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    After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    My father and I never had much to talk about, he was almost never at home, he left work and took hours to get there, on weekends he went to play with his friends, that bothered my mother, who of all In some ways she was almost always upset, before I didn't understand it, I only saw that something was wrong, that the statements that "marriage is difficult but beautiful" and all the inconsideration that he suffered, I looked at it perfectly well, even if they tried to hide it, now I know that my father was running away from my mother and her bad temper, and when I suffered her anger first hand, why did she have to vent with someone (me) and not with one of my sisters. Anyway, today I talked to my father and asked him why he never told me the truth? because when I criticized the worst of my mother he told me "your mother is a wonderful woman", and he never had the courage to confront her when he hit me unfairly, and when I asked him about defects of the other women told me same as all the blue pill idiots "don't think about the faults of women or you won't get married". Well, the damage is already done, I got married, and I failed, but it wasn't me, I always adopted a resilient, stoic and persevering attitude. In short, my father, with the good intentions of making me believe that women are the most beautiful, did not protect me from anything, on the contrary.
    That is why I find this community a sanctuary of learning and full of men like me who want to improve themselves every day, but alone, not repeating the same mistakes, deludedly believing that having a mistress is happiness.
    My father had no answer, he was weak at the time and still is.

    If I had known what I know today, or my father had been honest with me and more courageous, I would have reaffirmed many things and would not have made so many mistakes, the worst was getting married believing the fallacy that women are more sensitive, more noble, and that without it man would not have a purposeful life.

    thanks to everyone who reads and writes in my posts, I have felt part of this place and it has helped me a lot to feel good about myself and I no longer have any guilt, this satisfaction is what I suppose we are all looking for when we get here , and not the self pitying ourselves to return to the harvest to be better just to please the childish and selfish whim of women.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    As a parent you want to shield your children from the truth. Black/red pilling a child is a bold move, which I'm trying with my 10 and 8 year old daughters. I pull no punches about the world in which they live and will inherit, but the average person can't stomach doing something like that. I tell them about my sordid past, how the world works nowadays to the point my 10 year old told me she wants me to lie to her about things. I can't do it. I refuse to be the type of parent that sends an 18 year old out into the world with false beliefs/expectations. Apparently your father was part of the 99.9% that felt comfortable doing that, don't blame him for it. He's a human who made a judgement call.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    I should have known better. When I was 16, I saw the bullshit and lies that my mother pulled on my dad; cheating, while attempting to "gaslight" him. After dad died, she began pulling lots of shit on the other male family members. Dad had divorced her, when he proved her infidelity. I stayed close to dad while she went off and married another man that turned out to be an asshole. He died leaving her a house that she couldn't afford to live in.

    When my mother finally died, I shed all of three tears. She died alone without anyone giving a shit about her. In the end, she reaped what she had sown. I had gone on with my life without staying in touch with her abusive mentality.

    I am finally by myself (MGTOW) and glad of it.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    Quote Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser View Post
    As a parent you want to shield your children from the truth. Black/red pilling a child is a bold move, which I'm trying with my 10 and 8 year old daughters. I pull no punches about the world in which they live and will inherit, but the average person can't stomach doing something like that. I tell them about my sordid past, how the world works nowadays to the point my 10 year old told me she wants me to lie to her about things. I can't do it. I refuse to be the type of parent that sends an 18 year old out into the world with false beliefs/expectations. Apparently your father was part of the 99.9% that felt comfortable doing that, don't blame him for it. He's a human who made a judgement call.
    Well, he was wrong, he chose the lie to make everyone believe that his marriage was solid and that he had the best woman.
    But he rarely recognized me as a good son, only when I got married did he recognize that I had value. I'm sorry but I'm not proud of my father, and always avoid being like him in sacrificing for the wife, or always pleasing her to avoid problems in the marriage. It was the one formula for disaster! It's like negotiating with terrorists.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Captain View Post
    I should have known better. When I was 16, I saw the bullshit and lies that my mother pulled on my dad; cheating, while attempting to "gaslight" him. After dad died, she began pulling lots of shit on the other male family members. Dad had divorced her, when he proved her infidelity. I stayed close to dad while she went off and married another man that turned out to be an asshole. He died leaving her a house that she couldn't afford to live in.

    When my mother finally died, I shed all of three tears. She died alone without anyone giving a shit about her. In the end, she reaped what she had sown. I had gone on with my life without staying in touch with her abusive mentality.

    I am finally by myself (MGTOW) and glad of it.
    Unfortunately I understand you, I know what an abusive mother is, she was another liar, it is incredible that having the truths in hand they hid them to avoid shame.
    That treating women like princesses is education for slaves, for servants of a tyrant, not for free men of high value, damn.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    Thanks for this post, OP. I would happily give my life savings away if i could talk with my old man just one more time. Sadly he passed away in over 2 decades ago. My father was my absolute role model and hero. But like we all are: he wasn't perfect. As stated in my intro, he named me after him IRL. Regarding women though I think he was totally blue. I asked him the "right questions" regarding women when I was a young adult, but I got all the BS "spice, honey, bla,bla,bla" you got as well.
    But my dad always were a woman's wet dream. When he entered the room, you could clearly feel the air humidity go up significantly when there were women in the room. Yet he acted like the absolute simp with them: being a gentleman, acting nicely, seating them, giving their coats. It was only until TRP found me when I figured out why that wasn't working with me. He was a blue pilled Chad. Hence I re-renamed myself on the forum to him. Because I can't "unlearn" my simping. Neither do I want it, because the best perk is simping behaviour is the best thot repellent I know. IDGAF what women think of me. As long as they stay Chad's problem I'm all fine with it.

    edit: typo
    Last edited by RedPilledSimp; September 6, 2022 at 9:26 AM.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    Thanks for sharing your story, Davout.

    I am probably tempting fate by responding, because my viewpoint on the matter is too extreme... even amongst my fellow MGTOWs.
    Oh well - here goes.

    I used to have feelings similar to your own about my parents. I even asked them once "why didn't you tell me the truth about thing A, thing B, thing C...? And since you knew the truth of this world, why the hell did you bring me into this fucked up existence"?

    But it didn't take me long to realize that if you are able to ask this kind of questions... well, you better stop expecting real answers.

    Almost no-one really thinks about life anymore. Everyone is just on auto-pilot...

    - "do as all the other sheep";
    - "find a set of vices you enjoy, and enjoy them until you die";
    - "willingly enslave yourself to your vices - whether it is drugs, alchohol, women, or whatever else".

    But then, what's my purpose in life?

    - "To make offspring".

    Really? So without them, my existence is pointless? And ditto for my offspring? And their offspring? Ad infinitum?

    The point of existence is reproduction?

    So cancer cells have purpose, because they reproduce? Really?

    (facepalm)

    I don't know about yours, but no one in my immediate environment dares face the truth - that we live in a cold, indifferent, spectacularly unfair universe. That the only worthwhile pursuit is to improve oneself... to discipline your instincts, to rise above the level of the damn animal, that eats, shits, fucks and dies.

    To be Human.

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    Re: After a long time I went home to talk to my father.

    Why would a divorced father that knows red pill, not give that knowledge to his son?

    I understand if the father was still married to the son's mother because the father would want to keep up appearances.


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