Thread: A Confession...

I tried to go among them. I found the most acceptingly Reddit Sub that I could find... And I tried. I REALLY DID TRY... to couch our understanding, within their terms. I really did try. I told them of the man I Used to Be. The friend to Women. The guy who watched their drinks in the pub. The man who stopped two drug-rapes. The man who was known as a Safe-Ride in my college days. The guy who literally with-held from hard booze, just in case a women needed a Safe-Ride home.

And they Cast Me Out. Again. Their Hatred and Contempt for all mankind... They literally deleted my post, on their Reddit Sub. I can literally see the ghosts of their responses, but the post is deleted. And I tried... I tried to warn them, of the terrifying threat that a world full of Emotionally Burned-Out MGTOW (for that is what we are, for 3-5 years) would pose to them. And they banned me (we).

I tried. That's all I can say. I tried. We all tried. We really did. We all tried, to be their friends, and lovers, and husbands. We all tried, so very hard. And all we received was cruelty.

This was my last attempt. My final shot, at a union... And they fucking deleted it.

May Hell have them.

I couldn't help but laugh when reading that (sorry, screw lol).

I don't get it...why even bother? At this stage in your MGTOW journey (if you are indeed going your own way), why try to convince them at all of anything, why seek them out, why seek out their validation and their acceptance, why warn your enemies, why make yourself small again, WHY?...

I tried but I didn't try nearly as hard. I never did have the patience to cuddle the female inherent flaw, I never could stand being treated poorly, I hit the road at the first sniff of it, forward and onward on my own way.

Originally Posted by ScrewJita

I tried to go among them. I found the most acceptingly Reddit Sub that I could find... And I tried. I REALLY DID TRY... to couch our understanding, within their terms. I really did try. I told them of the man I Used to Be. The friend to Women. The guy who watched their drinks in the pub. The man who stopped two drug-rapes. The man who was known as a Safe-Ride in my college days. The guy who literally with-held from hard booze, just in case a women needed a Safe-Ride home.

And they Cast Me Out. Again. Their Hatred and Contempt for all mankind... They literally deleted my post, on their Reddit Sub. I can literally see the ghosts of their responses, but the post is deleted. And I tried... I tried to warn them, of the terrifying threat that a world full of Emotionally Burned-Out MGTOW (for that is what we are, for 3-5 years) would pose to them. And they banned me (we).

I tried. That's all I can say. I tried. We all tried. We really did. We all tried, to be their friends, and lovers, and husbands. We all tried, so very hard. And all we received was cruelty.

This was my last attempt. My final shot, at a union... And they fucking deleted it.

May Hell have them.

Speak for yourself dude. I'm as far from an emo burnout as they make them. I still have all my capacities to love, care for others, socialize, empathy and so forth. In fact, I may have never been healthier that way.

Ever since I stopped letting women manipulate me. Or take advantage of me. Or live with one.

From what I see here you are more concerned with acceptance from others. Rather than just living a quality life for yourself.

Sad to report, I was more like Screw. Worked my ass off, yet seldom made any progress. The ultimate chump I was.

It's true there's no hope for the present crop, their rotten to the core. But I'd like to think there might be a few young ones out there smart enough to realize kicking men is not going to get the sisterhood much farther. A hell of a long shot I'll grant you, but there might be some. With everything going to hell they're not going to escape unharmed as they always have before.

They were once worth their salt and could be again if they wanted. Just cause it's not likely don't mean it couldn't happen.

Originally Posted by frog

Sad to report, I was more like Screw. Worked my ass off, yet seldom made any progress. The ultimate chump I was.

It's true there's no hope for the present crop, their rotten to the core. But I'd like to think there might be a few young ones out there smart enough to realize kicking men is not going to get the sisterhood much farther. A hell of a long shot I'll grant you, but there might be some. With everything going to hell they're not going to escape unharmed as they always have before.

They were once worth their salt and could be again if they wanted. Just cause it's not likely don't mean it couldn't happen.

Regardless, I found women to be foreign to good nature, fickle, and on their best day mediocre. There's no way I could make the adjustments needed that sacrifice my sovereignty and solidarity as captain and commander of my own life. In a short sentence; women are disobedient to sound logic, good order, and prime directives. It's no different than being tied to a sinking anchor and cutting yourself loose, I won't go down with my ship because my ship avoids those turbulent waters! Chivalry is dead, it's every man for himself! Culture manipulation and transformation is the 21st century's #1 threat to the western world's survival.

We all have our burn scars and it's why we congregate, affirm, and warn the newcomers of the flames. They say it's burning down, we say it's smoldering ash and nothing left worth saving.

Being in a gas chamber when the gas comes on is no time to be optimistic and a good time to get out!

Originally Posted by ScrewJita

And they Cast Me Out. Again. Their Hatred and Contempt for all mankind... They literally deleted my post, on their Reddit Sub.

Meh. I got temp banned for reddit a couple of times. Eventually perma-banned. After a few days, I discovered that reddit was a bad habit that chewed up too much of my time.

I found that I am a lot happier when IDGAF ( I Don't Give A Fuck) about them.

Drug-rape? Not my problem lady, if you can't be more alert to what goes in your drink. Or if your clique of girlfriends are not looking out for you.

Too many drinks? Again, not my problem if you're not adult enough to watch what goes down your throat. Or if your clique of girlfriends are too busy chugging down free alcohol (courtesy of some simp) down their throats.

My brain feels so much lighter & freer when I absolutely DGAF about them.

Guys, it's not at all selfish to love yourself and to care about yourself more than about women. They don't care about you or even about what happens to themselves. So why should you care about them?

Take care of yourself and your own happiness. That's your priority.

You FIRST.

Your dog/cat SECOND

Your car/bike/chariot THIRD

Women....not even in the top ten.

I'm hopeless, even a good one would drive me crazy.

But they used to make a man's life better, and you young guys have never seen it. That's all I'm trying to say.

It seems like some MGTOW are still distantly yearning for the validation of women. They still faintly hear the song of the siren trying to lure them into treacherous waters. They proclaim that they are Red Pilled but these are the men who can't break through the barrier and smell the fresh air of independence and self validation on the other side. They stick their face through the Stargate portal but can't fully muster up the courage to step through because of the level of temporary uncertainty that it brings. Sadly these men are 1 blowjob away from being sucked back into the misery like a bug running into a Dyson.
They go through that and then return here proclaiming that now things are different and they will never go back. Then comes the Stargate portal again and everything repeats itself in an endless cycle. I feel for these men and hope that one day they truly break their chains and wander out onto the abundant fields of happiness.
Until then, I'll be here welcoming them back here each and every time.

Originally Posted by ScrewJita

This was my last attempt. My final shot, at a union... And they fucking deleted it.

May Hell have them.

It's a long, hard road to reach the point you just did. We've all been there. We've all stared out the window, watching the sunrise, just standing there, sipping coffee, as your mind snaps that last piece of the puzzle into place.

Congratulations. You just took your first steps in truly shaking off literal decades of indoctrination and propaganda. "Hope" is gone, replaced by realization the facts, as you used to know them, just didn't add up. 1+1=2. Always. The games, the shit tests, the special privilege, the unfathomable demands....lay bare before you. If you haven't experienced it yet, the Rage will follow. It'll pass, in time. As it did for the rest of us.

Welcome to freedom, my friend. The open road looks lonely, barren, distant right now. You haven't reached your destination yet. You're starting your journey, free to the trappings that held you back until now. You'll figure out what directions to take, enjoying some scenery as you go. Look forward to that. Until then, we'll be here, waiting.

I ran across a quote a long time ago. Don't know who to credit for it. Simple, succinct.
- "You can't fix stupid."

Originally Posted by ScrewJita

I REALLY DID TRY... to couch our understanding, within their terms. I really did try. I told them of the man I Used to Be. The friend to Women. The guy who watched their drinks in the pub. The man who stopped two drug-rapes. The man who was known as a Safe-Ride in my college days. The guy who literally with-held from hard booze, just in case a women needed a Safe-Ride home.

"A Nice Guy".... Nice guys finish last. Most of our mother's wanted us to grow up to be nice guys.... There are heaps of nice guys... Nice guys are easy for women to get and boring to be with, that's why women don't really like nice guys... Women easily use/abuse nice guys, because they can...

Why have a boring Nice Guy when you can have an exciting unpredictable "Bad Boy"?


Have you ever been in a room with all women and they are all talking at the same time? It's insane and 100% chaos.... I still remember the first time experiencing it.... How can someone talk at the same time as listening to 6 or 8 different conversations? They can't and don't care what anyone else is saying, they just want to express their own feelings. They are thinking out loud. They don't care what anyone else is saying, they are being driven by their own emotions. The women in that Reddit group would be the same... They don't care what you have to say, they only care what they have to say.

Originally Posted by Chris007

It seems like some MGTOW are still distantly yearning for the validation of women. They still faintly hear the song of the siren trying to lure them into treacherous waters...Sadly these men are 1 blowjob away from being sucked back into the misery like a bug running into a Dyson..

Amen to that - there's a reason for the Ancient Greek myth of The Sirens (as well as Nymphs, and other assorted imaginings of sexual fantasy).

I prefer to think of a pretty woman as a poisonous flower; nice to look at, sweet-smelling, and deadly to the touch.

There's a reason /r/MGTOW got banned.

People hate the truth, and they hate men discovering the truth even more.

Well, then just use them. Fuck. Dump. Run.

Originally Posted by absurdandchaos

Well, then just use them. Fuck. Dump. Run.

Leeroy from Springfield did that! He has 435 kids and a perpetual life sentence for non payment of child support!

I understand where you are coming from, a part of me truly want to be civil with them at the very least.

Sadly that is not to be, so I simply live without them. I hold no emotional value in women. If the need arise there is robot pussy and porn.

Had a good laugh too, OP. I once read: you don't find TRP. It finds you. Some day a vlog from that insane Chimpansee woman popped up on my YT feed having "MGTOW" in the title. I just clicked on it. I heard TFM explaining what feminism is. At first I went completely in denial but it peeked my curiosity. I'm always trying to have an open mind and see what others' POV is. The rest is history. But subconsciously I heard Morpheus saying; "if you take the red pill, I'll show you how deep the rabbit hole goes...."

Nowadays I'm still a TFM fan but I see I'm disagreeing on him more and more. No disagreement with RP things related though, except maybe: I refuse to hate women. Sure I hate some women but not all. And that disagreement is a good thing. He is advocating exactly that: go your own way. And FFS: don't agree with me all the time.

Originally Posted by ScrewJita

.... We all tried, so very hard. And all we received was cruelty. ....

That's exactly it. Thanks. You even prevented rapes, which is commendable. I've been there before too, at a party where everyone is getting shitfaced except for me, and they have a passed out drunk girl there. Some dudes have no pride and no decency. They'll bang a passed-out drunk girl. I've been that guy who stays with the passed-out drunk girl to make sure no goon rapes her. You would think that would result in a thank-you at the very least. Nope. I was accused of being the one who was a predator. No good deed ever goes unpunished, does it? Sheesh. Now I just stay away from all that shit. I don't drink anymore myself, and I don't go to parties like that anymore.

Originally Posted by frog

I'm hopeless, even a good one would drive me crazy.

But they used to make a man's life better, and you young guys have never seen it. That's all I'm trying to say.

I'm not so young and I've never seen it. Yes I've heard the rumours but those speading them (IRL) looked much the worse for wear. I think they were deluding themselves.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

I'm not so young and I've never seen it. Yes I've heard the rumours but those speading them (IRL) looked much the worse for wear. I think they were deluding themselves.

No doubt many were deluding themself and being a kid, I probably didn't know what I was looking at half the time. But I still maintain more guys than not were at least somewhat better off. A single guy could do ok. But if you had kids it was near impossible without somebody's help, and that somebody ended up being a woman more often than not.

Though there were some welfare Queens, they were not common as dirt like they are now. Back then a woman's surest way out of their parent's house was to marry, and most of them did. And since big daddy gov was a lot stingier then, women had to put a little more effort into it. Those days are long gone now of course, but they happened. At least more than today.