gates has done or might have done. That means its not just an opinion, its a very biased opinion.
    Good point, but the core purpose of the video was analysis of his divorce not the pros and cons of his other life choices.
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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    Good point, but the core purpose of the video was analysis of his divorce not the pros and cons of his other life choices.
    Yes, but he did spent good 3-4 minutes on the goodness of Bill Gates in a 20 minute video, which seems kindda irrelevant considering most of his analysis involved the interactions between a billionaire beta male (but not a complete pushover) vs a corporate woman, unless it was to show that Bill Gates is the victim here just like in any usual no fault divorce by modern women.

    But this makes the video kindda pointless in a way (just this video, not his blog or anything). Because, as per my analysis, he has failed to properly analyze Bill Gates' coordinates on the morality spectrum, which means he has failed to change my existing conclusion (Bill Gates did WAY more bad than good), which means its the case of bad people fighting each other and its popcorn time.

    Why do I have the conclusion (and not belief or feeling) that Bill Gates is the evil oligarch as most people think he is ? I can list a long list of reasons with their analysis, many of which may be quite problematic to discuss here and is not really the point of this criticism, which is about Caleb's video.

    My point is, regardless of what is the morality of Bill Gates is, this small part of video, is exactly why I'd rather get my information from a DEBATE, than a blog or a video. That being said, I also do realize that its not possible to have debate most of the time because debate requires you completely abandon your feelings, and not everyone can consistently do that. Bringing feelings into one is essentially asking the game to be rigged, modifying the rules, eventually boiling down to one "believing" X and other believing Y, with no conclusion ever reached based on logical/rational merit of the arguments.
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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    "Bill Gates" a a brand is radioactive so they will transfer surface level operation control of the "foundation" to HER to divert attention. Also it is tactic used by mafia bosses to transfer wealth and assets to wives if they are in trouble with law enforcement.

    It is harder to openly talk against her because of mainstream media is gynocentric. They know the game very well but their tricks don't fool anyone anymore.

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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Bill and Malinda Gates, time machine set to 1855.

    Malinda gets noting but the cloths on her back and a train ticket back to her home town, while Bill gets everything he earned.

    And they wonder why there's a divorce epidemic? Is that because it's financially profitable to indulge in someone else's fruits of their labor?

    All a woman's true worth as a housewife is no more than a maid's or nanny's, If I were the judge that's the most a woman gets! And that's being generous, I'm not giving her financial demerits for the anger and aggravation she created!
    It's almost over...

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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Why do I have the conclusion (and not belief or feeling) that Bill Gates is the evil oligarch as most people think he is ? I can list a long list of reasons with their analysis, many of which may be quite problematic to discuss here and is not really the point of this criticism, which is about Caleb's video.
    There was a near 100% probability that this would come up in this thread, currently writing a blog post on the subject some of which I will share here when finished.

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    I'd rather get my information from a DEBATE, than a blog or a video. That being said, I also do realize that its not possible to have debate most of the time because debate requires you completely abandon your feelings, and not everyone can consistently do that. Bringing feelings into one is essentially asking the game to be rigged, modifying the rules, eventually boiling down to one "believing" X and other believing Y, with no conclusion ever reached based on logical/rational merit of the arguments.
    Debates can easily be "won" by the most skilled debater, not the one who's telling the truth. It's possible for an unprepared person to lose a debate to someone from the flat earth society.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: Bill gates divorce

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    He allegedly created the biggest OS in the world. One look at him tells me yeah right.. look at software genius types, he is nothing like them.
    Some historical rumours for you.

    I was involved in learning about I.T. long before Windows was even a thing.

    Long before GUI’s (like Windows) it was rumoured, and I emphasise rumoured, that Bill Gates was involved in the development of a command line operating system called CP/M. He took this knowledge and developed his own version called P.C. DOS which he developed for use on IBM machines.

    Other manufacturers began making P.C.s, but they couldn’t run P.C. DOS for contractual reasons, so he tweaked it and called it M.S. DOS – the beginning of the MicroSoft empire.

    The first GUI I remember was a thing called GEM, based on the CP/M platform, and it was a wholly new concept in home / small business computing. It was basic, certainly by today’s standards, but it sure as hell made life easier.

    Seeing this, Gates eventually produced his competitor and so Windows was born which ran on his P.C. DOS / M.S. DOS platforms.

    And so there was competition along the lines of V.H.S. and Betamax in video tapes. Betamax was arguably far superior, but V.H.S. won out in the end, presumably because of production costs.

    Similarly, P.C. DOS (and therefore M.S. DOS and then Windows) won out because of its connection with Big Blue (IBM). The rest is history.

    I really don’t know that much about the guy (obviously) but I have a theory (not in the scientific sense):

    Time and again I see people making their fortunes – far more than they could ever spend in their lifetimes, and time and again after doing so they turn to altruism.

    My thought: In order to make their fortunes they’ve been total cunts and they’re trying to buy back their souls.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin


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