Thread: Just an intro

Hello everyone, I'll try to make this intro as succinct as possible. I'm arranging it the way jagrmeister described in his sticky post.

1. Relationship wise I only have a little bit of experience, but enough to have a general working-experience understanding of intergender relations. I'm 23 and have had a few very brief flings in high school, one long distance relationship that spanned about 3 months, and finally one long term relationship my senior year that spanned 1 1/2 years until I broke up with her because she was irritating and I came to grips that "commitment" was something I definitely didn't want.

I do want to point out that the loneliest period of my life (so far) has been during that time I was with the LTR, and that taught me a lot about myself and how I relate to women (which is abysmal.) After that I've had a few one night stands from being at bars and (barely) using date apps, again these were hardly anything to mention besides short term lust for each other and sudden ghosting. I haven't been in a relationship since I was 19 and haven't had sex for a long time due to my area having a shortage of anything bang-able.

2. Awareness-wise I feel like I've been very fortunate. While I'm always still learning, my father has always been very "red-pilled" himself and I was able to see his marriage break down due to the unhinged nature of women (his one mistake.) I learned very early on that there was nothing to be gained from marriage and everything to lose, while also seeing fellow acquaintances and friends have pitfalls of their own and becoming plantation-property for their GF's. I've even had two acquaintances I've known since high school get wrapped up in false-rape accusations (one of the accusers of which tried getting with me beforehand!) All the more the reason I've avoided relations to women.

I've always been quite the lone-wolf but feel happy and 'natural' in this state. I don't use Facebook or any other social media nonsense unless that purpose would be to create a business or band page that would actually benefit me. Social media is almost entirely partisan to catering to women's egos and I don't support any of that with my short period of time on this planet. Probably the most pivotal moment in becoming "aware" was reading "The Rational Male" around the time I was 18-19 years old. While a lot of the material was stuff I had already known prior, it was a great reference book that grounded my knowledge in situations where I wasn't 100% aware of how I should approach things. Definitely saved my hide a few times...

3. Who am I? Well that's probably the hardest question to answer due to my extremely private and introverted nature. I can tell you that I have a strong passion for computers, programming, modding games, music (industrial, metal/rock, classical, electronic, ambient, OST) reading (Stephen C. Pepper, Douglas Hofstadter, Robert Green, Rollo Tomassi, Illimitable Male, etc.), working out, and philosophy. I'm trying to get a job down in web-development or something akin to it so I can generally avoid working with women (of which I had to in retail, pure unadulterated hell). I've come here to find like-minded people that I can have a fulfilling conversation with and hopefully learn new things in the process.



Hopefully I made this introduction adequate and easy to read. If you have any further questions ask away.

Hi JustAGuy,

How did you hear about MGTOW as a movement or maybe specifically this website?

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Hi JustAGuy,

How did you hear about MGTOW as a movement or maybe specifically this website?

My memory is a bit vague when and where I found MGTOW specifically. I used to frequent ReturnofKings, RooshV, and the red pill sub-reddit forum a couple of years ago and probably stumbled upon the specific term around there. In a way I've always been MGTOW even if I didn't know the term/culture itself. Always had rather esoteric interests and the idea of catering or making myself a disposable commodity to a woman never seemed appealing. I found this forum by googling MGTOW forums that weren't MGTOW. com because there's work being done on it.

I also like the structure of this site as it seems more "personable," unlike say Reddit.

^To clarify, I'm not a big fan of PUA even though I used to lurk RooshV. I like to read different viewpoints and ideas even if I don't always agree with them.

Meh - ticks the boxes, I guess. I'm not getting a strong sense of who this guy is, tho.

JAG - I always like to hear a story. I'd like to hear you relate an incident, tell me something that happened, something to do with the whole red-pill/mgtow deal. Probably an incident from your dad's marriage breakdown, but maybe something that one of those ONStands did or said stuck in your memory. Something in particular, if you can, a memory that's meaningful.

Originally Posted by Mr Wombat

Meh - ticks the boxes, I guess. I'm not getting a strong sense of who this guy is, tho.

JAG - I always like to hear a story. I'd like to hear you relate an incident, tell me something that happened, something to do with the whole red-pill/mgtow deal. Probably an incident from your dad's marriage breakdown, but maybe something that one of those ONStands did or said stuck in your memory. Something in particular, if you can, a memory that's meaningful.

Fair enough,

Well back to my first post, I've been fortunate enough to be pretty aware of the way women operate from reading red pill forums and the like (for a couple of years now), so I've managed to mitigate a lot of mistakes guys normally make and don't have too many "beta-pilled disaster stories" to tell.

I can think specifically of a time back at the tail-end of my relationship with the LTR of 1 1/2 years. She was always very clingy, would tell me she loved me all the time, etc. Then one day out of nowhere she told me she had a great time "hanging with two of her guy friends" over a text message. This was after a very brief and minor fight over something I forget (I think because I hadn't seen her in awhile), so immediately my head went to she probably had a threesome and I put a lot of distance towards her after that. These thoughts were accentuated from the fact she didn't seem to want to have sex anymore afterwards (not like that was fun to begin with). So I was with her a few weeks after that, she still said she loved me and at this point I had grown totally apathetic towards her.

Soon enough she gave me the "I think we should see other people for awhile and I've been talking to someone else" text and I pretty much agreed on the spot and called her a whore. She was obviously upset and said something along the lines of "Well at least I told you before I did anything with them OK!" and I said "Whatever you say...." And of course, the night before she told me she loved me LOL.

At the time I wasn't surprised as prior to that she messed with me *while* she was still with her ex BF, so I knew it would inevitably happen to me. Funnily enough, 2 years after we broke up she sends me numerous texts out of nowhere asking what I'm doing and if I could get together with her. Out of curiosity and nothing to do I accepted and we caught up about a mile from my house at some bowling alley and bar. I noticed she was a bit too touching and later in the night she broke down at the bar and told me she wanted me back and that "other guys didn't compare." This was bad cause she was sobbing and making a scene out of this so I had to bring her outside where she kept asking me if we could get back together. I tried to be as nice as I could about the situation but my answer was obviously "no" and I left and haven't spoken to her since.

That situation alone reminded me why I haven't had a GF since lmao. While I did break up with her because she was also clingy and irritating, that's the full story of that situation. They can always immediately dump you out of nowhere even when they just told you they loved you. Why should you ever 'commit' in that case? She even claimed she was a virgin when she got with me and has been with several guys since then.

A monkey branching psycho story. Wish someone read these to me at bedtime when I was young, would have saved a lot of misery.

Hi JustAGuy,

You come across as very sincere, thank you. However you are still quite young and I wonder if you are fully committed to the MGTOW lifestyle or are exploring options.

My reason for this is you say in your O.P.:

I haven't been in a relationship since I was 19 and haven't had sex for a long time due to my area having a shortage of anything bang-able.

So, if there did happen to be ‘bang-able’ females around would you consider getting into another relationship? Bearing in mind of course that there is no disconnect between being MGTOW and having sex.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Hi JustAGuy,

You come across as very sincere, thank you. However you are still quite young and I wonder if you are fully committed to the MGTOW lifestyle or are exploring options.

My reason for this is you say in your O.P.:



So, if there did happen to be ‘bang-able’ females around would you consider getting into another relationship? Bearing in mind of course that there is no disconnect between being MGTOW and having sex.

My first thought to a relationship is a resounding "no" and has been for a couple of years now, though I can understand opinions change even when it's unlikely. When I look back, there was nothing I gained from relationships and all I have now is lost time that I could have spent bettering myself. The ego-boosts and feelings of intimacy have always temporary for me.

I do live next to a major city/college town so I can and have gotten a "bang-able" ONS when/if I wanted. The problem is the crime rates pretty high around there, I don't like dealing with the bar scene, and I got into a nasty fight last time I was around there... so I've been put off going back but the option for that does exist. My immediate hometown is a different story however, it's as dry as the Savannah desert but at least it's not high risk. I never chase for a ONS and they've always approached me first, I always make sure to use a nickname as well when associating.

When it comes to marriage, that is one thing I can say for absolutely certain I do not want to take part in. No matter what happens, there is nothing in it for me and everything to lose. Personally it hurts a lot more to see friends and acquaintances go into relationships/marriages and see them become shells of their former selves. Not to mention having to deal with their spouses either coming on to you to intentionally mess up your friendship, or telling your friend that you're a bad influence on them and can't be associated with. It's one thing to have gone your own way and deal with them as little as possible on your end, it's another when you have to deal with them for your friends sake.

Besides all that, I'm still trying to move out which is another reason I've gone pretty much ghost since women cost so much damn money. I may write about some experiences with friends-gfs on here too, especially since I have to deal with them this weekend.

Hmmm..... they will fuck you over for every last penny. Even if you had some extra cash steer clear - nothing good can come out of being near them

^^^^WORD!

Originally Posted by Warfish

Hmmm..... they will fuck you over for every last penny. Even if you had some extra cash steer clear - nothing good can come out of being near them

Agreed, I never let women know how much money I make or keep. As soon as they ask I always jokingly tell them something low paying like "garbage man" so they can get the hell away. I have an IRL friend I go out with sometimes that has a tendency to "peacock" and attract the most undesirable of undesirables. Around those types, I double down to "I live in a shopping cart near the dumps."

Originally Posted by JustAGuy

When it comes to marriage, that is one thing I can say for absolutely certain I do not want to take part in.

Well, that makes it clear.

I may write about some experiences with friends-gfs on here too, especially since I have to deal with them this weekend.

What are "friends-gfs" ? Or, here's the question for you to please answer that can put it all to rest:

Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or a wife?

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or a wife?

DAYUMMM!



Seriously! That's not only related to our stamp forged MGTOW core, it's the fuel that drives male despotism!

The more men "hope", clambering onto "dreams", while "reality" is an inferno, the more it enables and drives the entire gynocentric machine!

We've been steadily backed into the corner of resolve! And it's NOT based in "HOPE" or "DREAMS", it based in the god damned fucking reality where masculinity is BECOMING EXTINCT!

Hopes, dreams, and butterflies are not the reality I see! Gynocentrism be the law of the land and that law applies to men!

MGTOW DISABLES:

1. Hypergamy

2. Divorce rape/divorce industry

3. Female privilege

4. Manipulation

5. Drama

6. Child support

7. Disease

8. False accusations

9. Premature death

10. Incarceration

MGTOW ENABLES:

1. Masculinity

2. Independence

3. liberty

4. justice

5. Sovereignty

6. Direction

7. Destination

8. reward

9. Most of all, FREEDOM FROM TYRANNY!

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Well, that makes it clear.




What are "friends-gfs" ? Or, here's the question for you to please answer that can put it all to rest:

Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or a wife?

Sorry I worded that funny, when I said "friends-gfs" I meant "my friends girlfriends." I do not have "female friends," if there even is such a thing.

I do not have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, that thought died a long time ago.

Originally Posted by mgtower

DAYUMMM!

mgtower, ok that was a picture I understood! LOL

Originally Posted by JustAGuy

Sorry I worded that funny, when I said "friends-gfs" I meant "my friends girlfriends." I do not have "female friends," if there even is such a thing.

I do not have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, that thought died a long time ago.

Thank you again for the concise response and... welcome!

Welcome J A G !

bienvenidos!

Hi Just A Guy.

I would like to welcome you. I was curious that you say you are very much introverted and would like to know how you handle situations where you have to be social. Are you able the have normal interactions with people without coming off as awkward?

The reason I ask is that I am also introverted and although I can pass as "normal" if you will, I very much feel like most people are fake and I'm almost two-faced to an extent. I hate having to be fake around people but sometimes in this world, I don't see any alternative.