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    My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    I was on mgtow.com back in 2017 getting my ass kicked over my obsession to have a child and treated as a liar for telling dramatic stories. I visited mgtow.com today and found an old message from Gargamel saying everyone had come here. Here I am. Hello again.

    I did father a child in 2019. The mom was Vietnamese, in America on a two-year green card based on marriage. She ditched her husband in 2018 and found me by Christmas that same year. I kinda sorta knew she might have been married, but I ignored that along with all the other lies, like her Tinder profile saying she was 34 when she was actually 40. After one night - New Years Eve of all nights - she got pregnant. I treated it as a miracle. We decided to give co-parenting a go. My son was born in September, and it really was a joyous moment. But she wanted to travel back to Vietnam to show off her little American boy. I refused. She reached out to her husband, and he started calling the cops in my state from a different state claiming I had kidnapped his wife, raped her, and forced her to have my child. At the same time, he was threatening to report her to ICE and have her deported without her child if she didn't come back to him. He traveled to my state and the two of them snuck to the Dept. of Health and amended the birth certificate naming him as the father. I was walking my dog at 8:00am, leaving baby and mother together, and when I got back, they were gone.

    I pieced together what had happened by reading her Gmail which was signed in on a computer I bought her to play WOW the whole time she was pregnant and living with me. The whole thing was a setup. The plan was to get child support out of me. It was a stupid scam that never would have worked, except on an even dumber simp. I rushed to court with an emergency Ex-parte motion and pleadings that were all granted by default because she never came back to appear in court. I've been ruled the father. However, bench warrants and court orders are useless. In Feb of 2020 she made it back to Vietnam with my son, right before the covid shutdowns. He'll be one year old in two weeks. There's little chance I'll ever see my son until he's a man and tries to figure out his origins and finds me.

    I hope this intro unlocks my ability to comment in the other discussions. The court system is criminal. Marriage laws are diabolical. Deeply blue-pilled men are dangerous when they are defending their world view and out for revenge. I think I can contribute to the discussions with knowledge based on my experience.

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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    Quote Originally Posted by ModR8 View Post
    I was on mgtow.com back in 2017 getting my ass kicked over my obsession to have a child and treated as a liar for telling dramatic stories. I visited mgtow.com today and found an old message from Gargamel saying everyone had come here. Here I am. Hello again.

    I did father a child in 2019. The mom was Vietnamese, in America on a two-year green card based on marriage. She ditched her husband in 2018 and found me by Christmas that same year. I kinda sorta knew she might have been married, but I ignored that along with all the other lies, like her Tinder profile saying she was 34 when she was actually 40. After one night - New Years Eve of all nights - she got pregnant. I treated it as a miracle. We decided to give co-parenting a go. My son was born in September, and it really was a joyous moment. But she wanted to travel back to Vietnam to show off her little American boy. I refused. She reached out to her husband, and he started calling the cops in my state from a different state claiming I had kidnapped his wife, raped her, and forced her to have my child. At the same time, he was threatening to report her to ICE and have her deported without her child if she didn't come back to him. He traveled to my state and the two of them snuck to the Dept. of Health and amended the birth certificate naming him as the father. I was walking my dog at 8:00am, leaving baby and mother together, and when I got back, they were gone.

    I pieced together what had happened by reading her Gmail which was signed in on a computer I bought her to play WOW the whole time she was pregnant and living with me. The whole thing was a setup. The plan was to get child support out of me. It was a stupid scam that never would have worked, except on an even dumber simp. I rushed to court with an emergency Ex-parte motion and pleadings that were all granted by default because she never came back to appear in court. I've been ruled the father. However, bench warrants and court orders are useless. In Feb of 2020 she made it back to Vietnam with my son, right before the covid shutdowns. He'll be one year old in two weeks. There's little chance I'll ever see my son until he's a man and tries to figure out his origins and finds me.

    I hope this intro unlocks my ability to comment in the other discussions. The court system is criminal. Marriage laws are diabolical. Deeply blue-pilled men are dangerous when they are defending their world view and out for revenge. I think I can contribute to the discussions with knowledge based on my experience.
    Hi Modr8,

    Wow, that is some situation. My nephew married a girl from the Philippines, brought her to the USA and had two kids with her before she ran off with another guy and left them all. My nephew got custody.

    To the matter of your Intro, you composed it before I could point you to our How to Intro sticky. It references three points of discussion which I now present to you here:


    1. Relationship history
    (experience with women, red pills, what about it made you made you aware; note- you don't HAVE to have had relationships but you can speak of your interactions with women) -- it turns out trolls don't have good, realistic stories of this ilk.


    You have satisfied this requirement, thank you.


    2. Awareness
    : your previous blue pill perspectives, how you transitioned to red pill, with enough detail about what brought you to MGTOW.

    You have explained how you learned of our site, thank you. However, you do not indicate that you have ceased being blue pill and have transitioned to red pill. As horrible as your situation is, other men have had bad things happen and then go on to have/seek/accept a relationship with another woman. They did not close that door. If you are still blue pill and just wanted to share your story then yes we are now in receipt of it. (Your Intro thread title suggests to me that you have urgency to get your story known, less clear in declaring MGTOW.) However, we are a red pill site. So, here are two questions designed to clarify where you now stand. Please answer each:

    2a) Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, or of having an emotional relationship with a woman?

    2b) If a woman wanted to have an emotional relationship with you, would you let it happen?


    3. Who you are
    : tell us a little bit of who you are. What you like, what you do, etc.

    Please offer here your current hobbies or activities.


    You should be able to make a new post in this same thread in response to these questions.

    Thank you,

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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    Hi Unboxxed, thanks for the quick reply.

    I submitted my intro before understanding the discipline exercised in this forum. Gargamel was right. You're no-nonsense. After reading many of your intro responses, I submitted a request to delete my account. I am NOT redpill. I joined to bread-board my tactics by soliciting opinions. I will answer the questions like a party crasher yelling over his shoulder as he's escorted out.

    I'm an idealistic chad, self-style as a Blacknight dispensing redpills on first dates like Spanish flies.

    It's either coincidental or you already googled me that you mentioned the Filipina your nephew bought with American citizenship. I have girlfriend in Manila 31 years my junior. We were cast on 90 Day Fiance: Before The 90 Days just before PI closed its borders and halted our first meetup. I check in with producers every week about my itinerary. I applied for that reality TV show to expose the story of my son and to bait his mom back to America. TLC either found it interesting or have me pegged and already scripting the next Big Ed character. It'll be good ratings either way. Meanwhile, my gf and I started a joint YouTube channel to keep the LDR interesting until travel resumes. We discuss age-gaps, cross-culture dating, and sugar-daddy/sugar-baby stereotypes. I'm learning Tagalog. I send her money for hair and nails, bought her an iPhone 11 Pro and loaned money for her dad to finish tyling the roof deck. I don't do sugar daddy. But quarantine in Manila is extreme and people are hurting. I'll start paying the rent on her mom's salon to keep it open until tourists come back and end with a stake in the business. I'm going to pay for her new glasses and to fix her broken front tooth. She sends me a long text every morning professing her love, promises to give me a dozen children, and be the world's best mom, along with wet pussy videos. I send her cumshot videos. We video sext while watching Pornhub "spank me daddy" categories. We both get emotional, especially when we fight because an ex DM'd me asking if there's any new news about my son. Before you roll your eyes, know this: Covid has changed the rules. Not MGTOW rules, but I already admitted I'm not MGTOW.

    That answers 2a - I have a girlfriend.

    The answer to 2b is also yes.

    I share a lot of emotions with my ex-wife. We own a business and there are some bad days at work. My now ex-mother in law recently fell in the shower and hit her head and had to get a craniotomy to relieve the hematoma. We weren't sure there was room in ICU with all the Covid patients but we were lucky. But she slips in and out of consciousness and still on a ventilator. The doctors need family to help revive her so they schedule choppy FaceTime visits. It's fucking sad. My ex-wife is a wreck. So yes, I emotionally support her, preparing her for the inevitable. It's called compassion, not passion. In turn, she helps me with my mom. My mother lives in an attached apartment to my house and has severe dementia. At 79 she thinks I'm her husband and constantly wants to fuck. My skin crawls every time she asks or grabs my ass. My only outlet is to vent to my ex and my gf. My guy friends can't handle such conversations.

    I'm 55. I slept with 49 women by 30 and married number 50. She joined my business and worked for free for 20 years and earned her partnership. In the second year of our marriage at 34 she got breast cancer, received treatment, went into early menopause, so natural parenting was off the table. I was severely depressed and ashamed but ignored it and focused on making money, buying property, and taking care of all the parents. When our fathers died and the moms declined, I asked myself what was the point of life. To me, then and still, the answer was having my own children. You know, what society promised me if I kept up my end of the bargain. Fuck society. I divorced my wife and replaced our relationship with a non-destructive, non-romantic partnership and started chasing twenty-somethings. Ironically the one who "gave" me a child was 40, and you already know where that stands.

    I code websites with MySQL database backends for custom business apps and manage employees who do IT support for Exchange and file servers. My newest employee is a woman. The clients like her and she's learning IT fast. But I'm at a point I hate my job and dream of publishing Sci-FI novels.

    I love VW Vanagons. I have three always in some state of break-down so my backup car is a 2nd Gen Audi R8. I'm one of the organizers of our local supercar club. We try to cruize once a month but it's been sporadic the last six months coz of Wuhan Flu.

    I was a dad for two months. I thought I couldn't love an infant, but my instincts were right. He is gorgeous with his German-Asian mix. It kills me when I use fake accounts to collect pics and videos the mom flexes on FB and IG. I want him back. I want to try again. I signed up because I know logically MGTOW is the solution if peace is a man's goal in today's mating ecosystem. But I can't reconcile MGTOW with my choice to survive through progeny. I realize I'm not going to receive any support for my stubbornness via an add from you nor comments if unmodded. I'm going to keep trying to build a nuclear family until I'm dead or killed in the process.

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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    Quote Originally Posted by ModR8 View Post
    I pieced together what had happened by reading her Gmail which was signed in on a computer I bought her to play WOW the whole time she was pregnant and living with me. The whole thing was a setup. The plan was to get child support out of me. It was a stupid scam that never would have worked, except on an even dumber simp. I rushed to court with an emergency Ex-parte motion and pleadings that were all granted by default because she never came back to appear in court. I've been ruled the father. However, bench warrants and court orders are useless. In Feb of 2020 she made it back to Vietnam with my son, right before the covid shutdowns. He'll be one year old in two weeks. There's little chance I'll ever see my son until he's a man and tries to figure out his origins and finds me.
    Don't see how the scam would have worked if she re-registered the kid as her husbands.
    Anyway, you came out of this a winner, it cost you no money, you didn't lose your house, and you can get an easy 5 year VISA to Vietnam for $50 as father of a Viet national.
    Make sure you get and keep a copy of the birth certificate, it's worth a lot if you ever want to visit Vietnam.

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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    Quote Originally Posted by ModR8 View Post
    I will answer the questions like a party crasher yelling over his shoulder as he's escorted out.


    Registrant misunderstood this site, stated is not red pill. Account closed.


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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    55 years old and hasn't learned yet?

    Hopeless...
    We are lawfully exiled by the alterations and changes made to this social compact called government, its body politic now cancerous and destructive to its own ends.

    A man is on his own, always was, always will be.

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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    Quote Originally Posted by ModR8 View Post
    I have girlfriend in Manila 31 years my junior. We were cast on 90 Day Fiance: Before The 90 Days just before PI closed its borders and halted our first meetup.

    That answers 2a - I have a girlfriend.
    Guy thinks a girl he hasn't met is his girlfriend .......... Holy fuck, you can't fix stupid!

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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    Lets not forget the importance of gun notches, after all when your priorities and ego-meter are vaginal related, the higher the number, the more you can shame the men around you by placing there manhood in question and getting an ego boost in the process, but that's only if your mind is still gynocentrically hardwired.

    It takes allot of courage to dig through your mind cutting and rewiring the circuitry more along the lines of instinct and natural harmony. He doesn't know he's been programmed and wired wrong, like a stoppering drunk stumbling into an AA meeting preaching that he's reformed after puking on the floor.

    He "shares" emotions with his "X-wife".

    This guy can't shake the shit off his boots because he took a shit in them the night before!

    If webs represented "strings attached", this guy is a fucking cocoon!

    P.S.

    His new name is Orbit.
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    Re: My baby-mama's husband kidnapped my son, and hello.

    It doesn't take too long to appropriately categorise people. You only need around 5 minutes or so.

    This ModR8 guy is one of the most gynocentric people to have ever graced our presence.

    He's also a liar and I suspect he has relationships issues, and attracts other liars and wasted people like the aforementioned Vietnamese wife.

    I must say, I am very glad such know-it-all types exist because someone needs to foot the bill for this gynocentric society - and ModR8 seems more than happy to do that.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

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    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

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