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    Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Hello all,

    I'm new to this forum. Here's my introduction:

    1. Relationship History:

    I've only had a few relationships in my life. A couple of sorta-girlfriends in college (16 -> 18) and University (called College in US). My main relationship by far was in my mid -> late twenties (see point "2. Awareness" below). Currently been single for about four years, having had no dating or sexual interaction with a woman for about two years.

    2. Awareness:

    As a child I was always aware of the hypocrisy of how girls were treated. In the UK where I live, it was constantly projected by all established authorities that girls do better than boys because they are better. Other than my distaste for this however I was a pretty standard blue-piller. I got red pilled when my girlfriend/partner sperm-jacked me in my late twenties. She claimed she was on the pill but came off it just before she hit 30. Despite this, I stuck by her and our child, determined to be the best father I could. When our child was born, my now ex's behaviour changed immediately, making it clear that I was to have no say in our child's life and was just there as a source of money and menial tasks. When I protested, I was kicked out and had to go to court to obtain visitation to my child. The family court process red pilled me deeply. During this time I became an MRA. I left this after coming to the opinion that it was pointless.

    Since then I have tried dating and gradually learnt more of female nature, slowly moving from digesting a lot of PUA content online to MGTOW content. MGTOW content quickly made a lot of things make sense; things that had puzzled me for a long time. Since then I have become more aligned with this view of life and myself. Now I self-describe as a MGTOW.

    3. Who you are

    Tea-swilling Brit who has a loicense for swilling that tea.
    I'm not a Ghost nor would I say Batchelor; hence a Neutral.
    I have a technical job in the utility industry. I am very career driven and focus a lot of my time of ways to up my career or even start my own business.
    I enjoy playing chess and have a small group of good friends.

    I'm looking forward to seeing more of this forum and posting something that maybe someone will find interesting one day.

    Suspiciously,

    A tea-swilling Crow.

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Hi suspiciouscrow,

    Thank you for your Intro. When I started to read it, I saw in answering #1 that you were lacking detail that we seek, usually of how the women acted in breaking up, what they said, what they did, but then you supplied it in answering #2.

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Thanks Unboxxed, I'm looking forward to getting to know the forum better. I can't comment on most threads (I think this is the only one I can comment on). Is that because I am new?

    Thanks,

    Crow.

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Oops. I forgot to remove you from quarantine. I've now done so.

    At this time, please read our Principles. The link is at the top of the page, in the black bar.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Welcome Matey.....stow yer gear and grab a beer....kick back and chew the fat with us for a spell....

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Welcome supiciouscrow,

    If you don't mind I'd like to ask a question:

    Quote Originally Posted by suspiciouscrow View Post
    During this time I became an MRA. I left this after coming to the opinion that it was pointless.
    In my early rage days I considered going the MRA route but didn't. I am curious about what activities were discussed and why you eventually decided to abandon it as a lost cause?
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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Hi Jackoff,

    More than happy to discuss:

    The group I was a part of focused specifically on better representing men in the family and divorce courts. The activities focused on were (a) helping men through court and (b) lobbying judges, parliament and goverment etc to change the laws and the system generally to make them less anti-father. I left for two main reasons:

    (1) The group, whilst they did help some men through court, and helped me a bit at first when I was greener than grass, never achieved anything in lobbying. I remember going to the AGM and hearing the chairman of the charity list their "achievements" this year. They were all things like "we spoke to this judge and he said he'll take our advice under consideration", so nothing. When I looked into the charities history, this has always been the case. Meanwhile, charities that advocate for women are constantly getting things they want in the courts over here.
    (2) There was a lot of in-fighting over petty things. I think this was partially a symptom of point (1). There was nothing to achieve so a lot of time ended up being spent on the irrelevant.

    Crow.

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Thank you for your reply.

    Quote Originally Posted by suspiciouscrow View Post
    Hi Jackoff,

    More than happy to discuss:

    The group I was a part of focused specifically on better representing men in the family and divorce courts. The activities focused on were (a) helping men through court and (b) lobbying judges, parliament and goverment etc to change the laws and the system generally to make them less anti-father. I left for two main reasons:
    Lobbying in favour of mens rights is probably a lost cause for reasons you're probably already familiar with, although I do hold out some hope for this cause of action I fear it a forlorn one.

    With regards helping men with court cases, would that also include recommending legal representation? Such representation that may be recognised by the sitting judge as being MRA in nature? If so, how do you think that sits with the judges?

    Also there is a belief in online circles that MRAs are mostly female, is that your experience in practice?
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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Thank for your reply Jackoff;

    With regards helping men with court cases, would that also include recommending legal representation? Such representation that may be recognised by the sitting judge as being MRA in nature? If so, how do you think that sits with the judges?
    Yes and no. In the UK there are unregistered providers of legal assistance called "McKenzie Friends". They cannot act on your behalf like a lawyer but can give you advice in court. Some of these McKenzie friends are strongly linked to MRA organisations and a Judge may be aware of this. Judges generally do not respond well to this. Whilst not officially denounced by the judiciary, government etc, all MRA organisations are treated with suspicion by established authority, as they go against the accepted narrative that men are always aggressors and women are always victims. The organisation I was in tried exceptionally hard to constantly prove it harbours no ill will towards women. This was to no avail, no matter how far they bend over backwards, they are constantly accused of being "closet misogynists".

    Also there is a belief in online circles that MRAs are mostly female, is that your experience in practice?
    No. There were very few female members of the organisation. Interestingly the few women present were actually victims of abusive partners, in my opinion (I can't know for sure). They got support from this group as it would support women, as well as men, through the family courts, helping to get an amicable arrangement with their ex for their children's benefit. Conversely, the women's charities helping women in family/divorce courts are very heavily weighted towards helping female abusers, not genuine victims, with no concern for the impact on children. A look at the websites of these organisations, such as Women's Aid, makes this clear. They're not interested in helping the few women who've actually been abused and are actually vulnerable as that's not their client base.

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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    Well,
    There ain't 'nothing wrong with swillin' tea. Earl Grey and I see pretty much eye to eye.
    I don't see goin' MGTOW as that big a deal any more. As I see it, it's more like "Seeing the light" on how the harpies operate. Welcome..... brew some tea, we'll have a chat.
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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    I'm looking forward to seeing more of this forum and posting something that maybe someone will find interesting one day.
    Task achieved! And I'm sure there'll be many more.

    Again, welcome.
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    Re: Tea Swilling Brit-Neutral's Introduction

    I like Earl Grey and keep a box around the house. During the winter time if I have a bit of a sore throat I will fix me a steaming cup of it and add 2 shots of "George Dickel" Whiskey....seems to help...

    But I get the best results with 3 or 4 applications !


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