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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    LTMFB. Let the mo fo burn.

    Drink beer, eat popcorn and just sit and watch while it burns... but watch nonetheless...

    Point and laugh at spinsters crying "Oh, but where have all the GOOD MEN gone (now that we got kicked off the cock carousel for being too old/fat/ugly)?"

    Direct them to the "Cats and Dildos" store for spinsters.
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    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    I agree with the notion to let it burn, but have fun while it happens. Laws are so bad that it's gotten to the point that criticizing ghosts for being paranoid isn't even intellectually honest. Date a woman and she can name you the father of her bastard child, and the courts will not care if you are not the biological father. "Pay up!" they'll say. As much as I would like a relationship with a woman in an ideal world, in the actual world that we live in, women have overstayed their welcome in my life. The average woman may not have campaigned for the misandrist laws that are in place, but most of them believe these laws are just and support feminists. I don't care for men either. Men are more pleasant, more friendly, and are overall better people. But us men enable women all the time because too many of us can only think with our dicks. Look at Bill Burr. If you listen to his comedy, you'd think he's red pill. He talks about how horrible the laws are, including marriage and divorce laws, and he talks shit about women a lot in his stand-up and podcast episodes, but then he turns around and marries a black feminist. Us red pillers are mankind's only hope. People have turned this world to shit. Even if the laws were changed overnight, though, I don't think I could ever change how I look at women. If the only way to keep women from ripping their families apart is to incentivize them to keep the relationship going, then I don't know how anyone can argue that women are decent people.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Something to consider, if you're really antisocial? Why are you here?

    You are social, just not the way society expects.
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    I like my MGTOW brethren. And I like to bond with men over hobbies. Otherwise, I just kinda keep to myself. Forums like this are a godsend.
    I say fuck authority, silent majority. Raised by the system, now it's time to rise against them.
    We're sick of your treason, sick of your lies. Fuck no, we won't listen. We're gonna open your eyes.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    as of right now, we have a decently even split for those who chose to vote.

    had a couple more ideas.

    forum teamspeak for chatting, gaming, crisis intervention (talking a member out of going on a date)

    forum gets a youtube channel and we all post vlogs there. enough to build a queue of videos waiting to be broadcast. the current event vlogs get priority release, then we fill in with theory (talk on briffault's law). solo or team up. we could even turn some of our threads into vlogs.

    I enjoy reading a lot of what some of you say.. great content. get 2-3 of the best commentators together to make a vlog out the thread. some of you might develop a talent and also have your own private youtube channel, the next stardusk...

    youtube revenue pays for our teamspeak. and upgrades. and ... ???

    ps: my apologies to the ghosts, for suggesting we plug in more to the establishment
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Primus_Pilus View Post
    Something to consider, if you're really antisocial? Why are you here?

    You are social, just not the way society expects.
    This is commonly misused vernacular:

    Antisocial means someone who does what they want, to their own gain, with no regard for the rights or welfare of others.

    Asocial simply means you're "not social". It usually means you just have considerably less social contact than others. It can be a result of certain types of mental health issues, but often the cause is simply a person who prefers to spend more time alone. Introverts are often seen as being asocial compared to their extroverted social-butterfly counterparts.

    Big difference. When people call me "anti-social" I immediately correct them and tell them the difference between the terms.

    It's a very important difference.
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    I voted neutral; however, maybe there should be a subcategory for us married guys?
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Canis View Post
    I voted neutral; however, maybe there should be a subcategory for us married guys?
    You know, you have a point, seems to me. If there is a category for Bachelor, then how about a category for you, the opposite? Besides, then I won't have to keep a mental list of who is married on this site, to better comprehend their point of view when they don't mention it in their posts. The comments from married guys I find interesting because their conflict is current, not in the past like many others here.

    Ha, I think I just supported the idea of having these categories. What do ya know.
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Personally i do not do traditional dating and shit. I do want biological children in the future(but currently men do not have much rights when it comes to that) and i look for some woman between 15 and 17 for sex(15 is the legal age in sweden). I guess it will be very difficult for me to find a woman worthy of having children with but some sex usually don't hurt(the STD risk is low for young woman).

    However i never visit bars, i do not accept female friends(i recently banned a female skype contact due to friendzoning), never pay for dates(that would be pathetic).

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    So concisely...
    Bachelor... Collaborators partake
    Neutral... Philosophers think
    Ghost.. Monks do

    My current opinion of married mgtow. wife - marriage is a contract that can be broken. live-in gf - living arrangement that can be broken. couple - phone numbers can be deleted. it's just different levels of divorcing oneself from a woman. Since the turn of the century, I went no further than the 'delete from phone' option.
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by prostate-orgasm View Post
    Personally i do not do traditional dating and shit. I do want biological children in the future(but currently men do not have much rights when it comes to that) and i look for some woman between 15 and 17 for sex(15 is the legal age in sweden). I guess it will be very difficult for me to find a woman worthy of having children with but some sex usually don't hurt(the STD risk is low for young woman).

    However i never visit bars, i do not accept female friends(i recently banned a female skype contact due to friendzoning), never pay for dates(that would be pathetic).
    I love your user name. Not sure why, just can't seem to put my finger on it?

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    I think that myself and a lot of users here are echoing the same problem: that we don't neatly fit into these categories and if we end up just choosing the one that we like the most, (whether or not that choice is the most accurate). The display of that choice is rendered far less meaningful or even meaningless depending on how fluid that person's life is. I chose ghost but it's not a permanent choice for me; I wouldn't get it tattooed. A forum user might assign far too much meaning to that choice when reading my comments though.

    I see aspects of myself in all three categories. I go out to the bars and drink with friends from work (or great buddies from high school) and sometimes I date women, so it sounds like I'm a bachelor. But then again I'm prone to ghosting to save money for months at a time so I can buy a nice new toy (my newest plan is to buy a motorcycle and get my licensing) or when I'm dealing with things. I haven't dated since last October so while it's not impossible that I'll date again, and I feel pretty good about staying single but that could change. If I start dating again, I'd fully meet the requirements of bachelor because I'm pretty social in the summer particularly, and I'd be dating. I wouldn't be a ghost at all at that point(even if I thought that it was the safest choice to make). So depending on the circumstances the label can easily become outright wrong and then become right again.

    With something that is so fluid, displaying a category just seems useless. If you wanted my favourite colour it would be blue, and I'd feel pretty good about that choice (long term). With MGTOW types, not so much. That and there are already different forums in the Lounge for different interests.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    We are updating the forum structure. If you do the designation, it'd be great- I'd appreciate it, but not required. It's a work in progress; given the fluid nature of it- we may have some other ideas on how to customize the designation.

    The forum structure changes are the more important thing.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    I'm new here. Never posted; lurked around some and like that attitude and feel of the site.

    I'm not into women (so that may be a real problem for you guys here; I'll try to mind my "p's and q's" but have analyzed women over the years for all my straight male friends.

    And all my friends are straight males. I don't want to cause problems for you guys. I have the best of intentions but usually my opinion is "different" than most. I always try to be civil but will discuss anything.

    As to the topic of this thread, see what I just did? I introduced myself, who I am, where I'm "coming from" philosophically, and my intentions on the site.

    Instead of putting your labels on it, require an "introduction" paragraph and let the guys define themselves (although come to think of it that's still "more work" that's being "required" and men resist that.)

    The more someone stays in a structure, the more it "evolves". What starts out as few rules with little to no regulation becomes "more and more regulated" and more "structured with rules" over time.

    As I understand it, that goes against the whole concept of this site. If you are always looking for ways to "improve the site", you are never going to be satisfied. Just like men, "it is what it is" and should not be tampered with to "make it better".

    No offense to you my good Sir, but you're acting like a woman to your own site. Puttering with it and thinking about about how you can "improve it" to make it "better than it is".

    Well here's a concept:

    Let it be what it is and if it's flawed and contentious at times. . . . . well so be it.

    Isn't that the essence of guys anyway?

    So is life and the people on this site anyway. It's never going to be "perfect". Whatever you do, will only result in different issues that then "will have to be fixed". And then you're on an eternal quest for some ideal you will never find and always be dissatisfied instead of just enjoying the site for what it is.

    I suspect you guys will take care of any real problems before the site self-destructs so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by lsparli2 View Post
    I'm new here. Never posted; lurked around some and like that attitude and feel of the site.

    As to the topic of this thread, see what I just did? I introduced myself, who I am, where I'm "coming from" philosophically, and my intentions on the site.
    As soon as possible, you will want to head over to the sub-forum called "New Member Intros" and post your introduction there. That sub-forum is not new. Once there, read the Sticky called "How to Intro" which offers ideas on what to say to help other users to know you better. Your introduction there is a requirement before posting in the threads and a Moderator will advise you of this. I am not a Moderator but I am letting you know at this time.

    As far as experience with women, personally speaking I don't care if your battle scars with women are not identical to the battle scars of other men. There's a variety of experience here. If you are going your own way, that's cool.
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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by lsparli2 View Post
    I'm new here. Never posted; lurked around some and like that attitude and feel of the site.

    Instead of putting your labels on it, require an "introduction" paragraph and let the guys define themselves (although come to think of it that's still "more work" that's being "required" and men resist that.)
    Eh, no offense but I guess you didn't look around the whole forum then. There is a section called "New Member Intros" where new members are required to post a significantly lengthy post introducing themselves to the forum. This is required before one can post elsewhere.
    Since you haven't done that yet, I would get right on that as Unboxxed pointed out.

    Also as far as I know, this website accepts men of all orientations. There's at least two other non-straight members that I'm aware of.
    So welcome and get your intro in. Look forward to reading it.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prisoner View Post
    Jagr, I've been thinking about this subject for a few hours now. To be honest with you the more I think about it, the more I don't like it. Okay maybe adding some sub-forums may be good, however breaking apart the core of this site is not. Yes sometimes we disagree here, however anytime I've had someone disagree with me it was always respectful. It never took much for me to see and understand that the man disagreeing with me was actually trying to look out what he feels is best for me.

    Yes some of us ghost, some of us date, hell even a couple here are married. I'd never want to boot Indianajohn or make him feel welcomed because he is married, he offers too much to this forum. MGTOW's come from all walks of life and we all have different ways to deal with the world and woman. I know that a lot of men here get a lot from what I say. Likewise I get a lot from what you men say in this forum. Dividing the forum up will only serve to divide us up and this is not good. I don't want to hear an echo chamber of men feeling it is okay to date a woman long term. I want to here the guys saying to me "Hey if you move in with that woman it could end bad" or "Hey you might want to do this or that before moving in".

    If you want to add in more sub-forums then go right ahead, it is your site. However if you want my suggestion then I would say don't divide it up base on if a person is ghosting or dating. Add in other sub-forums for turning wrenches on cars, truck driving, bikers, fucking the neighbors dog, whatever. Okay maybe a confessions section that is not exactly living up to the MGTOW standards. You know for guys who did something stupid that is a bit embarrassing and can get feedback on it. However dividing it into Ghosting, Neutral, Bachelor sounds like a bad idea to me. Not just for this site, but for MGTOW as a whole. So Jagr, if you want my opinion on this subject, I would say it is a bad idea bro. Either way you want to handle it, I will back you. Just know that from one friend to another, I'm not in favor of it.
    I have to agree with above, why put labels on people. We are all here supporting the same thing, I just hope that this labeling does not cause problems. It just seems like a matter of time till someone posts something in one section and another poster starts saying it does not belong in that section it belongs in another. Like they say if it's not broke don't fix it, but I will just go with with the flow.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    I have to agree with above, why put labels on people.
    See Beija's post- it's optional. I think many Ghosts and Bachelors will find clear benefit from it. I posted on the newer stuck threads on this topic that there is also an Other category if people don't fall neatly into any 3.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Not sure what to do as I have traits of all 3.

    Ghost seems the most accurate for me.

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    Re: Suggested MAJOR Change to GYOW- Please Read

    Quote Originally Posted by Cap285 View Post
    Not sure what to do as I have traits of all 3.

    Ghost seems the most accurate for me.
    You can try to make a type like mine (Ghost + Bachelor = Ghochelor). I swing through periods of Ghosting and Bacheloring so I figured instead of having to change it every time I switch it up I just combined the two. I don't really fall into the neutral category at all.


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