Thread: Double Life?

Originally Posted by mgtower

It's just like the movie "invasion of the body snatchers" except it's minds they snatch and we have to be cautious because we don't know which ones are taken!

In the movie, the terrestrially possessed made a loud shrieking noise, not unlike a triggered Karen does when confronted by the normal.

The movie didn't end well, and I fear we're in for the same fate!

Just last as long as you can, sometimes that's all it takes to endure a deadly storm! Right now, society is at the point in this proverbial storm, where impaling objects are airborne!

I actually still need to see that movie. I get the general concept of it. It makes me think of John Carpenter's "The Thing".

You may be right that this is just a storm that needs to be weathered. At the end of the day, this backwards, bizzaro-world system will not last. The sheep exist to be eaten by the wolves.

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

I actually still need to see that movie. I get the general concept of it. It makes me think of John Carpenter's "The Thing".

You may be right that this is just a storm that needs to be weathered. At the end of the day, this backwards, bizzaro-world system will not last. The sheep exist to be eaten by the wolves.

Who's better than a man when it comes to weatherproofing? From ancient tar-pits for use as sealant, to pressurized vessels that blast into outer space then return safely wrapped tightly a cocoon of fire!

That reminds me, I have to give my life another coat of MGTOW ceramic fire proof paint, it's good to keep a few gallons laying around....

Today was especially hard today to remain in "Bruce Wayne mode". I had to bit my tongue on more than one occasion today. When I hear a coworker making remarks about how his group is "systemically descriminated against", I just want to go insane! Seriously?! You are a part of one of the most privelidged groups there are. Everyone makes excuses for your people on the regular but you still claim your group is descriminated against? Unreal!

There is a reason why I don't like most people and prefer to be alone.

My apologies for the mini-rant but I'm still annoyed by it.

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

My apologies for the mini-rant but I'm still annoyed by it.

It's good for the mental health to get things out.

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

Today was especially hard today to remain in "Bruce Wayne mode". I had to bit my tongue on more than one occasion today. When I hear a coworker making remarks about how his group is "systemically descriminated against", I just want to go insane! Seriously?! You are a part of one of the most privelidged groups there are. Everyone makes excuses for your people on the regular but you still claim your group is descriminated against? Unreal!

There is a reason why I don't like most people and prefer to be alone.

My apologies for the mini-rant but I'm still annoyed by it.

Alone? No, you're in the company of sane rational men of every ethnicity, and religion and theology throughout the western world.

Isolated, yes, alone, absolutely not! There's legions of us that see through all the bullshit and have commonsense coupled to discrimination to protect us. They want us to drop our guard and not discriminate by participating in homosexual activity, and that's just one extreme of the radical bat-shit crazy Cultural Marxist!

When I'm forced to blow my load into one of them, you can bet it'll be lead! Some people don't understand the word no, until it's delivered airmail packaged in lead!

Originally Posted by mgtower

When I'm forced to blow my load into one of them, you can bet it'll be lead! Some people don't understand the word no, until it's delivered airmail packaged in lead!

You mean sharing the love by sharing the lead ...

with passion.. and kinetic energy ..

piercing the hearts and minds... and anything that comes in between !!

Hi Bonobo Protocol,

It has been a while since you've posted, pleasure to hear from you again.

My thoughts on the current issues you are facing:

Everyone, to some extent MUST lead a double life. We all have our public and private persona; and they will never completely be one; that kind consistency does not exist - and anyone who tells you otherwise is either stupid or a liar.

Even if you work for yourself - or become extremely wealthy - you will have doubts about your values, priorities in life.

Moral Quandary was another thing you spoke of. The gentlemen here can attest that I do not believe in notions like Morality, Justice, Fairness.

The reason is simple - these notions are often used by the elites to control the sheeple. The upper classes never talk about these notions, they never bother themselves. Just like the modern women - if she wants something - she just takes it. That's it!

POOF! Like Magic!

The issue isn't really women - the issue the blue pill world and gynocentrism. The world we live is gynocentric - prejudice against men will always exist.

Let me give you a basic example. I often visit exhibitions related to the products my company manufactures. I have to set up a stand for my company's products. This involves A LOT of physical labour. Who do you think does all that labour? The female staff, some of whom are better paid and less qualified than I am? No, it's me.

But now, the question we should all be asking ourselves is: "in the face of an injustice, how do you respond so that you aren't further exploited?"

It's fine to talk about "women this" "injustice that" "false allegation this" "feminism that". Anyone scumbag can moan and groan about this shit!!

But what do you DO?

Well this is where men can be empowered.

In my case, I made a massive fuss about my annual wage - I made sure that they know I was pissed off and unhappy about how much I am receiving. I went ape shit on one of the managers and come salary review time, they gave me a 15% increase!

But that wasn't enough - the company was making ridiculous demands, like going on business trips very early in the morning and coming back very late at night. So I started milking the company in other ways, and those "business trips" turned into vacations.

The next step was pretending to be gay. This has helped me massively - and it looks good for the company to have a gay, ethnic minority for "diversity" reasons.

Now I have "come-out" - they do not dare put any pressure on me. I work at my own pace and take longer lunch breaks - if they open their mouths it's litigation time "manager asked me to suck his dick for a promotion, and by the way, they racially insulted me".

Skiving at work is a MUST and all men should be doing this unless they are in a very high position and doing very meaningful and rewarding job.

In short - it's fine to addresses the injustices that men face in the modern world - but you have to do something on a DAILY BASIS to improve your life!!

In short - LOOK AFTER YOURSELF! And fuck the rest!

Originally Posted by Opaque

The issue isn't really women - the issue the blue pill world and gynocentrism.

I dont think gynocentrism is the issue, its us, we men.

I have said it before, and will say it again, we view masculine aggression (violence) as more "negative" than feminine aggression (lying, fraud, deceit). Why I say violence is masculine and lying/fraud is feminine ? Its because men are better at masculine violence and women are better at feminine violence in overwhelming majority of cases. Even you have said several times, that women really excel in social manipulation, which is basically the point.

Imagine your situation, but replace all women in your office with men. And say that during your salary review time, you just punched your boss/employer on his face, and then threatened with litigation if they retaliate (by playing race or sexual orientation card, whatever). Write that on this very site, and you most likely get a warning from our moderators. Why is that ? There are no women involved in this situation, neither at your office, nor at this site. But because you went apeshit the masculine mode, you are the bad guy.

Its okay if you throw a hissy fit, its okay if you steal (by lying) large sums of money over a long time, but punch someone and then everything changes. And notice that I am still talking about JUST punching, and not, in mgtower's jargon, airmail lead delivery or anything like that...

We men have tied our own hands in a fight, and then are complaining that the fight is unfair. The feminism/gynocentrism is society just taking advantage of that, all the while laughing at us. We collectively made a fool of ourselves, and now simply paying the price of that stupidity.

We men have tied our own hands in a fight, and then are complaining that the fight is unfair. The feminism/gynocentrism is society just taking advantage of that, all the while laughing at us. We collectively made a fool of ourselves, and now simply paying the price of that stupidity.

I would disagree on this. It is mainly the white knights who tend to be very wealthy who have backed and supported female privilege. The average man doesn't know shit! and when he does it is too late.

Plus you have mothers who basically hide vital info on female manipulation which makes hi ma sucker when he grows up.

It is isn't men collectively, a small minority who think they can get pussy if they pander to women.

Originally Posted by Opaque

I would disagree on this. It is mainly the white knights who tend to be very wealthy who have backed and supported female privilege. The average man doesn't know shit! and when he does it is too late.

Plus you have mothers who basically hide vital info on female manipulation which makes hi ma sucker when he grows up.

It is isn't men collectively, a small minority who think they can get pussy if they pander to women.

I was referring specifically to the cognitive bias about our treatment of masculine violence vs feminine violence, not just any act of giving women a pussy pass. I believe that cognitive bias leads to situations and circumstances which encourages white knighting by preventing and discouraging masculine way of retaliation where we demonstrably excel over women.

And that bias exists everywhere, even among the mgtow, even on this very site. And I am quite sure, nobody here is a "wealthy white knight".

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

Today was especially hard today to remain in "Bruce Wayne mode". I had to bit my tongue on more than one occasion today. When I hear a coworker making remarks about how his group is "systemically descriminated against", I just want to go insane! Seriously?! You are a part of one of the most privelidged groups there are. Everyone makes excuses for your people on the regular but you still claim your group is descriminated against? Unreal!

There is a reason why I don't like most people and prefer to be alone.

My apologies for the mini-rant but I'm still annoyed by it.

Bonobo this sentiment, and this whole thread, really resonates with me. I am in a similar situation - i work for a large company in a large city and there is not much I can do but 'grin and bear' it when these things come up. I have seen some of the worst, most despicable behavior from women (and, frankly, also the blue pill men who simp for them) in recent years. So, at least there is someone to commiserate with and thankfully a forum to do it.

I used to have the 'you'll get yours', 'karma is a bitch' type attitude when women did their antics. I found over time that frustrated me because, frankly, there is no mechanism for direct accountability of women in society today. Now more than anything I am learning to 'grin fuck' and just basically say nothing or empty words at best, and walk away knowing that deep down these women are going against their nature, miserable and will end up unhappy. Meanwhile, every day I am improving my fitness, knowledge of history, finance, taxes, etc. and I take pleasure in knowing that fundamentally women can never take solace in their selves; they are driven by community and validation of others. I could retire tomorrow not even 40 yet, and am just adding gravy on top at this point; most of these idiots (women + blue pill men) blew their money on 'experiences' which went against nature and brought them nothing but misery. Which is why they will be the ones hurt the most as the policies they pursue destroy their own communities. These women may act like they are in power right now, but they are MISERABLE; look at how many are on prescription psychotropic drugs, anti depressants, how many are completely permiscuious, doing unnatural things to their body (hair cut short, tattoo, piercings etc.). The can have the 'outward' first and last word, but ultimately we get the last laugh.

I'm not finding the last laugh all that funny, I seriously have psychotic women that roam and walk these abandoned roads, one used to carry a stick to defend against my barking dogs that don't bite other than ankle nibbling, they really made her dance, and I'd wonder why the fuck she would come down my street knowing my dogs didn't like her nor did I, and there's others! One looks at the ground and flutters her hands, just like a real fucking nut house! They're real as life bat-shit crazy! You need some mighty big strong wings to fly over this cockoo's nest!

Originally Posted by Opaque

Hi Bonobo Protocol,

It has been a while since you've posted, pleasure to hear from you again.

Hi Opaque. Thanks for the brilliant post.
I try to read more than I post because there is so much good stuff on this site.

Originally Posted by Opaque

Well this is where men can be empowered.

In my case, I made a massive fuss about my annual wage - I made sure that they know I was pissed off and unhappy about how much I am receiving. I went ape shit on one of the managers and come salary review time, they gave me a 15% increase!

But that wasn't enough - the company was making ridiculous demands, like going on business trips very early in the morning and coming back very late at night. So I started milking the company in other ways, and those "business trips" turned into vacations.

The next step was pretending to be gay. This has helped me massively - and it looks good for the company to have a gay, ethnic minority for "diversity" reasons.

Now I have "come-out" - they do not dare put any pressure on me. I work at my own pace and take longer lunch breaks - if they open their mouths it's litigation time "manager asked me to suck his dick for a promotion, and by the way, they racially insulted me".

Skiving at work is a MUST and all men should be doing this unless they are in a very high position and doing very meaningful and rewarding job.

In short - it's fine to addresses the injustices that men face in the modern world - but you have to do something on a DAILY BASIS to improve your life!!

In short - LOOK AFTER YOURSELF! And fuck the rest!

You are a man after my own heart.

Yes! Use the system to your advantage.

When there is a system that is set up to exploit you, don't just sit there and say, "Oh well. I guess I just have to be a slave now." Silently protest! I've made a post about this in the past and I feel that skiving is a must. The choice isn't even in your hands if you have any sense of dignity. When you receive your first paycheck before you even see it, the government gets their cut. They did nothing in the earning of it but because they "hold you at gun point", they just take it. So does that mean you just "go along with it" and put your "heart and soul" into your job? Hell no! You silently protest!

Silently protesting can mean many things to many people depending on where you work. But such examples are: handling personal affairs while on the clock or taking extended breaks. I mean, you have to stand up for yourself as a man! If you just go along with a system that is trying to exploit you, then you deserve everything that you get.

I agree that you have to focus on yourself. If you are doing nothing for yourself, you have no business complaining about the injustices of the world. Now I find this site a great place to vent because as men, there isn't much places you can do that.

Originally Posted by TheBrownRecluse

Bonobo this sentiment, and this whole thread, really resonates with me. I am in a similar situation - i work for a large company in a large city and there is not much I can do but 'grin and bear' it when these things come up. I have seen some of the worst, most despicable behavior from women (and, frankly, also the blue pill men who simp for them) in recent years. So, at least there is someone to commiserate with and thankfully a forum to do it.

Yeah I'm thankful that there is a forum for likeminded men where we can discuss ideas without fear of persecution. I can't do this anywhere else. There are very few people that I can be genuine with and speak my mind. There are people at work that are tolerable but we are not friends. If I wasn't getting paid, I wouldn't spend one minute longer with these sheeple than I have to. Without forums like this, I'd feel like I was the only sane person in the world.

In the end, these "strong and independent" women will go back to their natural order. Once the nanny-state government disappears, so does feminism. Unfortunately, it will be bitter sweet. When this happens, it will be men that will suffer because none are prepared for a hard reset. Until this occurs, all a man can do is focus on one's self.

Not really. I work from home so I don't have to worry about the office people.

Sheep aren't meant to question but are meant to obey. I'll have to do well in remembering that. Meaningful conversations are not to be wasted on the sheep because they are incapable of independant thought.

I am very much on board with you on this Bonobo, and this post in general. I agree with much that has been said here. Most of the time it is the wisest course of action to save ones energy and just agree with the group. However, I would like to add on that I find it important to rebel against the group and speak one's mind regardless of who agrees or not (also to keep in mind that some people may agree with what you've said but not have the balls to agree with you in public). Challenging society in the midst of society has the potential to change society. I'm not suggesting that you'll change everyone's mind by the end of the debate, but perhaps you may have sparked some curiosity in the plugged-in by having the audacity to say what you must.

It comes back to the idea of picking and choosing your battles. I'd like to explore what is the criteria that decides whether we choose to battle or not. Do we engage when we think that someone may agree with us? Do we engage when there is enough open minded people in the room? Do we disengage when the debate is seemingly going nowhere? I'm not looking for any particular answer, but I find this very important. It's important to know when to fight

I work in kindergarten/elementary education. Feel exactly the same way. The experience has really sharpened my soft skills for calmly dealing with and deflecting coworker histrionics.

Originally Posted by mgtower

We live in a world where women can and will destroy men at the slightest perceived infraction.

They'll even scheme your demise while smiling to your face. That kind of deception is best left unprompted. Elephants and women never forget, and they're both known to go mad and kill everything.

A good point and something to always keep in mind. A kind of "workplace self defense" mindset is a must.

Originally Posted by Luthen

I am very much on board with you on this Bonobo, and this post in general. I agree with much that has been said here. Most of the time it is the wisest course of action to save ones energy and just agree with the group. However, I would like to add on that I find it important to rebel against the group and speak one's mind regardless of who agrees or not (also to keep in mind that some people may agree with what you've said but not have the balls to agree with you in public). Challenging society in the midst of society has the potential to change society. I'm not suggesting that you'll change everyone's mind by the end of the debate, but perhaps you may have sparked some curiosity in the plugged-in by having the audacity to say what you must.

It comes back to the idea of picking and choosing your battles. I'd like to explore what is the criteria that decides whether we choose to battle or not. Do we engage when we think that someone may agree with us? Do we engage when there is enough open minded people in the room? Do we disengage when the debate is seemingly going nowhere? I'm not looking for any particular answer, but I find this very important. It's important to know when to fight

Fredrick Douglass wrote, "A quiet mouth means a still head." Or something to that effect. I abide by this strategy. These days it is what we say or write which carry the greatest risk for our careers.

When we examine female nature, one thing that comes up again and again is the gap between what women say and what they do. Paying more attention to what women (or governments, or anyone else with a covert agenda) do rather than what they say yields the greatest insight into the reality of female nature. It can also be a weapon for you to speak out against the herd in a relatively safe way.

If you want to counter the narrative in a discreet yet powerful way, let your actions do the talking. Of course I don't mean affixing a MGTOW pin on the lapel of your work shirts. Your single status is already a very powerful statement. The fact that you are known to not have a significant other (no need to discuss this fact; let people infer it over time) speaks for itself. One also speaks boldly via omission. Over time people will catch on to what you DON'T say, even if they are not conscious of this. Abstention from certain herd practices communicates boldly as well.

Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol

Essentially you have to be a good actor. You have to pretend you are someone you're not. It's almost like the "Bruce Wayne and Batman" dynamic. I feel like I have to live a double life. Does anyone else have any thoughts on this?

On the outside I'm essentially the same person I was 5 years ago, but I'm doing a slow steady calculated withdrawal from my previous bad habits examples include.

Withdrawing from female friends who offer no actual benefit to my life.

Slowly reducing contact with friends to once a month who do little beyond sitting in the same pub every weekend, The pandemic has been perfect in doing this. I jump on the bus a lot of weekends now to do activities via meetup.

Deleting unneeded Facebook friends or just taking them off my news feed especially attention seeking victim playing middle aged women.

Refusing to help out at work Saturday mornings until various issues have been sorted out, no fuss, no argument just refuse.

Do my convict conditioning exercises everyday in my bedroom, without telling anyone.

I try to avoid white knighting / giving special favors to women whenever I'm consciously aware I'm about to do it.

I could add more but these are enough to make a point. Thankfully now in my 40s I'm less hassled to keep up with the Joneses or keep explaining why I haven't settled down yet.