Thread: AVfM extends the olive branch. AGain.

Oh, how nice.

Author’s note: I am as relieved as anyone that the supersized kerfuffle between AVFM and some elements of the MGTOW community has at least for the time being lost its intensity. That being said, this writing is in no way intended as an insulting shot at the MGTOW community, even the fringe elements of that community which I would term as extremely ideological. That intention will be evident in the text that follows. That said, I will not respond to anyone who plays victim to this article by mischaracterizing it as an attack. PE

http://www.avoiceformen.com/a-voice-...rong-part-one/

I would like to post further on this, but I am currently considering a reply to a dude on advicenators who writes:

Dear Advicenators:
My ex-wife/gf/de-facto who stabbed me in the gut multiple times on two or three occasions and left me has come back and is urging me to let bygones be bygones. Do you think it will be ok this time?
~ThickAsTwoShortPlanks

I'd consider responding, but I've been banned by Suz for having thoughts of my own.

As long as AVFM is controlled, edited, moderated and ultimately has all speech censured by women, There is absolutely NOTHING of any value that they can offer to men. Give me a call when the men folk start running things again.

The world according to Paul and Dean; meh.

Reverse malE showed me his poor character when he attacked me on his own message boards. I was done with him then, and I still am.

Read between the lines. Better yet, this is the point being made:
From the verbal diarrhea of the "article"

This is a point, by the way, that has genuine merit, save the fact that the idea that this differentiates MGTOW from MRHM is ill-informed.

In the mainstream feminist sources, many men differentiate between MRA and men choosing to live their lives as they choose (MGTOW) (in the comments sections/responses). Feminist articles regularly dump all men (PUA, MRA's of various stripes, MGTOW, and others) into the same critical group and then trash them all under one label.

Reverse malE, being the good tool he is, has just written a supporting article for the position feminists have taken in their writing.

Yet another Reverse malE FAIL.

Paul has proven himself to be a snake. He trashes the MGTOW community, then claims that AVfM should be MGTOW central (IE goto place to learn about going your own way) when it is clearly influenced by women (particularly tradcon women) and their desires, and then shits on MGTOWs again. Now the fucker wants to extend the olive branch. I believe there is another reason:

MGTOW is now gaining traction and people are no longer giving a shit about MRAs. We already knew the victimhood card wont work in favor of men and as expected that strategy has failed. Now the MRAs are a laughing stock and hence no longer relevant. In fact they literally have no allies or support. However mgtow OTOH is gaining in significance as more and more men see the appeal in giving no fucks about society or twats. More and more are seeing that it isn't just feminism but rather women are the problem in general and that withdrawing their participation in society and minimizing what they give to society while living to the fullest, is having a greater impact on society and shaking it to its core better than the MRM could ever hope. Paul now wants to cash in on this new trend and perhaps even want to co-opt us. Hmm...MSM and blue-pill world is shaming us, PUAs are shaming us, MRAs initially shamed us but now wants to offer the olive branch. We must be doing something right.

DO NOT fall for this false offer of peace and cooperation. Just another siren call to drag us back to the plantation.

Whatever happened to the so-called MGTOW Central?

Originally Posted by cyberdude

Whatever happened to the so-called MGTOW Central?

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Must be a gaping hole in the interwebs.

I hate you. I love you. I hate you. I love you.

When a person does this, they call it crazy. AVFM does it and they consider it market strategy.

The tradcon females there must really be getting scared.
There'd be no olive branches otherwise.

Seems to me this branch is being extended simply because growing numbers of men, both young and old, are growing tired of the fight and are going their own way, so to try and pull them back into the fold you need to bring in those that are providing the defectors a place to vent and for support. The ladies running the show over there keep talking about how the passive and informative approach works so well, yet what do we see.. well we see an increase in anti male legislation and rhetoric as well as an increase in pandering to women that not only endangers the lives of the women they pander to but to the public in general.

I say they can get bent, seems to me the best way to solve a systemic problem is to stop supporting the system, an unsupported system will collapse end of story.

I've rarely read anything on AVFM, and I had no idea that there's a female on the staff now. As Ike pointed out, that's the end of the argument. To me, MRAs are just wasting their energy - it's like hardcore internet atheists arguing day and night, trying to convince believers that they're superior, or vice versa. The elites want to maintain feminism at all costs, and I don't believe it would even help men if MRAs achieved legal change anyway. Feminists have got the overwhelming funding and support - it's pointless. To retain any chance of happiness, you just can't be an MRA. It will make you miserable because your entire identity will be based in fighting an impossible battle. As others have pointed out, the real problem is the ridiculous behavior of women. Even if the laws completely protected you, why the fuck would you still want to get married? It's just unneeded, arbitrary stress that men today simply do not need to be involved with period.

$$$$ its alll those guys and girls over there care about.

Fuck AVFM and fuck their olive branches.

Their attitude is that of a passive aggressive cunt who views other people as tools for website clicks and money. In other words, AVFM, a site supposedly for men, embodies the worst of female nature.

Fuck it, even Return of Kings which is not exactly a nice site is far more pro-male than AVFM is. They still have their female pandering because of their nature as PUAs but they don't treat other men in a passive-aggressive manner.

The MGTOWs have gone their own way, away from AVFM's way. This olive branch of their will be treated with the same level of indifference, contempt and condescension as the olive branches that would be extended by anyone else be it traditional conservatives or feminists or greater society in general.

To quote Rorschach:- "Never compromise, even in the face of Armageddon.", which when modified slightly, read as :- "Never accept olive branches, even from the MRAs."