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    A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    https://www.wsj.com/articles/college...ol-11630948233

    This education gap, which holds at both two- and four-year colleges, has been slowly widening for 40 years. The divergence increases at graduation: After six years of college, 65% of women in the U.S. who started a four-year university in 2012 received diplomas by 2018 compared with 59% of men during the same period, according to the U.S. Department of Education.

    In the next few years, two women will earn a college degree for every man, if the trend continues, said Douglas Shapiro, executive director of the research center at the National Student Clearinghouse.

    No reversal is in sight. Women increased their lead over men in college applications for the 2021-22 school year—3,805,978 to 2,815,810—by nearly a percentage point compared with the previous academic year, according to Common Application, a nonprofit that transmits applications to more than 900 schools. Women make up 49% of the college-age population in the U.S., according to the Census Bureau.

    “Men are falling behind remarkably fast,” said Thomas Mortenson, a senior scholar at the Pell Institute for the Study of Opportunity in Higher Education, which aims to improve educational opportunities for low-income, first-generation and disabled college students.

    American colleges, which are embroiled in debates over racial and gender equality, and working on ways to reduce sexual assault and harassment of women on campus, have yet to reach a consensus on what might slow the retreat of men from higher education. Some schools are quietly trying programs to enroll more men, but there is scant campus support for spending resources to boost male attendance and retention.
    This remind me of a beautiful poem by Gavrila Romanovich Derzhavin

    A sweet-voiced bird's been caught.
    They squeeze it in a vice-like grip.
    The poor thing squeaks and warbles not
    But they insist: "O, birdie, sing!


    They demonize masculinity, create a society that stifles male creativity and growth yet question why things are the way they are.
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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    And men are put off or stopped altogether from applying for courses that women don't complete or don't want. Veterinary science, notably for farm animals is a field in Australia that lacks the right people. It is hard work and requires strength as well as putting up with the gross factor. It draws more men than women but women don't apply or complete the courses but they still won't drop the gender quota because - sexism.

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    The college system is a disaster in progress. Grade inflation is rampant, even at the best universities. At Harvard half the grades are A or A-. They don't want to fail the people paying the high tuition. Young men starting are immediately treated like criminals, since supposedly on campus sexual assault is running rampant. So there's required training for the men on such topics as "sensitivity" and getting consent. College was traditionally a place for critical discussion and debate. But now such talk might create a hostile atmosphere for the females and other delicate souls who are the majority. So there are prohibitions against free speech.

    So men figure out what a circus it is and either drop out or don't sign up to begin with. Women pick up the increasing number of dumbed down degrees. College degrees cost a fortune, and don't mean much.

    We don't have to wait until 2505 to see "idiocracy" come to life. It's already here.

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    No college wants to tackle the issue under the glare of gender politics, said Ms. Delahunty, the enrollment consultant. The conventional view on campuses, she said, is that “men make more money, men hold higher positions, why should we give them a little shove from high school to college?”

    Yet the stakes are too high to ignore, she said. “If you care about our society, one, and, two, if you care about women, you have to care about the boys, too. If you have equally educated numbers of men and women that just makes a better society, and it makes it better for women.”
    Seems benevolent but her carefully placing boys as an afterthought didn't get lost on me. Yea, society, women, and maybe boys, too. I personally believe meritocracy has its flaws but this isn't one of those cases. No way you can have an equal number of educated men and women in a capitalist economy (I'm aware we're not really a capitalist economy but for the sake of this argument...), it's unrealistic. How about colleges go back to strictly admitting students based on performance and purely on performance, instead of the affirmative action bs and who your daddy knows.

    Young men get little help, in part, because schools are focused on encouraging historically underrepresented students. Jerlando Jackson, department chair, Education Leadership and Policy Analysis, at the University of Wisconsin’s School of Education, said few campuses have been willing to spend limited funds on male underachievement that would also benefit white men, risking criticism for assisting those who have historically held the biggest educational advantages.

    “As a country, we don’t have the tools yet to help white men who find themselves needing help,” Dr. Jackson said. “To be in a time when there are groups of white men that are falling through the cracks, it’s hard.”
    You already know that a news article in this era would underachieve without a little touch of racism
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    > “Men are falling behind remarkably fast,"

    So what? Oh right, it's another loser academic wanting a check, and finding it impossible to believe you can succeed without "muh college".

    Funny how so many people succeed without college. It takes little work to gain a trade, make tons of money, then start a business in that trade via opportunities being explored. You don't need to take "Greek and Latin roots in Literature 101" classes to figure out how to do a job that costs you $x, and charge $y for it, and pocket the difference $z.

    Do you need college to learn to spend less than you make? Lifestyle < income = wealth building.

    Magic. You owe me $48,000 now.

    They're mad that leftists will lose support from the white men they absolutely are disgusted by.

    They absolutely, and purely hate, men. Of call kinds. If you aren't a dick sucker and something less than "tan", they don't give a shit. And please be a lesbian transgender wheelchair bound Color of Person from a war torn country as a refugee with an option for a Sundance documentary about "muh struggle" if you expect them to give a shit.

    Also, wear some stupid head dress and bay at the moon on some made up religious festival that no one has heard of because colonial imperialists forced Christianity down your throat.

    Also, college? Unless you're there for one of like three degrees, it's a complete waste of time, and a money making scam through and through.

    I wasted 6 years of my life at university and I'll never get that time back. But at least I got drunk and laid, which clearly would not have been possible without going to school for my "education".

    PS: Greek and Latin Roots in Literature is a real class I took.

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    Angry, bitter feminists have succeeded in making college campuses a hostile environment for men.

    so, very soon there will be 2 women entering college for each man who enters college. women see this and scream "GIRL POWER!!!"

    4 years later, 2 women graduate for every man who graduates.

    after about 5 years of carousel riding, they'll all be about 27 years old. The women will hear the clock ticking, and start looking for a husband.

    1 out of 2 college educated women won't be able to find a college educated man to marry.

    Women see this and scream "where have all the good men gone...?"

    All men hear this, and laugh.

    Only an angry, bitter feminist could be so pissed off that this basic, simple math would escape her...

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    I don't understand why Affirmative Action doesn't have accelerated dynamics to place the beneficiaries in 100% and the segregated 100% vanquished?

    Hovering around 60/40 inverted minority makes one wonder what's their mission?

    60% minority/ 40% majority is a mathematical impossibility, just like our elections, but that's on another chalkboard...

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    What I don't get, is who's going to want these women with their shitty attitudes and devalued degrees? Any manager with half a brain is going avoid them like the plague. Half of these boat anchors won't be able to buy a job. I suppose the rest will get hired, and then their companys will have to jack up the price of their product just to stay alive.

    A hundred years ago, college was often used by the rich as an excuse as to why their kids had a leg up on Joe Lunchpail's offspring. Sorry Joe, they need college for that. Knowing full well that half of working stiff's kids wouldn't make it through high school. Before the GI bill came along in the forty's, college was mostly for rich people.
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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    It's hard to find hope in much these days, but there's a glimmer here for men who figure it out young. Get out of high school age 18. Opt out of the messed up college system and go for real work. I've heard employers are starting to opt out as well. They can train people to do jobs rather than take on entitled college graduates. A cupcake with a $150,000 degree in women's studies isn't what (intelligent) employers want to have on board. So whether it's self employment or working for someone else, there are options for a man willing to do honest work of real value to the world.

    So at age 27, the savvy man can have 9 years of work experience, money in the bank without the debt, assets, and freedom.

    And the 27 yo women in heavy debt with their degrees can flail around sifting through the few male college graduates for partners. They'll still have to have partners, because "educated" or not, most really don't want to get stuck making a living for themselves.

    Those of us who have it figured it can sit back and enjoy the show..

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    It's a grim overview no matter which angle you view it, western policies, laws, actions, and regulations are utterly insane no matter what way you extrapolate it!

    Men have been relieved of our cultural authority, manly duties, and subjected to unnatural law, AKA tyranny by accountability to actions not our own.
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    Colleges are nothing but an indoctrination scam. Kids go for useless degrees in stuff like gender studies and liberal arts, art, languages that Americans don't use and then they wonder why they can't get a job while racking up the debt that they could of invested in a house instead. I didn't go to college (except for 1 semester in community college) and I have more money saved up from my SSI disability than a broke college graduate has. My philosophy is once you're done with high school, just get to work and move on up the career ladder from within, and save up your money to start your own business.

    Take me for example, I have $20K saved up from disability and I'm now working with major supplement companies, getting information so I can invest and resell their supplements online. And once I get in shape, I'm considering starting my own fitness website where people pay me to get information and training on fitness and recipes and sell more supplements.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    Makes me wonder to what extent this is due to the proliferation of largely worthless degree subjects that are typically female dominated - sociology, gender studies, liberal arts etc.

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    Quote Originally Posted by DanielPlainview View Post
    Makes me wonder to what extent this is due to the proliferation of largely worthless degree subjects that are typically female dominated - sociology, gender studies, liberal arts etc.
    Here's your do nothing degree, your pay nothing employment, and your 60k student debt.

    You are now an educated idiot.
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    The money is in trade skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    Colleges are nothing but an indoctrination scam. Kids go for useless degrees in stuff like gender studies and liberal arts, art, languages that Americans don't use and then they wonder why they can't get a job while racking up the debt that they could of invested in a house instead. I didn't go to college (except for 1 semester in community college) and I have more money saved up from my SSI disability than a broke college graduate has. My philosophy is once you're done with high school, just get to work and move on up the career ladder from within, and save up your money to start your own business.

    Take me for example, I have $20K saved up from disability and I'm now working with major supplement companies, getting information so I can invest and resell their supplements online. And once I get in shape, I'm considering starting my own fitness website where people pay me to get information and training on fitness and recipes and sell more supplements.
    I also get SSDI and have 30k saved. Only started saving a few years ago. My brother "who is the a real man" works at McDonalds at 32. He thinks he's better than everyone but he has no friends and nobody even remembers him because he's a joke with that job. He would have been better off doing almost anything else. Everyone he knew has surpassed him. He tries to give me life advice when he's a multiple time loser. The only job I ever had paid more and was prestige than his (I worked for the House of Commons).

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    If he is without a gf, he maybe a winner. Loser or not, does not count on how much money you made (for women).
    It is a bluepilled view of life.

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    > “Men are falling behind remarkably fast,"

    Also, college? Unless you're there for one of like three degrees, it's a complete waste of time, and a money making scam through and through.

    I wasted 6 years of my life at university and I'll never get that time back. But at least I got drunk and laid, which clearly would not have been possible without going to school for my "education".

    PS: Greek and Latin Roots in Literature is a real class I took.
    You might not think that your Greek and Latin Roots class was of any use to you. However, there is one benefit from a classics degree, and that is, it trains your power of concentration. I studied Latin and Greek (a full classics degree) for four years in the eighties. It was very difficult and intensive - particularly English to Greek composition because of the amont of grammar and vocabulary which you need to retain in your memory. When I left I couldnt get any job (there was a recession) and I didnt want to teach. After a couple of years I took up a professional law degree and I found that the law exams were extremely easy because of the mind/concentration training which I had to force myself to do when studying classics. I now work in the legal profession (not specialising in family law!) and I found that the earlier classics degree still stands to me re. concentrating/focusing on work; thinking abstractly to solve problems; picking out the relevant issues in a large amount of documents; writing concisely; and precise word usage in legal contexts.
    So I wouldn't entirely consider that your study was a waste because it will stand to you at some time (whether you think it or not) because of the mental discipline which was required of you during your completion of the course

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    Previous post #17, that member's first post, released from moderation only now.


    Here are opinions from conservative commenter Matt Walsh regarding the wsj article. I start the video at time point 02:10 and it lasts nine minutes:

    Men Are Abandoning The University System. It’s About Time. | Ep. 792
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

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    Re: A Generation of American Men Give Up on College: ‘I Just Feel Lost’

    I went to college 20 years ago. It was bad. Loads of horny cows, simps and soyboys.
    I got in, got my degree and got out as fast as I could.

    I cannot even imagine the shitshow it must be now.


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