Thread: Any Monk?

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Brother you're talking all wise and stuff. Most pussy isn't worth the price of a date and none of it will do anything for your life overall. I've considered banging this older woman in her 40s (texted for a week...will see if she puts out 1st or 2nd day then I'm done) and get this...she wants to go to a barber shop with me on the 2nd day of our "date" to get my beard trimmed. WTF. The beard will not be trimmed and she will never see me again after day 2...possibly after day 1 if there's any talk indicating no pussy.

“I've considered banging this older woman in her 40s (texted for a week...will see if she puts out 1st or 2nd day then I'm done) and get this...she wants to go to a barber shop with me on the 2nd day of our "date" to get my beard trimmed. WTF. The beard will not be trimmed and she will never see me again after day 2...possibly after day 1 if there's any talk indicating no pussy.”

THIS^^^

Hence, my usage of paid, public toilet!

To each their own, no judgement here.

Cheers Edward!!

Originally Posted by DogEatDog

I had to read the barbershop part like 3 times lol she can't be serious. Brother if I was you I'd abort that mission cause she doesn't even sound like she's in her right mind.

Brother I almost thought it was aborted today since she didn't text me until 7pm (I always make her initiate since I don't really care). The only thing keeping me hanging a little is that she's a vegetarian (don't remember having one of those), short hair blonde/very slim/has small tits (I'm a sicko I know) and she hasn't explicitly told me we were having sex aside from talk about wishing we were cuddling (thrill of unknown I guess). She is a typical woman and crazy, but she's over an hour away and doesn't know where I live. Not sure I'll go or not.

My drive for sex isn't quite what it used to be, but that has made me adopt a "don't give a shit attitude" when it comes to pursuing sex. Hell, sometimes I won't even bust a nut. The last woman I made up all kinds of lies just to see what it would take for her not to have sex with me lol (including saying I had a 1.5 inch hard penis that didn't get hard half the time LOL). I'm also someone that likes the high levels of danger/thrill but that can lead to bad things when mixed with sex...sometimes huge regret right after and anxiety for weeks. Damn being retired relatively young...I need more hobbies.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Brother I almost thought it was aborted today since she didn't text me until 7pm (I always make her initiate since I don't really care). The only thing keeping me hanging a little is that she's a vegetarian (don't remember having one of those), short hair blonde/very slim/has small tits (I'm a sicko I know) and she hasn't explicitly told me we were having sex aside from talk about wishing we were cuddling (thrill of unknown I guess). She is a typical woman and crazy, but she's over an hour away and doesn't know where I live. Not sure I'll go or not.

My drive for sex isn't quite what it used to be, but that has made me adopt a "don't give a shit attitude" when it comes to pursuing sex. Hell, sometimes I won't even bust a nut. The last woman I made up all kinds of lies just to see what it would take for her not to have sex with me lol (including saying I had a 1.5 inch hard penis that didn't get hard half the time LOL). I'm also someone that likes the high levels of danger/thrill but that can lead to bad things when mixed with sex...sometimes huge regret right after and anxiety for weeks. Damn being retired relatively young...I need more hobbies.

“Damn being retired relatively young...I need more hobbies.”

I agree it has its own challenges. BUT….

You do know people would KILL to be in our position, don’t you?

Originally Posted by WanderLuster

“Damn being retired relatively young...I need more hobbies.”

I agree it has its own challenges. BUT….

You do know people would KILL to be in our position, don’t you?

Man I JUST told someone that yesterday and actually really believed it for one of the first times as the words were coming out of my mouth. Funny that about 6 hours later you reiterate it for me. I've taken a lot for granted over these years I've been able to leisurely stroll through life and it's time to see things for how great they really are.

Sometimes you get used to something and your frame of reference gets all out of whack. My biggest worry in the last 6 months has been do I wake up earlier in the day to work out/pursue pussy when I want it or do I just sleep all day. That would actually be kinda embarrassing to admit to someone in person, but damn...how many men now and over course of history would like you say kill to be in our position? Maybe 99%? Probably even most that are better looking or way more talented that ended up getting married. Sure a man could be married and cheat once in a while but that often ends up being way more hassle than it's worth.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Man I JUST told someone that yesterday and actually really believed it for one of the first times as the words were coming out of my mouth. Funny that about 6 hours later you reiterate it for me. I've taken a lot for granted over these years I've been able to leisurely stroll through life and it's time to see things for how great they really are.

Sometimes you get used to something and your frame of reference gets all out of whack. My biggest worry in the last 6 months has been do I wake up earlier in the day to work out/pursue pussy when I want it or do I just sleep all day. That would actually be kinda embarrassing to admit to someone in person, but damn...how many men now and over course of history would like you say kill to be in our position? Maybe 99%? Probably even most that are better looking or way more talented that ended up getting married. Sure a man could be married and cheat once in a while but that often ends up being way more hassle than it's worth.

We need to be extremely careful too. The moment I wear ANY shirt, ‘Bull’s Eye’ gets written all over it! And it happens EVERYDAY! No matter what kind of TRASH that shirt is!

I've been monk since 2016, mostly for reasons already mentioned here by others. I don't need to invite trouble of a completely avoidable sort into my life. Peace is more valuable than chasing tail.

I've been this way about a decade now - it's not even about the legal risks, or all the hoops to jump through just to get in the bed, it's not worth the trouble fair enough.
But what if you remove the difficulties and legal troubles, the end goal in a relationship would be to have children and I certainly wouldn't want them to suffer growing up in this society, inflation and cost of living is bad enough - actual political rot & backwards bullshit of feelings over facts is just appalling.

If you go a step further than just avoiding it for a peaceful life, what if you could have a perfect relationship and all the tail you need. Next step would be children, do want them to grow up and feed the dumpster fire of the current society?
Gonna be a big no, would reject the perfect unicorn as the end goal of the children would end up having an even worse life than I've had, which really ain't that bad. Says alot about society.

I'm not a monk.
I have sex with women infrequently, last being about a year ago because my standards are very high and I have an image to maintain but I still do.
That is the only thing I need them for. They stay at arm's length. Nobody even gets to know where I live/work.
I told the last woman who wanted something more with me that she had nothing else I wanted. She accepted it because she had no other choice and appealing to my emotions wouldn't have worked. It's part of the game at this point. They have to present their sexuality upfront to me otherwise I'd never be interested (making me wait is a no; you only get one chance with me) but once they do that it's pretty much over because they realize there's no depth afterward. I already got what I wanted.

(I understand the risks of being involved with women and I'd just like to point out that I don't live in the same countries that you do so the rules are quite different for me.)

@WanderLuster, @Edwardhaskell: congrats on escaping the rat-race so early in life!

<Preacher cap on>

But be careful brothers - "idle hands are the devil's workshop"... Not in a real sense (the devil is just a religious fairy tale, meant to keep believers in check) - but in the sense that you guys are exposed to temptations the rest of us are not.

Your lifestyle affords you the freedom to... become slaves to the worst possible masters.

Most of us can't spend the rest of our lives in an infinite loop of whores and drugs.
But the fact that you guys can, doesn't mean you should - in the sense that, IMHO anyway, it won't make you happy.

In a sense I fear for you guys more than for an average MGTOW.

The "do I just sleep all day" question is a blinking-red "danger, Will Robinson" indicator...

If you can accept some unsolicited advice from an old guy: the two things I found gave my life the most meaning, were:

- improving yourself in things that only you know, deep inside, you are underdeveloped in; things you can do better, and don't because you suck.
- and helping people that deserve to be helped - and seeing their gratitude.

To be clear: I obviously don't mean helping the useless females we are drowning in, by enslaving yourself to one. Fuck no. I mean helping decent fellow human beings: poor students that get great marks, want to learn more, but are barely making ends meet; orphans that get no help from anyone in this fucked-up planet; starving children in third-world hellscapes; etc.

Will you feel happy at the end of your life, looking at yourself in the mirror, knowing the only thing you did for 40 years is bang prostitutes and escape into the void of drugs?
Or will you feel better if you interacted with, and actually helped, a bunch of poor kids get a good job, a life?

I could be wrong, of course. But in my life, nothing gave me more satisfaction than hearing back from people I helped - and learning how I impacted their lives.
No drug highs, no Holy Vaginas, nothing could ever even possibly begin to compete with how that feels.

<Preacher cap off>

Signing off, end_of_days; Atheist Monk for the last 30 years.

Originally Posted by end_of_days

@WanderLuster, @Edwardhaskell: congrats on escaping the rat-race so early in life!

<Preacher cap on>

But be careful brothers - "idle hands are the devil's workshop"... Not in a real sense (the devil is just a religious fairy tale, meant to keep believers in check) - but in the sense that you guys are exposed to temptations the rest of us are not.

Your lifestyle affords you the freedom to... become slaves to the worst possible masters.

Most of us can't spend the rest of our lives in an infinite loop of whores and drugs.
But the fact that you guys can, doesn't mean you should - in the sense that, IMHO anyway, it won't make you happy.

In a sense I fear for you guys more than for an average MGTOW.

The "do I just sleep all day" question is a blinking-red "danger, Will Robinson" indicator...

If you can accept some unsolicited advice from an old guy: the two things I found gave my life the most meaning, were:

- improving yourself in things that only you know, deep inside, you are underdeveloped in; things you can do better, and don't because you suck.
- and helping people that deserve to be helped - and seeing their gratitude.

To be clear: I obviously don't mean helping the useless females we are drowning in, by enslaving yourself to one. Fuck no. I mean helping decent fellow human beings: poor students that get great marks, want to learn more, but are barely making ends meet; orphans that get no help from anyone in this fucked-up planet; starving children in third-world hellscapes; etc.

Will you feel happy at the end of your life, looking at yourself in the mirror, knowing the only thing you did for 40 years is bang prostitutes and escape into the void of drugs?
Or will you feel better if you interacted with, and actually helped, a bunch of poor kids get a good job, a life?

I could be wrong, of course. But in my life, nothing gave me more satisfaction than hearing back from people I helped - and learning how I impacted their lives.
No drug highs, no Holy Vaginas, nothing could ever even possibly begin to compete with how that feels.

<Preacher cap off>

Signing off, end_of_days; Atheist Monk for the last 30 years.

As Roger Waters once aptly put:

DRUM ROLL:

We don’t need no education!
We don’t need no thought control!
No dark sarcasm in the classroom!
Teacher, leave those kids alone!
Hey teachers, leave those kids alone!



In all seriousness, thanks a lot end_of_days! If you see my previous post, you’ll find that I was also talking about being careful with our lives. Not just because bulls eye is written all over us for all the cunts to see. The fact that the biggest of dangers comes from ‘within’ often helps me keep my feet on the ground.

I do help out other creatures from time to time, in my own creative ways. It may sometimes be invisible to others, however! I don’t really give a flying fuck about it tho.

Whoring is my hobby, so is sipping on some good whiskey every night. I just want to enjoy both for as long as I can. Never needed hard drugs as alcohol has always been my choice of poison.

“I could be wrong, of course. But in my life, nothing gave me more satisfaction than hearing back from people I helped - and learning how I impacted their lives.”

Where I live, 3 male youngsters (aged 12 to 28) look at me as their role model, even tho I’ve told them countless times to not do that. We will see where their lives take them, but I secretly take pleasure knowing the fact that I’m inadvertently impacting some lives in some ways - positive or negative, time will tell!

Thanks again,
Cheers from the East!

Monk since 2019. Never looking back. I live a full and satisfying life and I will never give it up again.

Proudly celibate for 12 years now. I no longer look for sex either actively or passively. Also, when sex is hinted at or out right offered, I don't even have to think about saying no. It's second nature to me now. The wretched behavior, horror, insanity, and mindless tumult which follow women as night follows day keep me happily going my own way. Every day, the words and actions of women remind me of why I'm going my own way and reinforce my determination to keep going my own way.

For myself, "friar" is a more accurate label than "monk". Both are celibate, but friars are not cloistered. I'm no longer interested in sex, romance or even casual relationships with women but I still have a social life. I travel, attend concerts and the theater, play sports, dine out, and participate in other activities. I do all those things for my reasons alone, when and where I choose to do so. I do not do all those things because I'm looking for women or at the behest of a woman. Like a friar who maintains his vows while living and working in the community, I work in and move through society while maintaining my MGTOW principles. You can see how this is unlike a monk who maintains his vows while cloistered away from society with relatively few like minded men.

Originally Posted by Prokopton2

For myself, "friar" is a more accurate label than "monk". Both are celibate, but friars are not cloistered. I'm no longer interested in sex, romance or even casual relationships with women but I still have a social life. I travel, attend concerts and the theater, play sports, dine out, and participate in other activities. I do all those things for my reasons alone, when and where I choose to do so. I do not do all those things because I'm looking for women or at the behest of a woman. Like a friar who maintains his vows while living and working in the community, I work in and move through society while maintaining my MGTOW principles. You can see how this is unlike a monk who maintains his vows while cloistered away from society with relatively few like minded men.

I guess I can be described the exact same way. Not anti-social by any means, but the added stress and burden of chasing a woman and keeping her happy is gone forever.

Originally Posted by Prokopton2

Proudly celibate for 12 years now. I no longer look for sex either actively or passively. Also, when sex is hinted at or out right offered, I don't even have to think about saying no. It's second nature to me now. The wretched behavior, horror, insanity, and mindless tumult which follow women as night follows day keep me happily going my own way. Every day, the words and actions of women remind me of why I'm going my own way and reinforce my determination to keep going my own way.

For myself, "friar" is a more accurate label than "monk". Both are celibate, but friars are not cloistered. I'm no longer interested in sex, romance or even casual relationships with women but I still have a social life. I travel, attend concerts and the theater, play sports, dine out, and participate in other activities. I do all those things for my reasons alone, when and where I choose to do so. I do not do all those things because I'm looking for women or at the behest of a woman. Like a friar who maintains his vows while living and working in the community, I work in and move through society while maintaining my MGTOW principles. You can see how this is unlike a monk who maintains his vows while cloistered away from society with relatively few like minded men.

MGTOW Friar?

I like it. Unfortunately if we were to adopt it, it would encourage trolls claiming to be MGTOW Fryers.

Originally Posted by end_of_days

@WanderLuster, @Edwardhaskell: congrats on escaping the rat-race so early in life!

<Preacher cap on>

But be careful brothers - "idle hands are the devil's workshop"... Not in a real sense (the devil is just a religious fairy tale, meant to keep believers in check) - but in the sense that you guys are exposed to temptations the rest of us are not.

Your lifestyle affords you the freedom to... become slaves to the worst possible masters.

Most of us can't spend the rest of our lives in an infinite loop of whores and drugs.
But the fact that you guys can, doesn't mean you should - in the sense that, IMHO anyway, it won't make you happy.

In a sense I fear for you guys more than for an average MGTOW.

The "do I just sleep all day" question is a blinking-red "danger, Will Robinson" indicator...

If you can accept some unsolicited advice from an old guy: the two things I found gave my life the most meaning, were:

- improving yourself in things that only you know, deep inside, you are underdeveloped in; things you can do better, and don't because you suck.
- and helping people that deserve to be helped - and seeing their gratitude.

To be clear: I obviously don't mean helping the useless females we are drowning in, by enslaving yourself to one. Fuck no. I mean helping decent fellow human beings: poor students that get great marks, want to learn more, but are barely making ends meet; orphans that get no help from anyone in this fucked-up planet; starving children in third-world hellscapes; etc.

Will you feel happy at the end of your life, looking at yourself in the mirror, knowing the only thing you did for 40 years is bang prostitutes and escape into the void of drugs?
Or will you feel better if you interacted with, and actually helped, a bunch of poor kids get a good job, a life?

I could be wrong, of course. But in my life, nothing gave me more satisfaction than hearing back from people I helped - and learning how I impacted their lives.
No drug highs, no Holy Vaginas, nothing could ever even possibly begin to compete with how that feels.

<Preacher cap off>

Signing off, end_of_days; Atheist Monk for the last 30 years.

I ain't an atheist but very wise words...read them all and will probably come back to read again. Thank you.

I've been monk since 9 years ago, since the last time I have had sex, with a fatty, and I never want to do it again, with an unattractive woman.

But prior to being monk, I probably have been mgtow longer than that. While I have been conservative and single for all my life, I haven't been red pilled heavily until around 2014-2017. Then in 2017, I got into Mgtow.

Since 2017, I have been monk, and happy with it.

Too many simps women and especially red pillers and conservatives say, "you'll die alone". I called it bullshit. Everyone will die alone.

I've been conservative for as long as I can remember. One thing you'll never call me is "Cuckservative". I hate that kind of conservative.

I rather be single, mgtow monk right winger, than be whatever simps and women want you to be.

Nick Tesla is a monk. I don't know much about him, but I do know he died single, without baggage.


So I'm just gonna go my way, and make friends with like-minded men, and build my careers and goals, and make it how I want it to be.

I'm in my mid-thirties and the slightly lower sex drive is already a massive relief. Life opens up when an evening with friends, a juicy steak or a cool tech gadget holds more interest than a leaky birth canal attached to a narcissist.

Originally Posted by I'm Gone

I'm in my mid-thirties and the slightly lower sex drive is already a massive relief. Life opens up when an evening with friends, a juicy steak or a cool tech gadget holds more interest than a leaky birth canal attached to a narcissist.

What I don't get is my sex drive hasn't changed in my entire life. Sometimes I'll still spend all day being solo-romantic.

That having been said, I just burned out on women. I guess my "pair bonding" is broken.