Thread: A stupid woman tried to chat me up

A few days ago I was sitting in a cafe, reading a book and enjoying myself. At the next table was a woman in her fourties. Not ugly but not overly attractive as well.

I was reading a book and when I was searching for my cigarettes I put the book on the table. The woman bend forward and looked at the title. It was a book by Peter Scholl-Latour, a journalist who traveled the world and who died recently. He has profound knowledge and insight into the far east and has met a lot of politicians. The title of the book was "Die Welt aus den Fugen". You could roughly translate that to: "The world falling apart".

Sweet little cupcake didn´t seem to like the title of that book. She asked me "Can I ask you a question?" I said "Sure". She continued: "This is a very negative title. There are more positive books. We should read books about how to make the world a better place!"

Ok...I had a long day at work and wanted to read something stimulating. But unfortunatelly, I haven´t asked little cupcake for her opinion, when I bought that book.

I told her: "Well that is all nice...but in order to make the world better, we have to understand the problems first. Don´t you think?"

She then tried to have a conversation with me. I emphasize "tried". Whenever she said something, it was very vague. Someting like "You know, times are so difficult and people are not treating each other well. In former times, the world wasn´t so cold. Nowadays it seems people don´t treat each other with respect and it is all about power and money."

I then told her that the world was also pretty messed up in the past. And that during the cold war, there was a constant threat of nuclear warfare. And that the Cuba crisis wasn´t so funny after all.

She then continued how politicians are all greedy nowadays and that the world and the people are somehow not what they once were....and people do not connect with each other...and everything was so difficult and confusing.

I then told her that politicians have always been greedy and corrupted and that cruelty is nothing new...that the inquisition has killed and tortured thousands of people. I have to admit that I got a sadistic pleasure from taking all her naive comments apart. I spared her a detailed explanation of waterboarding or an excourse to people like Charles Manson. I was afraid she might get scared and start crying.

Now, me being a realist (some would say a pessismist) and sometimes a misanthrope understood what she wanted to say, but she was very confused and all over the place. I was quickly losing my patience with her but out of a sadistic pleasure, I played along and I countered every statement of her with a question. "What exactly do you mean? Can you explain that?" and so on.

This was definitely not going the way she was expecting. I could see that she was very irritated by my questions. After a while she stopped talking.

I understand that she was just trying to chat me up and maybe she just tried to flirt with me. But a woman in her fourties should at least have a basic understanding how flirting works. (Not that this would have helped in any way, because she was not my type at all).

Women always claim that they are have a higher "emotional intelligence" and they are better communicators then men. Where the fuck are those women? Most women seem to be unable to chat up a guy without stuttering or being all over the place. And even when I was flirting with a woman I was interested in, she would often cause irritating breaks in the conversation, even when I tried to build bridges for her, helping her to keep the flow and offering her multiple points she could connect.

If that woman would just have tried to flirt with me, even if it would have been silly, I could have appreciated that. I would not have given her my number but at least it would not have been such an awkward experience. Lady, if you have no clue, what you are talking about, plase shut the fuck up!

Thank god, I didn´t have a book about a computer related topic. Otherwise she might have told me that computers are "creepy" and that they always freak her out when something doesn´t work.

If I had the same "flirting skills" like that woman in her fourties, I would still be a virgin!

Women are better communicators! My ass!

They get approval for spouting vague generalities all their lives - because pussy.

Once the simps stop treating their mental dribble as if its the wisdom of Solomon - because pussy - these women don't know how to deal with rational discourse. They don't know how to construct an argument. They don't understand elementary logic... Because they never had to.

Because pussy.

She just got a confirmation she doesn't want and won't want to acknowledge. 5, 10, 15 years ago, she could say a bunch of bullshit and someone probably wanted to fuck her so they played softball with the 'serious discussion'. Now that she's past the wall, her looks fading/faded, the conversations don't go nearly as smoothly as they used to.

She actually has to know things now in an actual conversation, and she was shown she's not as sophisticated as she pretends to be. Before, she could spout some inane drivel and get a smile, or a laugh and someone asking her for her number or even on a date. Now? She's getting called on her banality.

She didn't get to live, laugh and love...uh oh, call the police, the word misogyny is gonna get used as an accusation in 3...2...Yawn.

She just got a confirmation she doesn't want and won't want to acknowledge. 5, 10, 15 years ago, she could say a bunch of bullshit and someone probably wanted to fuck her so they played softball with the 'serious discussion'. Now that she's past the wall, her looks fading/faded, the conversations don't go nearly as smoothly as they used to.

First, this story gave me a laugh, GK, so thanks. I quoted Demosthenes here because he nailed it. I was having a similar thought the other day. In our modern era, a woman gets sexual validation despite her shitty personality in her 20s. I've noticed that in my 'morning after' conversations with women I've had one-night stands with; they just bleat on and on and on about nothing and don't particularly check in to see if the guy gives a shit. But after I've got the bang, I don't care. They don't really care either; because they just find some other guy to hook up with the next weekend. Sexual validation by men is the coin of the realm for women today. They can get that currency without a personality. When they drift into older age, they never had to focus on self-improvement and it's just way too late for them to change.

When men withdraw their interest from a woman when she's 30 or beyond, she wonders "what happened?". This sometimes is expressed as "where did all the (good) men go?". Your looks faded and we stopped pretending what you were saying was interesting.

>If I had the same "flirting skills" like that woman in her fourties, I would still be a virgin!

Precisely. The same woman who gets a hassle-free go off things in her personal life, is the same entitled twat who doesn't feel like she was to work hard in her 20s, but demands equal pay. The average 20 something woman is totally corrupted by her carousel-riding, personally and professionally.

First off, I am going to drink a few pints of Warsteiner beer, followed by a good Irish Whiskey, to honor your patience brother Gabriel! As stated above, this empty headed individual not only interrupted your reading...she also thought that she could spout empty and meaningless drivel in the hopes of being mistaken as a deep thinker or even an intellectual! Keep knocking them down my brother!!!

Originally Posted by GabrielKnight

" … In former times, the world wasn´t so cold. … "

Translation: people dont treat her as nicely as they used to when she was younger and hotter.

Originally Posted by GabrielKnight

A few days ago I was sitting in a cafe, reading a book and enjoying myself. At the next table was a woman in her fourties. Not ugly but not overly attractive as well.

I was reading a book and when I was searching for my cigarettes I put the book on the table. The woman bend forward and looked at the title. It was a book by Peter Scholl-Latour, a journalist who traveled the world and who died recently. He has profound knowledge and insight into the far east and has met a lot of politicians. The title of the book was "Die Welt aus den Fugen". You could roughly translate that to: "The world falling apart".

Sweet little cupcake didn´t seem to like the title of that book. She asked me "Can I ask you a question?" I said "Sure". She continued: "This is a very negative title. There are more positive books. We should read books about how to make the world a better place!"

Ok...I had a long day at work and wanted to read something stimulating. But unfortunatelly, I haven´t asked little cupcake for her opinion, when I bought that book.

I told her: "Well that is all nice...but in order to make the world better, we have to understand the problems first. Don´t you think?"

She then tried to have a conversation with me. I emphasize "tried". Whenever she said something, it was very vague. Someting like "You know, times are so difficult and people are not treating each other well. In former times, the world wasn´t so cold. Nowadays it seems people don´t treat each other with respect and it is all about power and money."

I then told her that the world was also pretty messed up in the past. And that during the cold war, there was a constant threat of nuclear warfare. And that the Cuba crisis wasn´t so funny after all.

She then continued how politicians are all greedy nowadays and that the world and the people are somehow not what they once were....and people do not connect with each other...and everything was so difficult and confusing.

I then told her that politicians have always been greedy and corrupted and that cruelty is nothing new...that the inquisition has killed and tortured thousands of people. I have to admit that I got a sadistic pleasure from taking all her naive comments apart. I spared her a detailed explanation of waterboarding or an excourse to people like Charles Manson. I was afraid she might get scared and start crying.

Now, me being a realist (some would say a pessismist) and sometimes a misanthrope understood what she wanted to say, but she was very confused and all over the place. I was quickly losing my patience with her but out of a sadistic pleasure, I played along and I countered every statement of her with a question. "What exactly do you mean? Can you explain that?" and so on.

This was definitely not going the way she was expecting. I could see that she was very irritated by my questions. After a while she stopped talking.

I understand that she was just trying to chat me up and maybe she just tried to flirt with me. But a woman in her fourties should at least have a basic understanding how flirting works. (Not that this would have helped in any way, because she was not my type at all).

Women always claim that they are have a higher "emotional intelligence" and they are better communicators then men. Where the fuck are those women? Most women seem to be unable to chat up a guy without stuttering or being all over the place. And even when I was flirting with a woman I was interested in, she would often cause irritating breaks in the conversation, even when I tried to build bridges for her, helping her to keep the flow and offering her multiple points she could connect.

If that woman would just have tried to flirt with me, even if it would have been silly, I could have appreciated that. I would not have given her my number but at least it would not have been such an awkward experience. Lady, if you have no clue, what you are talking about, plase shut the fuck up!

Thank god, I didn´t have a book about a computer related topic. Otherwise she might have told me that computers are "creepy" and that they always freak her out when something doesn´t work.

If I had the same "flirting skills" like that woman in her fourties, I would still be a virgin!

Women are better communicators! My ass!

She just expected you to be a lap dog and gobble up everything she said, agree with her, and default to complimenting her on how smart, thoughtful, and beautiful she was. The world has taught princesses this is how you are supposed to act. You are absolutely never, ever, supposed to call her out on inane bullshit.

This is your fault Gabriel. Don't you know how to behave as a man? What's wrong with you? Are you some sort of creep or weirdo?

even supposedly intelligent women are impossible to hold a conversation with. most women are downright stupid.

now you have a tiny idea of what it's like to deal with my mom.

Sweet little cupcake didn´t seem to like the title of that book. She asked me "Can I ask you a question?" I said "Sure". She continued: "This is a very negative title. There are more positive books. We should read books about how to make the world a better place!"

First thing said to you is how wrong you are. Why didn't you jump on that Gabe!

Is this why they don't approach as often? Because of foot straight into mouth?

Originally Posted by jagrmeister

Your looks faded and we stopped pretending what you were saying was interesting.

Nailed it. And this perfectly illustrates SMV vs AV

Take approval-for-cooter out of the equation and women are on dangerous ground in almost any situation.

Thank you for sharing, very much enjoyed reading what you had to say.

Like you, I find that, often at the most inconvenient times (and places), women will try to distract you from whatever you might be doing - such as eating a meal or, as in your case, reading a book and you must always keep in mind that it's simply for attention. Women CRAVE attention/validation like you would not believe and, should you engage them in conversation - perhaps out of pity/social obligation as is the case with myself, you'll find that they're incredibly vapid and boring with no real interest in anything of substance, especially things that don't affect them in some way or other.

Originally Posted by GabrielKnight

Now, me being a realist (some would say a pessismist) and sometimes a misanthrope understood what she wanted to say, but she was very confused and all over the place. I was quickly losing my patience with her but out of a sadistic pleasure, I played along and I countered every statement of her with a question. "What exactly do you mean? Can you explain that?" and so on.

Women always claim that they are have a higher "emotional intelligence" and they are better communicators then men. Where the fuck are those women? Most women seem to be unable to chat up a guy without stuttering or being all over the place.

Women are better communicators! My ass!

Being a realist is messy and icky to many men and most women. It conflicts with the illusions that makes their lives bearable.

Emotional intelligence in women is laughable. They are all drama queens and pingers. Watch any modern youtube video of some accident or disaster, filmed in the age of "strong women." They howl and scream like banshees. They offer no assistance, and often interfere with those trying to help. At best they are paralyzed to take any action, even to self rescue.

They confuse quantity with quality with the communication claims.

Anyway, men don't say much because they can't get a word in edgewise.

Originally Posted by Cap285

Sweet little cupcake didn´t seem to like the title of that book. She asked me "Can I ask you a question?" I said "Sure". She continued: "This is a very negative title. There are more positive books. We should read books about how to make the world a better place!"

First thing said to you is how wrong you are.…

Newsflash babe: negging doesn't work on guys.

Sweet little cupcake didn´t seem to like the title of that book.

Don't you just love the term, "cupcake"? Its just so descriptive and always paints a perfect mind's eye image.

In PUA terms: "women have no game." Women may laugh all they want at the slightly inept flirting of men; but they themselves are afraid to even set a foot in the vicinity of those they are interested in! If they are good looking, the men do it for them; when they aren't, or when the looks fade, embarrassing attempts like these flourish.

As for this idealizing of an age in which everything was better -- this disparaging of our age, in which things are not how they "once were" -- I always hit back with Macaulay: "Those who compare the age in which their lot has fallen with a golden age which exists only in imagination, may talk of degeneracy and decay; but no man who is correctly informed as to the past, will be disposed to take a morose or desponding view of the present." Anthony Powell's restrained wisdom works too:

It is better to remain calm; try to remember that all epochs have had to suffer assaults on commonsense and common decency, art and letters, honor and wit, courage and order, good manners and free speech, privacy and scholarship; even if sworn enemies of these abstractions (quite often wearing the disguise of their friends) seem unduly numerous in contemporary society.

We have collected enough writings throughout years of human history to know it is too often claimed that the age someone is currently living in is the worst of all -- in fact, Macaulay's quote was a hidden take-down of Carlyle, who talked endlessly of "these our afflicted times," "this dislocated time," "these anarchic times," "these quite unmusical days," "the most distracted and divided age," "our poor nineteenth century," "our poor, jarring, self-listening time," "this sad age of cobwebs, worn-out symbolism, reminiscences and simulacra," "these unspeakable days", "these bad days," etc.

It is interesting she says we "should" read books about how to improve the worlds. I wonder how exactly she is "improving" this world? I venture to guess that, like most women, she is more involved in self-help books, because she can't even help herself, let alone improve the world.

Here's how to manage that problem in the future.

Ask her a question. Then when she responds with a generality, ask a specific detail based on her general statement. Repeat until she runs out of mental gas and shuts up, or she gets pissed and leaves. Usually those events are one and the same.

Because women do not apply morality to themselves, every situation is fluid. Its a confusing way to exist.

Originally Posted by Octavian

Repeat until she runs out of mental gas and shuts up, or she gets pissed and leaves. Usually those events are one and the same.

Based on my personal experience, although anecdotal, this doesn't take very long. Five or ten minutes and the twat is exasperated and bails.