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    Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    1. Relationship history.I am a wizard.

    Across my lifetime I have kissed once, held hands twice. Once my fella's gf laid her head on my shoulder when we were sitting next to each other and she had passed out from drinking. Once time my female acquiantance was touching my hand and arm excessively while we were drinking at the grill. Other time another one was ouching my knees under the table while drinking at the bar. There have been some girls hitting at me during my uni days, but I was not interested. There was one woman literally spoon-feeding herself to me when I lived and worked on emigration, due to her emotional distress after a breakup. I was not interested either. I have tried to court one female from the university, but failed, then some time later tried my luck with a cashier at the local market, at which I failed too.

    There was one instance, when I was 21, where I was visitting some Internet acquiantaces met through the multiplayer game with my fella in another city. Surprisingly, the greeting commitee which was one of the gamers and his sister. As we were drinking more and more vodka across the evening, she was leaning into me more and more. When my fella passed out, we carried him to the room where we were staying and dropped on the couch. I entered my sleeping bag which wason the floor and was about to sleep myself, while this girl came some few minutes later and slid her legs into my sleeping bag. One thing went to another, I had kissed for the first time in my life, went to 2nd base, etc. She said she just wanted to cuddle then, and that we would have sex the following night. Next day I got mega intoxicated on alcohol in the club like an amateur, and when the moment came later on at the house and everyone had left, the balony pony would not stand up due to the stress and being drunk af. I put the condom I have got from my fella earlier on limp balony pony, the came some realtively short time after, not having put it inside her va-jay-jay, then left too drunk to be even embarassed. This is quite possibly the greatest cringe scenario of my life.

    2. Awareness: your previous blue pill perspectives, how you transitioned to red pill, with enough detail about what brought you to MGTOW.

    I used to be programmed by my friends and environment (raised mainly by my mother; father would stay away for long periods due to his job in another city) to be a simp with interweaving periods where some PUAs would try to make me pursue lust at all cost as it was a new trend due to the Sexual Revolution making greater and greater strides in my country. When I lived on emigration in my mid 20s, I met a very devout Christian fella with whom I became friends and we prayed together and read the Holy Bible a lot. I think it was then, when I understood, that it was better to live alone, than with wrong person for the wrong reasons. I became aware of the demise of principles in modern world especially when it came to morality and customs in inter-human relations.At the same time, I knew, that a true Christian could never be alone if they believed in God. This is what made me a MGTOW, even though I did not know the terminology at the time. Some time later I saw it gaining interest on Reddit, which I had account at for some time, did quite a bit of research on the Internet on the Sexual Revolution and alike and ultimatley solidified myself as a MGTOW, with an intention to become a monk and battle lust completely.

    3. Who you are: tell us a little bit of who you are. What you like, what you do, etc.


    My name is Kris, I am 30 years old. I am still a student, due to my emigration I have had quite a long break between Bachelor's and Master's Course. I am finishing off my Master's Thesis. Due to the realization of how hopeless the world has become due to Sexual Revolution, I have fallen into depression, which I have been treating myself on 2+ years now. My parents, my psychiatrist and first and foremost God are the things that still keep me alive. I am quite literally at my lowest point in life, but I want to get out of this and become a successful MGTOW monk, which can control lust. I have been a PMO addict ever since I was about 14 and it has had a bad impact on my life. I want to get rid of it. As concerns women, I am completelly certain, that unless she is a Christian virgin and agrees to prenuptial agreement/separation of property and right to do DNA test for parenthood at birth, it is by no means worth it.

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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    Quote Originally Posted by The_Abyss_Carrier View Post
    1. Relationship history.I am a wizard.

    Across my lifetime I have kissed once, held hands twice. Once my fella's gf laid her head on my shoulder when we were sitting next to each other and she had passed out from drinking. Once time my female acquiantance was touching my hand and arm excessively while we were drinking at the grill. Other time another one was ouching my knees under the table while drinking at the bar. There have been some girls hitting at me during my uni days, but I was not interested. There was one woman literally spoon-feeding herself to me when I lived and worked on emigration, due to her emotional distress after a breakup. I was not interested either. I have tried to court one female from the university, but failed, then some time later tried my luck with a cashier at the local market, at which I failed too.

    There was one instance, when I was 21, where I was visitting some Internet acquiantaces met through the multiplayer game with my fella in another city. Surprisingly, the greeting commitee which was one of the gamers and his sister. As we were drinking more and more vodka across the evening, she was leaning into me more and more. When my fella passed out, we carried him to the room where we were staying and dropped on the couch. I entered my sleeping bag which wason the floor and was about to sleep myself, while this girl came some few minutes later and slid her legs into my sleeping bag. One thing went to another, I had kissed for the first time in my life, went to 2nd base, etc. She said she just wanted to cuddle then, and that we would have sex the following night. Next day I got mega intoxicated on alcohol in the club like an amateur, and when the moment came later on at the house and everyone had left, the balony pony would not stand up due to the stress and being drunk af. I put the condom I have got from my fella earlier on limp balony pony, the came some realtively short time after, not having put it inside her va-jay-jay, then left too drunk to be even embarassed. This is quite possibly the greatest cringe scenario of my life.
    2. Awareness: your previous blue pill perspectives, how you transitioned to red pill, with enough detail about what brought you to MGTOW.

    I used to be programmed by my friends and environment (raised mainly by my mother; father would stay away for long periods due to his job in another city) to be a simp with interweaving periods where some PUAs would try to make me pursue lust at all cost as it was a new trend due to the Sexual Revolution making greater and greater strides in my country. When I lived on emigration in my mid 20s, I met a very devout Christian fella with whom I became friends and we prayed together and read the Holy Bible a lot. I think it was then, when I understood, that it was better to live alone, than with wrong person for the wrong reasons. I became aware of the demise of principles in modern world especially when it came to morality and customs in inter-human relations.At the same time, I knew, that a true Christian could never be alone if they believed in God. This is what made me a MGTOW, even though I did not know the terminology at the time. Some time later I saw it gaining interest on Reddit, which I had account at for some time, did quite a bit of research on the Internet on the Sexual Revolution and alike and ultimatley solidified myself as a MGTOW, with an intention to become a monk and battle lust completely.

    3. Who you are: tell us a little bit of who you are. What you like, what you do, etc.


    My name is Kris, I am 30 years old. I am still a student, due to my emigration I have had quite a long break between Bachelor's and Master's Course. I am finishing off my Master's Thesis. Due to the realization of how hopeless the world has become due to Sexual Revolution, I have fallen into depression, which I have been treating myself on 2+ years now. My parents, my psychiatrist and first and foremost God are the things that still keep me alive. I am quite literally at my lowest point in life, but I want to get out of this and become a successful MGTOW monk, which can control lust. I have been a PMO addict ever since I was about 14 and it has had a bad impact on my life. I want to get rid of it. As concerns women, I am completelly certain, that unless she is a Christian virgin and agrees to prenuptial agreement/separation of property and right to do DNA test for parenthood at birth, it is by no means worth it.

    Hi Kris aka The_Abyss_Carrier,

    Thank you for your Intro. I appreciate your mindful attention to our Intro format as you have nicely sectioned your responses. As I read through it, I was wondering if you were now an involuntary celibate but it appears that your celibacy is voluntary.

    You have indicated that you have "solidified myself as a MGTOW". We have learned that the term "MGTOW" has, over time, somehow become a loose definition in the thinking of some people and I never know which people they are, so I read carefully for the indications. A man is considered going his own way when he solidly will no longer have emotional relationships with women, does not have hopes for that, and also would refuse a woman who tries to initiate one. As I read your Intro and your desire to control lust and become a monk, I was looking for how you define MGTOW for yourself.

    It was your very last sentence that told me:

    As concerns women, I am completelly certain, that unless she is a Christian virgin and agrees to prenuptial agreement/separation of property and right to do DNA test for parenthood at birth, it is by no means worth it.
    Unless. You have carved yourself an exception. Here, you do retain hopes for an emotional relationship with a woman, including marriage. Here, you have shown me that you are one of the people who have adopted a loose definition of MGTOW. You are not "solidly MGTOW". You are not MGTOW, friend. If you were, there would be no exceptions. MGTOW are unequivocal on this.

    Many blue pill men have been made wise about the ways of women, often from learning about MGTOW, and these men have become more selective in the type of women with whom they will allow to form an emotional relationship. These men are not red pill. They are men who want women but want them to pass a more stricter criteria, thanks to MGTOW. They are not going their own way, they are going the same old way but with restrictions. If anything, they are purple pill, a man with red pill knowledge and blue pill hopes. These purple pill men are not MGTOW, even if they believe that of themselves. They are abusing the term.

    This site is for men who are unequivocal, having no carved exceptions. We are MGTOW. There is no sliding scale. At some future day, when you are also unequivocal with no carved exceptions, you can re-register here and your Intro will reflect it.

    Good luck to you.

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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    What's this "My fella" shit about?

    Sounds a bit gay/trans to me, but what do I know? I'm just an oul lad these days and current terminology often confounds me.
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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    What's this "My fella" shit about?

    Sounds a bit gay/trans to me, but what do I know? I'm just an oul lad these days and current terminology often confounds me.
    In his context, I saw it as a synonym for "buddy". My buddy, etc. There was also "baloney pony"! LOL

    For lurkers reading this, there are MGTOW in the manosphere who are gay.
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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    What is it with the blue?

    Where's the yellow and red?

    It's almost over...

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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    What is it with the blue?
    He copy/pasted from our How To Intro sticky where the three numbered topics appear there in blue font. Each time I copy/paste that stuff into an Intro, I have to purposely turn off the color after each paste or it carries over into my own text. I am sure that a newbie isn't yet familiar with these options in the composition window. They may not even realize it. I've considered editing the color in the newbie Intro, but I leave it alone. Triple-spacing and all, when that occurs. In some instances, unorthodox formatting informs me as to the registrants' level of connectivity to other people.
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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    In his context, I saw it as a synonym for "buddy". My buddy, etc. There was also "baloney pony"! LOL

    For lurkers reading this, there are MGTOW in the manosphere who are gay.
    Just for the record, I've nothing against gays. I just wanna know what I'm reading.
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    Re: Kris, 30, M, Poland [Monk wannabe]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Just for the record, I've nothing against gays. I just wanna know what I'm reading.
    I already know that about you. I'm always concerned about how reactions can be misinterpreted for the way they are expressed, so I added my comment for the lurkers. I know you know what I mean because you astutely commented about that in a recent post. Thanks for clarifying for all.
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