Thread: Aaron Clarey offers a very weak apology for his part in doxxing Bar Bar

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12uuNBnMrUg

So, Clarey has the balls to try and offer this weak assed apology to Bar Bar concerning his part in this back-stabbing act! He blames it on being early morning, still sleepy and not really reading the text before he passed it on......BALONEY!! You are not the victim of a bad text....you were a willing participant in this fuckery!

Again I will preface this by saying that I can't speak for any of my brother MGTOW, but he is ole Ikes's take:

Bite me Clarey!!! You threw in your lot and rode with team Elam and AVFM so you don't get to switch sides now you fuck!! You wore the uniform and attacked 2 giants and now you are paying the price by watching large amounts of your credibility evaporate in the manosphere. Where is fuckin team Elam now??!!!

You thought that both Bar Bar and Stardusk were going to be those so called fat, ugly can't get laid angry basement dwellers and your point would be proven!! Now that you have pictures of both, you find yourself in deep shit and want to strip off your team Elam uniform with this apology!

Well, piss off!! You ride with team Elam you go all the way with team Elam, because like it or not you are joined to him and A Voice For Mangina's for life! Maybe your next book can be about selling your soul for the promise of a few dollars! Hell, let this be an example for anyone else stupid enough to wear the AVFM brand! I didn't coin this ending I am about to use......I discovered it here in this forum. But I fits perfectly......"Bed....Made.....Lie!

I bet it's someone from AFVM. They did the same shit with a feminist from Mississauga, Ontario which is about 30 minutes from Toronto.

Here is where a feminists got doxxed after the buttheading with MRA.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Big_Red


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Clarey often says (mistakenly): "Those who can't do, teach" and one might also add: "Those who can neither do nor teach, teach Asshole consulting... and charge you for crappy advice." Lolololol

Cocky moron thought he'd increase in popularity by pandering to the tradcon manginas.
Oh, what a tangled web...

There is evasiveness in his apology. I've always believed that a man's apologies should be as forthright as his assertions, not less.

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

I bet it's someone from AFVM. They did the same shit with a feminist from Mississauga, Ontario which is about 30 minutes from Toronto.

Here is where a feminists got doxxed after the buttheading with MRA.

https://encyclopediadramatica.se/Big_Red


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It is more likely a enemy of both groups posing as an MRA to try to produce conflict and division. The feminist have done that before. I can recall, I think it was around 2011 when a feminist offered to have a debate with MRAs about whether feminism was still reliant. I believe the debate was in British Columbia Canada and it was with John the other but I could be wrong. Was a long time ago and details are fuzzy. What I do remember was that someone claiming to be an MRA sent many threats to the feminist coordinator of the even eventually shutting it down. Authors at Jezabel later bragged on that site that they posed as MRAs and threatened the coordinator of the debate. Would not be surprised if they are at it again.

He did it. It's obvious. The twitter account that had the doxing evidence had practically no followers. No one would have heard of it if Clarey didn't re-tweet it. How Clarey even got to know about the tweets of an account that was brand new and had no followers is hardly a mystery.

A successful MGTOW will have enemies. Those enemies often will get the goods but not pull the trigger themselves. They will find some cowardly traitor in the manosphere who's ego is battered and let them do the honor. And they will watch all hell break loose as people point fingers and engage in fratricide. See Chrix's point above. This is almost assuredly done by the enemies of the manosphere in general with the complicity of one or more of our own.

As a sidenote, I have to say that prior to this, I hardly listened to any videos on YouTube. After this, I've listened to a few of Barbarosssa's videos and the guy is a beast. His dissection of issues is so precise, he wields words like a scalpel. His psychological understanding is so rich, it makes his rebuttals devastating. I can see how those who disagree with MGTOW would feel like his words are cutting at their soul. To us, it's music. As an example. A true gift to the world of MGTOW and I hope he sticks around.

Originally Posted by ChrixtheGreat

It is more likely a enemy of both groups posing as an MRA to try to produce conflict and division. The feminist have done that before. I can recall, I think it was around 2011 when a feminist offered to have a debate with MRAs about whether feminism was still reliant. I believe the debate was in British Columbia Canada and it was with John the other but I could be wrong. Was a long time ago and details are fuzzy. What I do remember was that someone claiming to be an MRA sent many threats to the feminist coordinator of the even eventually shutting it down. Authors at Jezabel later bragged on that site that they posed as MRAs and threatened the coordinator of the debate. Would not be surprised if they are at it again.

Sorry but Paul Elam and others have been attacking MGTOW trying to cause conflict. Also I found about the info due to the fact someone posted it on AFVM forums. It was there for several months in the forums. I can't find it now but it was there.

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

Sorry but Paul Elam and others have been attacking MGTOW trying to cause conflict. Also I found about the info due to the fact someone posted it on AFVM forums. It was there for several months in the forums. I can't find it now but it was there.

Are you saying that someone on AVfM forums had doxed BarBar and Stardusk on their own well before this Twitter incident?

No. Someone doxxed the feminist red head and they provided the info on the message board. That's what I was referring to. It's still wrong considering it was her information, real name, phone number, city and her street name.

Originally Posted by jagrmeister

As a sidenote, I have to say that prior to this, I hardly listened to any videos on YouTube. After this, I've listened to a few of Barbarosssa's videos and the guy is a beast. His dissection of issues is so precise, he wields words like a scalpel. His psychological understanding is so rich, it makes his rebuttals devastating. I can see how those who disagree with MGTOW would feel like his words are cutting at their soul. To us, it's music. As an example. A true gift to the world of MGTOW and I hope he sticks around.

Yup. Barbar is fuckin' brilliant.

The other guys I consider at his level include Spetznaz and TruthOverEverything...

Spetznaz is pretty insightful and has a narrative tone that's very piercing. He claims to have worked on men's crisis issues, and if he's not a bonafide psychologist, he's certainly a well-informed layman.

TruthOverEverything is a bit more verbose than Barbar, but he's nothing less than inspirational. He's less psychological and analytical than the Spetznaz or Barbarossa, but he's big on promoting MGTOW self-improvement for its own sake.

Originally Posted by CrazyCanuck

No. Someone doxxed the feminist red head and they provided the info on the message board. That's what I was referring to. It's still wrong considering it was her information, real name, phone number, city and her street name.

If you're talking about Big Red, she had it coming. I just can't get upset with that. not real consistent, I admit. But she did get into everybody's face - in public - while the cameras were rolling. And she had that hair color in order to be seen and noticed.

Interesting.

Ok I found a AFVM staff Attila Vinczer trying to dox David Futrelle on twitter. I wish I took the screen shot myself however it's this site. Redirecting you to wehuntedthemammoth.com | donotlink.com Redirecting you to www.avoiceformen.com | donotlink.com

Look! These people call us just like feminists:

on AVFM:

FireBits • 15 hours ago
You are trying to establish MGTOW plus, acronym that means nothing. You are trying to make term MGTOW mean just another way to say MRM.
With AVFM's definitions even Elliot Rodgers could be a MGHOW, or any mangina with internalized misandry could be MGHOW. By claiming that MGTOW can also mean going mainstream way is intellectually dishonest.
Real MGTOW do not trust in women when it comes to relationships and reproduction. We don't trust the nature of female biology (reasons for this are explained in evolution psychology), that doesn't mean we can't trust women in other things on individual level in daily interactions. We opt out from our role in society, we don't make contracts with state, thus we don't marry.
Yet you can still date women if you maintain control over the right of having paternity test and your ability to practice your own way also in the future. Because of this logic getting married is last thing you can do as MGHOW, because after that you join back to high way, back to being slave.
Marriage and draft are two things that make men second class citizens, by accepting marriage you accept your role as a second class citizen.
You claim that we are as bad as feminist, just because we share the idea of dismantling gender roles. You say we are ideologues yet you are the ones who are trying to attack our chosen way. Ideologues are those who try to force others in their way of thinking. We don't say you can't marry, we only say that once you marry, you're not going your own way anymore.



driversuz Mod FireBits • 9 hours ago
You have been banned because of a serious and direct violation of Comment Policy (trolling). [Ref: 3996]
Additional remarks:
MGTOW troll on the offensive.

They don't care about well thought arguments. They are really vile.

MRAs call us a cult when they themselves delete posts from their site when it's not even offensive. :P

Any time I've posted comments on recent articles seeking clarification, usually in regards to their hateful MGTOW pieces, I get a warning for trolling and I'm told I'm purposely misrepresenting the words of the author. The MRAs of AVfM act just like the feminists they criticize. More tone-policing from female moderators, please! I don't even want to give that site my traffic anymore. Not that any of the new articles being published are worth reading to begin with. Who wants to read a debunking of the wage gap for the millionth time? These writers have long since run out of topics to explore, whereas MGTOW content actually gets better with time.

I got no warnings. It was ban at first sight.

Originally Posted by smallbitsoffire

I got no warnings. It was ban at first sight.

Brothers, it stands to reason that since sites such as AVFM (A Voice For Mistress) are over run with female staff, that they more than likely handle much if not all of the moderating. That's why I can't help but laugh at such men! They are tone and behaviour policed all day, yet have the gall to try and insult MGTOW sites! Don't expect mommy to let your post through....it will always be seen as too disrespectful to the wimminz.