Thread: After going MGTOW

I went MGTOW several years ago - I have dated since, just so I can feel secure in my heart knowing that I didn't miss out on any "unicorn". Of course, dating with a MGTOW-lens on just re-enforced MGTOW principles - you know, the basic premises of MGTOW: "AWALT", women are on the "carousel", and of course, one of my favourites: "the wall". I thought I'd share this with you, so you know you're not missing out if you get an urge to dip your toes in the water:

Dating with MGTOW glasses on confirmed the following:

1) 6-7 of the women I dated were only interested in money and Chad - in that order
2) I found myself dating carbon copies - proving AWALT over and over. So many women "joked" about me being their sugar daddy; I jokingly said "sure I will!" to one, and her eyes lit up - she genuinely thought she had just won the lottery
3) Women with guy friends are a disaster waiting to happen. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. If a woman has guy friends, you should run a mile - I mean, if you're MGTOW there's a huge chance you wont be dating, but if you do - avoid the ones with guy friends. They've either been ran through (high body count) OR the guys will play a BIG part in their life, often leaving you wondering why she's giving other men attention. There's no way this ends well.
4) Women aged 30+ are best left alone - at age 30, she has left a trail of broken hearts behind, she has been ran through, and there's a very high chance that if she somehow doesn't have kids, she'll be expecting them....with you.
5) If she's single at 30+, there's a reason. I dated one girl who had emotional extremes - within seconds she could go from the happiest girl ever, to the most cold, miserable girl ever. It gave me bad anxiety and really made me want to be single again.

I could go on and give 20+ bullet points, but you get the idea.

I'll be 100% truthful. I am somewhat sad that I wont have kids, or cohabit - the Disney dream we were all sold was very appealing, but it just isn't possible. Living alone as a MGTOW ghost is a lifestyle that some might struggle with, but it's better than the alternative, I can promise you that.

> I am somewhat sad that I wont have kids, or cohabit - the Disney dream we were all sold was very appealing...

Just keep reminding yourself that's your programming talking. I mean both the evolutionary programming ("must-worship-the-holy-vagina") and your societal one ("you are not a man until you impregnate a woman a bunch of times and enslave yourself to her and her spawn").

Keep using your rationality, mgtoe - the rage, the sadness, it will all go away; I promise you that.
You will "evolve" into a much better being - one that sees reality for what it is, not the fairy tales we were all indoctrinated in since childhood.

All I need to do is go through life half conscious to know that women haven’t changed. Even pieces of random conversations I hear in passing tell a whole lot about what you’re dealing with.

The woman with guy friends might as well get them all matching white knight t-shirts. That’s the type of entitled bitch that wants a loyal beta husband to take care of her, provide for her, and kiss her blemishless ass without question. And he better not have any concern or issue whatsoever with her having guy friends. But how dare he even speak to another woman.

That’s how the rules go in twat world.

Originally Posted by mgtoe

3) Women with guy friends are a disaster waiting to happen. Avoid. Avoid. Avoid. If a woman has guy friends, you should run a mile - I mean, if you're MGTOW there's a huge chance you wont be dating, but if you do - avoid the ones with guy friends. They've either been ran through (high body count) OR the guys will play a BIG part in their life, often leaving you wondering why she's giving other men attention. There's no way this ends well.

The orbiters... They all have these, backups to the relationship she is in. She gets validation from these followers also. She could even be plate spinning these guys or he could be "Friends with Benefits" type... Just because she's not having sex with you (yet) doesn't mean she's not having sex (with anyone else). The likelihood of her telling you what is going on in her love life will be nil until she gets commitment and then it will never be the complete story.

Guys who married to their HS/College Sweethearts for 15 years and then get cheated on, often find out at 35 there was stuff going on around the time they met that their "Life Partner, Best Friend, and Lover" never told them. One dude found out his kid's name was from her Chad boyfriend she was with in HS, they met as College Freshmen. The entire family never told him, and it wasn't a common name, either.

It often solves minor mysteries: "So that's why Gary/Gina/Geoff always gave me a funny look/avoided me since we got married."

Can't say enough good things about Strong Successful Male's stories. Mostly, but not only, cheating, but you hear dudes from all walks of life going through the same crap with women, once you get the setup, you can guess the story pretty accurately from there.

The Denial Gaslighting, Blame Shifting, Guilt Shaming, and then the Waterworks if all else fails. And the Trickle Truthing.

Best story was the guy claimed she was cheating, she denied, showed her a text a few days old, she said it was work husband, then showed the screenshot of her sending/receiving nudes, she claimed it was just flirting that went to far, showed her the pic of them going to a hotel, she tried to claim it was for a meeting until he said he called her work and they said there was no meeting, and so on and so forth. Basically she eventually admitted it but claimed it was just a few weeks old, until he showed her texts going back almost a year. Then claimed there was nobody else, but sure enough, there was another guy, a second affair partner he had evidence for.

And the whole time she would roll up, take off her makeup, talk about the kids, nag him about the trash, and generally act 100% normal each night.

Trickle Truth is a thing.