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    Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    I have known about MGTOW for a long time, but it wasn't until recently that I have identified with it. Following (another, but by far the worst) abusive "relationship", I finally began to truly digest the Red Pill and wake up to what women are. When I say "women", I'm not just talking about the women I've dated in my adult life. This includes every woman in my family, right down to my mom. I was essentially raised to seek abuse and view it as normal, regardless of how hurtful it was. I didn't start connecting these dots until this year (with the help of a therapist), but now that I have, I am overcome with a lot of bitterness, resentment, anger, and outright avoidance of women. I've cut myself off from my "family" and "friends" and am pretty much a hermit at this point.

    I'm 32. I have education and career prospects that are actually quite nice. I am tall, square jaw, wide shoulders, etc. I see how women look at me. But I don't have anything for them. I don't want anything to do with them. They see some tall attractive man, but the truth is that I'm a mess. I was dealt some really shitty cards and I need a lot of therapy. I don't see much of a reason to deal with women at all anymore, especially since I have to literally heal from damage done by women who don't even care or acknowledge that damage was done. Especially since, as a man, I should be a towering block of dick and stone without emotions or thoughts. "Women don't care about men's struggles, they wait at the finish line and fuck the winners", to quote Richard Cooper.

    Fair enough...

    Now stay tf away from me.

    I'll see you's at the finish line, I guess.

    I just want to focus on myself, my healing, and maybe one day I can actually have some semblance of normalcy and fulfillment in my life. I expect to learn a lot from everyone here and I'm grateful to have a forum that won't shame me for choosing MGTOW. A group of men discussing men. It's what I need.

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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lupercal! View Post
    I have known about MGTOW for a long time, but it wasn't until recently that I have identified with it. Following (another, but by far the worst) abusive "relationship", I finally began to truly digest the Red Pill and wake up to what women are. When I say "women", I'm not just talking about the women I've dated in my adult life. This includes every woman in my family, right down to my mom. I was essentially raised to seek abuse and view it as normal, regardless of how hurtful it was. I didn't start connecting these dots until this year (with the help of a therapist), but now that I have, I am overcome with a lot of bitterness, resentment, anger, and outright avoidance of women. I've cut myself off from my "family" and "friends" and am pretty much a hermit at this point.

    I'm 32. I have education and career prospects that are actually quite nice. I am tall, square jaw, wide shoulders, etc. I see how women look at me. But I don't have anything for them. I don't want anything to do with them. They see some tall attractive man, but the truth is that I'm a mess. I was dealt some really shitty cards and I need a lot of therapy. I don't see much of a reason to deal with women at all anymore, especially since I have to literally heal from damage done by women who don't even care or acknowledge that damage was done. Especially since, as a man, I should be a towering block of dick and stone without emotions or thoughts. "Women don't care about men's struggles, they wait at the finish line and fuck the winners", to quote Richard Cooper.

    Fair enough...

    Now stay tf away from me.

    I'll see you's at the finish line, I guess.

    I just want to focus on myself, my healing, and maybe one day I can actually have some semblance of normalcy and fulfillment in my life. I expect to learn a lot from everyone here and I'm grateful to have a forum that won't shame me for choosing MGTOW. A group of men discussing men. It's what I need.
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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    1. I didnt have my first sexual encounter until I was 21, and it was not good. I wasnt properly socialized, and I had ED due to chronic PMO. This has continued with every girl I try to date. I've been with about 15 women in my life, and they all ended up playing games, ghosting, etc. My last one I was with for 6 months and looking back, she was only using me. She ended up being a full blown narcissist, smearing me to others as she stalked me with fake profiles, numbers, etc to keep my mind in a prison while she moved on. This experience was honestly traumatizing, and after 8 months no contact (following a restraining order because she simply would not stop harassing me and hurting me) I am still not over it. At this point, I avoid women altogether. I won't even go down an aisle in the grocery store if I see a woman there. I left my last gym because a woman there was showing interest, which triggered jealousy in her male coworkers, which made me just not want to go anymore. The current gym I am a member of I haven't been back to since March because a woman that worked there tried to talk to me. I've more or less always had these avoidant behaviors, but they weren't this full blown until my most recent "ex". I am convinced she wanted me to kill myself so that she could be the victim and nobody would know about the abuse. I suspected BPD because of how she acted when I "tried" to break up with her, but whatever took over after that was more psychopathic than anything.

    Following this "relationship", I went back to therapy and learned that this pattern started in childhood. The childhood devoid of men but teeming with neglectful, abusive, selfish, toxic, violent, usury women. I wasn't aware of this until now, but coming to that realization has turned me off from women altogether. I've cut myself off from my toxic family, I've blocked all of my friends and deleted all of my social media. I go to work, I come home, I study for this certification or whatever. Trying to "better myself" and "move forward" even though the truth is I really don't want to or see the point in doing so anymore. But, whatever. "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do".

    I used to think that women were sweet, caring, and nurturing. That my family would be my wife and kids (LMFAO). I see now that women are inherently solipsistic, callous, irresponsible, shady, hypergamous, fickle, less-than-honorable, etc. None of these qualities interest me. Pussy isn't worth all of the other shit that comes with it. Relationships are basically caverns for the soon-to-be-damned. I was pretty blue-pilled, on top of that I'm nursing a mother wound that is and was excruciating. I've learned about male mother need recently and how it's basically a fantasy. Well, I guess I'm awake now because I don't want anything to do with women ever again. All they seem to want to do is destroy men. Especially now that I am at the age where children, property, and finances start to become more of a tangible target to women.

    I'm 32. Recently separated from the military. I'm pursuing a career in network engineering. I don't really like anything, honestly. Nothing seems worth the negativity inherent in this experience as a human being. At least not mine. I plan to start trauma-focused therapy soon, this time realizing that you truly get what you pay for. It may be expensive but it's better than "CBT" over and over again with no results. I've chosen to go MGTOW because the avoidance patterns are already there, as are the countless negative experiences with women that only continues to make the former worse. It seems like the logical thing to do at this point is to just give up on women entirely and see if there is something else that will bring normalcy and fulfillment to my life. To quote Barbarossa: "the juice ain't worth the squeeze".

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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lupercal! View Post
    1. I didnt have my first sexual encounter until I was 21, and it was not good. I wasnt properly socialized, and I had ED due to chronic PMO. This has continued with every girl I try to date. I've been with about 15 women in my life, and they all ended up playing games, ghosting, etc. My last one I was with for 6 months and looking back, she was only using me. She ended up being a full blown narcissist, smearing me to others as she stalked me with fake profiles, numbers, etc to keep my mind in a prison while she moved on. This experience was honestly traumatizing, and after 8 months no contact (following a restraining order because she simply would not stop harassing me and hurting me) I am still not over it. At this point, I avoid women altogether. I won't even go down an aisle in the grocery store if I see a woman there. I left my last gym because a woman there was showing interest, which triggered jealousy in her male coworkers, which made me just not want to go anymore. The current gym I am a member of I haven't been back to since March because a woman that worked there tried to talk to me. I've more or less always had these avoidant behaviors, but they weren't this full blown until my most recent "ex". I am convinced she wanted me to kill myself so that she could be the victim and nobody would know about the abuse. I suspected BPD because of how she acted when I "tried" to break up with her, but whatever took over after that was more psychopathic than anything.

    Following this "relationship", I went back to therapy and learned that this pattern started in childhood. The childhood devoid of men but teeming with neglectful, abusive, selfish, toxic, violent, usury women. I wasn't aware of this until now, but coming to that realization has turned me off from women altogether. I've cut myself off from my toxic family, I've blocked all of my friends and deleted all of my social media. I go to work, I come home, I study for this certification or whatever. Trying to "better myself" and "move forward" even though the truth is I really don't want to or see the point in doing so anymore. But, whatever. "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do".

    I used to think that women were sweet, caring, and nurturing. That my family would be my wife and kids (LMFAO). I see now that women are inherently solipsistic, callous, irresponsible, shady, hypergamous, fickle, less-than-honorable, etc. None of these qualities interest me. Pussy isn't worth all of the other shit that comes with it. Relationships are basically caverns for the soon-to-be-damned. I was pretty blue-pilled, on top of that I'm nursing a mother wound that is and was excruciating. I've learned about male mother need recently and how it's basically a fantasy. Well, I guess I'm awake now because I don't want anything to do with women ever again. All they seem to want to do is destroy men. Especially now that I am at the age where children, property, and finances start to become more of a tangible target to women.

    I'm 32. Recently separated from the military. I'm pursuing a career in network engineering. I don't really like anything, honestly. Nothing seems worth the negativity inherent in this experience as a human being. At least not mine. I plan to start trauma-focused therapy soon, this time realizing that you truly get what you pay for. It may be expensive but it's better than "CBT" over and over again with no results. I've chosen to go MGTOW because the avoidance patterns are already there, as are the countless negative experiences with women that only continues to make the former worse. It seems like the logical thing to do at this point is to just give up on women entirely and see if there is something else that will bring normalcy and fulfillment to my life. To quote Barbarossa: "the juice ain't worth the squeeze".
    Hi Lupercal!

    Well, I think you have convinced me that you are done with relationships with women!

    I don't really like anything, honestly.
    I infer, in context, that you are addressing our Point #3 about what activities/hobbies you enjoy.

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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    Sounds like you've been through the mill (and are still suffering because of it).

    Welcome to a world without women. This is the beginning of a new and better life for you.

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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    I believe honestly that MGTOW will help this poor man which it sounds like he needs if his past experience with women put him in therapy. Those women you grew up with told you that you should seek abuse as if it's normal? No it is NOT normal to be abused by anyone. Women say this kind of bullshit because they feel they have the right to manipulate, and destroy you and bully. I don't have any woman in my life since the age of 11 and life by myself and with my male friend (who I love like a brother) and my dad is the good life.

    I never had a relationship with a woman; not even a date. I became MGTOW because of my mom, aunts and cousins because of the way they treat me. They treat me like someone they can either bully, or control. I been MGTOW my whole life of nearly 39 years. I turned my confused male best friend (age 40) into a MGTOW because of both family and his employers and his sister-in-law that gives his older brother a life of hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    Those women you grew up with told you that you should seek abuse as if it's normal? No it is NOT normal to be abused by anyone.
    They didn't overtly tell me this, but they treated me in a way that primed me for abuse in adulthood because it's what is familiar. It's not like I recognize abuse and desire to have it in my life... it's more like I didn't really know what abuse was because that was the norm growing up. It really does suck because I essentially have to learn how to be a person from scratch at 32 years old. It's hard not to be resentful.

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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lupercal! View Post
    I essentially have to learn how to be a person from scratch at 32 years old.
    Boy, am I familiar with that. After I left home, I had to reshape myself. Well, first it took years to realize how poorly I had been shaped. Only then could I know what to do and that I needed to do it.
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    Re: Fleeing from the Ruinous Powers

    Quote Originally Posted by Lupercal! View Post
    I essentially have to learn how to be a person from scratch at 32 years old. It's hard not to be resentful.
    I also went through this, as I assume many of us did. It was very traumatic for me at the time – major depression, even questioning my own sanity at times: questioning almost everything I thought I knew; but once done it was like a weight was lifted. The clouds dispersed and left blue skies and sunshine in their wake.

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