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    Re: Artificial Wombs News

    In my case, I like diversification. The more good options and ideas, the better. So all those techs could be options if they are favorable for Mgtows. Even if most of these future techs fail, I would like to test how they work in our real world.

    But above it all, I actually think that we must enjoy our lives with what we have in our present moment. I would like to work to develop those new techs, but I know that it is not easy and maybe they will be ready only in a distant future. So I can just enjoy my present life and wait for the future. We will see.

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    Part of this scamedmic is the creation of modified\altered humans. Eugenics.

    So if you have a human soul then you would necessarily be a 'luddite'.

    Any other thinking and you are basically already an automaton. Maybe not with anything implanted in you yet, but on a psychological level - absolutely. You've been programmed to accept and even welcome the 'inevitability' of transhumanism. All stemming from the idea that we are fundamentally 'wrong' - a false idea they programmed YOU with.

    You are the victim and you don't even know it. The perfect victim.
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    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Part of this scamedmic is the creation of modified\altered humans. Eugenics.

    So if you have a human soul then you would necessarily be a 'luddite'.

    Any other thinking and you are basically already an automaton. Maybe not with anything implanted in you yet, but on a psychological level - absolutely. You've been programmed to accept and even welcome the 'inevitability' of transhumanism. All stemming from the idea that we are fundamentally 'wrong' - a false idea they programmed YOU with.

    You are the victim and you don't even know it. The perfect victim.
    Glad you brought it up !! I suspected this is the case (eugenics) from the beginning. But I go one step furthur. Development of any tech basically, atleastt after some basic threshold, is indirect eugenics. What is the point of heavy automation anyways ? So that the "lesser" humans, that is humans who do manual mundane jobs, are not needed. Why would you prefer a machine over humans ? Because, assuming machine gets the job done better than humans, its more reliable and consistent. And what happens to those humans who are "displaced" by the machines ? They dont get paid, and in extreme case, forced to fight for food, or ... die.

    So if I support the development of machines, am I a perpetrator ? Maybe.

    But on the other hand I am instinctively compelled to design, develop and build machines, just like humans are instinctively compelled to find love and reproduce. No the compulsion is not to destroy the way of life of other humans, but just to build bigger and smarter machines. But just because I want one thing and not the other, doesnt mean that the latter will not happen if its a consequence of the former.

    This is why I tell the people, never rely on the fact that small amount of resistance and persuasion will stop or discourage the scientists from doing what they are doing, in any field of science, be it software or hardware or "bio-hardware". I understand their instinct because I have it too. And I tell you, its extremely strong, and it exceeds any love whatsoever for family, friends or fellow humans in general...

    The best solution, in the long run I can think of, assuming no side is able to simply eliminate the other, is to reach an isolation compromise. The scientists develop whatever they want, and when they develop space tech, they can just fly away to another planet or something. Sounds very far fetched and fantasy, because it is. Reality is messy, and its only just started...
    Greedy algorithms always get stuck in a local extrema...

    If you cannot determine global extrema... or if the graph (or space) is infinite, genetic algorithms give better results.

    The function space or hypothesis space is not only infinite, but in most cases, have infinite dimensions.

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    Re: Artificial Wombs News

    But on the other hand I am instinctively compelled to design, develop and build machines, just like humans are instinctively compelled to find love and reproduce. No the compulsion is not to destroy the way of life of other humans, but just to build bigger and smarter machines. But just because I want one thing and not the other, doesnt mean that the latter will not happen if its a consequence of the former.
    Recognise this is really just a manifestation of your mind type - systematising / building / improving. It doesn't have to be machines per se, but that interests you and brings you some comfort both in terms of producing/contributing, feeling good and also a means of supporting oneself. This has been the course your life has took and on some level was a voluntary choice. 'Instinctively compelled' to design programs or whatever, is something that happened due to choices, it didn't come with you as a newborn baby. Some autists find peace/security in such activities. Sometimes it's compulsive which is not necessarily healthy.
    These things can be worked on which is to say changed somewhat, although of course harder to break old patterns the older we get.
    Ultimately this type of mind can be used for good. I think Nikola Tesla had good intention for his inventions. Then again he seemed like a pure genius who was clearly tapped into the future/universal consciousness, simply bringing future tech to the world as he could already see it.
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    Re: Artificial Wombs News

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post

    These things can be worked on which is to say changed somewhat, although of course harder to break old patterns the older we get.
    I did changed myself a lot. These days, most of my time is spent doing art, and I utilize my compulsion to systemic thinking in figuring out techniques for painting things. Eg today I was doing this (done from reference) :




    But not every nerd scientist, working in an underground biolab is willing to change. In fact he/she might find it a pleasing experiment to see how humanity struggles under impending threat of artificial creatures/cyborgs/genetic-mutants. The problem is, many of these nerds are highly neurotic. I fortunately, have very low neuroticism. Neuroticism, atleast the meaning I am using, is the measure of how much the fear and uncertainty of future affects your actions.

    The uncertainty and fear arises ESPECIALLY from the people who are not like us, that is, normal people. Normal people are not systematizing, they are erratic, and can sometimes be annoying. And because I am low neurotic, I am okay with being around them as long as I get my personal space (say a private room), and they dont try to harm me in anyway. But this is not true for many nerds, and this is why they behave weird. It can manifest itself as trying "too hard" to appear normal (as opposed to me being me, others can take it or leave it, lol). Or it can manifest itself as extreme depression or something of that sort.

    And this is where, the elites/globalists/(them) come into the play. If they find such a nerd, who is afraid, high on neuroticism, etc, and give them what they want the most : a personal space, maybe an underground lab, along with all the best toys to play with, and in many cases status in the form of degrees and ranks and all that jazz. So the nerd feels comfortable, he is no longer a nobody everyone laughing at, he is now "someone important". So psychologically he (or she) is in debt of (them). (They) gave him what normal people didnt, so why should he/she worry about people ?!

    This is the reason I wrote about my instincts, as kind of warning. A warning that, dont think, even for a single minute, that these scientists can be coaxed by appealing to "humanity" in their heart. There is none, dont bother, it will be a monumental waste of time. The humans are mere cockroaches in front of them. Have you ever cared for a cockroach or mosquito or a fly appealing to your sense of pity on them before you spray them or kill them ?? No, its not happening.

    The best that can be done, is to prepare for some global bio-catastrophe, that may actually happen, considering the things that are being researched and at the pace its happening.
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    Wow, that's really good man. I wish I could paint like that.

    Really great post. I agree we can't appeal to those 'scientists'. I can however affect ordinary people who are being led by (them).
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    Re: Artificial Wombs News

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Wow, that's really good man. I wish I could paint like that.

    Really great post. I agree we can't appeal to those 'scientists'. I can however affect ordinary people who are being led by (them).
    I can paint too!

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    Re: Artificial Wombs News

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Should've stayed away from them Fauci jabs...
    Greedy algorithms always get stuck in a local extrema...

    If you cannot determine global extrema... or if the graph (or space) is infinite, genetic algorithms give better results.

    The function space or hypothesis space is not only infinite, but in most cases, have infinite dimensions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Should've stayed away from them Fauci jabs...
    Jabs are something you do in a fight, I haven't had to fight them off yet, when I do I'll make sure I jab them first! The best defense is a blitzkrieg offence! I'll jab them full of holes until the insides stop leaking out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Jabs are something you do in a fight, I haven't had to fight them off yet, when I do I'll make sure I jab them first! The best defense is a blitzkrieg offence! I'll jab them full of holes until the insides stop leaking out!
    Not you, the "creature" in the painting !!
    Greedy algorithms always get stuck in a local extrema...

    If you cannot determine global extrema... or if the graph (or space) is infinite, genetic algorithms give better results.

    The function space or hypothesis space is not only infinite, but in most cases, have infinite dimensions.

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    I am happy if I can find a legal source for surrogacy for men.

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    Re: Artificial Wombs News

    I am a bit on the edge about artificial wombs or partner-robots.

    First of all, what problem are they even supposed to solve? I don't see how they solve anything. Sexrobots are just a more advanced cope than prostitutes, body pillows or sexdolls, probably in some smart form that ensures that you are being monitored at all times. Artificial wombs or the ability to create babies out of skin cells don't really add much to anything. Homosexuals could clone themselves by making both an egg and a sperm cell out of their own DNA, which could theoretically be used to genocide one sex entirely or allow infertile people to produce children. More generally speaking, it could revolutionize domestication of non-human animals by having otherwise infertile hybrid animals like Mules or what not produce offspring that wouldn't otherwise be possible. Doesn't exactly help you, only helps whoever already makes profit off of those kinds of industries.

    Secondly, the assumption seems to be that this technology will be commercially available for regular people. Why would the government hand this technology over to regular citizens, unless it can bind said technology to the slavery again, similar to how women are already bound to it?


    The only really relevant technology that could solve the woman problem or more generally the problem of the sexes is modification of the biology. And how the government would weaponize that against either or most likely both sexes leaves a lot of room open to let imagination run wild.


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