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I just wanted to be a good father.

My wife just left me for another man. We were married for 3 years. She took half.
I can't prove this in court but it doesn't matter in my state. The laws are against men.

I remember when we met. It was almost 6 years ago. She was doing her thing at the club and I noticed her.
We were both at our peak. She was an office manager at a company party, and I was just waiting tables and studying.
She looked at me and I saw her cum in public. She looked a little embarrassed. Nobody around her seemed to notice but me.
I just winked at her and filled the wine glasses. In less than 6 months we were married. The churches were booked, so we did
the ceremony at her mothers' house with a local minister.

For the first month it was great. Everything I ever imagined marriage could be. Daily sex, blowjobs, cooking for her, fixing the
house, the car, plumbing (or hiring someone else to do it if I couldn't), and charting a financial course for our future.
She finished college a few months ahead of me, but was still working a shit job. I encouraged her to apply for a position which
payed more money and was more in line with her studies. She disagreed at first in small ways.
Then she disagreed the more I agreed with her.

At this point, I'm not sure what happened. I do know that every time she accosted me verbally it was with her feelings, not her logic.
The experience has shaken my faith in humanity. I wanted to be a chef and heal people with my recipes. My parents believed I would
become a great computer programmer, but I didn't choose that. I followed my dreams and everything I tried to do failed.

Now what? I looked for freedom and found this site.
Fuck if I know what to do next. I just wanted a place to speak freely and help others with the stuff I had to endure.

If any of this can help another guy trying to figure things out for himself, I'll try to post something worth reading.

You can call me Uhn.

Originally Posted by Uhn

I just wanted to be a good father.

My wife just left me for another man. We were married for 3 years. She took half.
I can't prove this in court but it doesn't matter in my state. The laws are against men.

I remember when we met. It was almost 6 years ago. She was doing her thing at the club and I noticed her.
We were both at our peak. She was an office manager at a company party, and I was just waiting tables and studying.
She looked at me and I saw her cum in public. She looked a little embarrassed. Nobody around her seemed to notice but me.
I just winked at her and filled the wine glasses. In less than 6 months we were married. The churches were booked, so we did
the ceremony at her mothers' house with a local minister.

For the first month it was great. Everything I ever imagined marriage could be. Daily sex, blowjobs, cooking for her, fixing the
house, the car, plumbing (or hiring someone else to do it if I couldn't), and charting a financial course for our future.
She finished college a few months ahead of me, but was still working a shit job. I encouraged her to apply for a position which
payed more money and was more in line with her studies. She disagreed at first in small ways.
Then she disagreed the more I agreed with her.

At this point, I'm not sure what happened. I do know that every time she accosted me verbally it was with her feelings, not her logic.
The experience has shaken my faith in humanity. I wanted to be a chef and heal people with my recipes. My parents believed I would
become a great computer programmer, but I didn't choose that. I followed my dreams and everything I tried to do failed.

Now what? I looked for freedom and found this site.
Fuck if I know what to do next. I just wanted a place to speak freely and help others with the stuff I had to endure.

If any of this can help another guy trying to figure things out for himself, I'll try to post something worth reading.

You can call me Uhn.

Hi Uhn,

Thank you for reaching out to us with your experience. Yes, this is a place where men share what has happened to each of us. You were married for 3 years and I infer for your opening remark that you are a parent by now?

I also infer that you are brand new to MGTOW as a response to these experiences with women. Which means you are likely not familiar with terms such as "blue pill" and "red pill", among other terms common to MGTOW and the manosphere.

I would be remiss as Admin if I didn't mention that registrants on our site must do an Intro that conforms with our How To Intro sticky found in the New Member Intros sub-forum. We all had to do one. In that sticky, there are three numbered points of discussion to which new registrants must successfully respond in order to be accepted for membership here as "red pill". Your post thus far has satisfied #1 of the three discussion points.

The sticky's point #2 includes you making a declaration that you have sworn off all future emotional relationships with women. This declaration is necessary to remain a registered member here. Typically, we find that men make this declaration of their own accord before they register on our site. However, it sounds like your experience is so recent, and your feelings are still so raw, that you may not have had time to arrive at such a resolve? Maybe you will find this resolve as I write this. Or, it is not unusual for men to get screwed over by women yet then continue to have hope to try again in the future for an emotional relationship with a woman. You will have to let us know in this Intro thread if you are making the declaration of which I speak or if you are not ready for it at this time. Which way are you on this? Which way are you going?

If you are making the declaration, then make it here and please read the sticky and respond to all that is asked by points #2 and #3. Then, we can process your Intro for membership.

Our members may post comments in this Intro thread for you to read, no matter which way you go.

Thank you.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Hi Uhn,

Thank you for reaching out to us with your experience. Yes, this is a place where men share what has happened to each of us. You were married for 3 years and I infer for your opening remark that you are a parent by now?

I also infer that you are brand new to MGTOW as a response to these experiences with women. Which means you are likely not familiar with terms such as "blue pill" and "red pill", among other terms common to MGTOW and the manosphere.

I would be remiss as Admin if I didn't mention that registrants on our site must do an Intro that conforms with our How To Intro sticky found in the New Member Intros sub-forum. We all had to do one. In that sticky, there are three numbered points of discussion to which new registrants must successfully respond in order to be accepted for membership here as "red pill". Your post thus far has satisfied #1 of the three discussion points.

The sticky's point #2 includes you making a declaration that you have sworn off all future emotional relationships with women. This declaration is necessary to remain a registered member here. Typically, we find that men make this declaration of their own accord before they register on our site. However, it sounds like your experience is so recent, and your feelings are still so raw, that you may not have had time to arrive at such a resolve? Maybe you will find this resolve as I write this. Or, it is not unusual for men to get screwed over by women yet then continue to have hope to try again in the future for an emotional relationship with a woman. You will have to let us know in this Intro thread if you are making the declaration of which I speak or if you are not ready for it at this time. Which way are you on this? Which way are you going?

If you are making the declaration, then make it here and please read the sticky and respond to all that is asked by points #2 and #3. Then, we can process your Intro for membership.

Our members may post comments in this Intro thread for you to read, no matter which way you go.

Thank you.

Marriage is dead, I'm sorry you had to find out the hard way, perhaps we can help you understand other things that are dead closely related to modern women, in fact, you're standing in a graveyard and may not see the full extent of it while standing in the lowlands and the fog that obscures its full dimension.

We don't accept rinse and repeat members willing to martyr themselves on the alter again, we are monodirectional and not looking back, instead we look forward with lots of personal optimism.

We don't want men coming here just to bleed because they cut themselves again and again, we've seen that flick too many times and don't enjoy it on reruns, it's like watching a fool run in circles.

Hello Sir.

Thank you for reaching out - first of all, your story is heart-breaking! I very much sympathise with the position in you are currently in, but it is temporary. You are angry, confused, and don't know what the hell is happening.

I was like you when I first joined.

But, please, you have to give a more detailed intro about your relationships with other women, about how men in general, or you as a man have suffered under the current gynocentric system.

Which country do you live in? Sounds like the US?

Also about you personally, where did you grow up? What were your parents like? What are your hobbies? What is your life philosophy? Anything you currently read? Any observations you have made about male-female relationship dynamics.

A long list, yes, but hitting a few of these nails on the head would suffice!

We look forward to hearing more from you.

No response yet from Uhn. PM sent.

>You were married for 3 years and I infer for your opening remark that you are a parent by now?
No, I'm not a parent. It's probably the reason why I'm divorced. I wanted children, she loves her career more.
Not trying to sound bitter about it but it was her idea to get the abortion. I was against it. Maybe I should have
put that in my first post. Apologies. The first month of this year was horrifying to me.
>I also infer that you are brand new to MGTOW as a response to these experiences with women.
I found a MGTOW reference on 4chan a few months ago and chased it down. There was some content on youtube that encouraged me
to dig a little further. At this point I'm trying to reorient my life and figure out the next step. I guess this is the brainstorming phase so I'm opening
up to new ideas and keeping women at a distance so I can figure things out for myself. I know there are many variations of red pill, blue pill ideas.
I've seen plenty of memes over the years, so I get the basics. From what I gather so far, red pill on this site means "I know what women are up to
and I'm having none of it." If that is a decent enough approximation, then yes. I was force fed a red pill.

>...making a declaration that you have sworn off all future emotional relationships with women.
Does grieving for my aborted daughter count against Requirement #2? Because I don't think that amount of grief will ever go away. I would have done
anything for her and now I can't. I buried a fetus who looked just like her mother. Her mother killed her. I loved them both.
WTF?
What do?

#2 is a pretty difficult requirement, tbh. The vast majority of any relationship to a woman is strictly emotional in their pov. Whether anyone likes this or not
is irrelevant to the woman since that's her world view. If I may point out a distinction here which is subtle but valuable it could be of some small use.
>A man can have a relationship with a woman, but not without risk of involving Law and inevitable interaction in Law.
>A man can have a relationship to a woman in which the man does not bond emotionally or financially to the woman or the Law.
I can't tell you anything about a fathers' relationship to his daughter because my daughter is dead. Her mother killed her.

I am in doubt as to whether I could fulfill the second requirement. Sorry for the reddit spacing, I'm sorting things out as I write this.

Do I hate women?
How can I hate what I fail to comprehend? I've never killed a man. My ex wife killed our daughter.
It's legal.
How is that possible?

.Uhn

done.

Originally Posted by Uhn

done.

Done, as in done with your response? Or done with us?

Either way, you are obviously still figuring out yourself and you did indicate you could not yet swear off emotional relationships with women, along with your dissection of our request on that. You'd know if you were certain. You'd know.

I'm sorry you are going through this. You have experienced first-hand the hypergamous nature of women.

If you should someday get fed up with chasing the unicorns and decide to stop that and instead Go Your Own Way, feel free to return here and register with another Intro showing the resolve that you could not show here today.

In the mean time, you can post in our Nonmember Questions and Opposing Views sub-forum where our members can chat with you. The site itself is still available for you to read.

Good luck.

Account closed.

it says it all when he mentions that he wanted to be a good father. There is no mgtow who I know of that is genuinely on his own way that even dreams of fatherhood - the system enslaved men even in the traditional sense, why would you sign cup to fatherhood after that?

It is literally a war out there and were are already enslaved to our managers and sopceity at large, and you want another persons i.e "your" wife to enslave you? makes no logical sense.

Originally Posted by Opaque

it says it all when he mentions that he wanted to be a good father. There is no mgtow who I know of that is genuinely on his own way that even dreams of fatherhood - the system enslaved men even in the traditional sense, why would you sign cup to fatherhood after that?

It is literally a war out there and were are already enslaved to our managers and sopceity at large, and you want another persons i.e "your" wife to enslave you? makes no logical sense.

Mouse Utopia (human application).