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    Concise life lessons

    What are some concise life lessons you wish someone told you when you were younger or blue pill? Please share some short lessons that can save your bacon and enrich your life as an independent man - something we all strive for.

    I'll start off with a few I wish I had known:

    1. Keep most opinions to yourself. Don't argue, but state/clarify your points if you must.
    2. Don't work hard for other people without getting immediate repayment for your labour. They can toss you to the curb and all that extra work was for nothing.
    3. Do not talk about your personal life at work. People can use this knowledge against you in dishonest yet creative ways.
    4. Most women are highly manipulative. While young boys were resolving disagreements by fighting, girls were already training to manipulate.
    5. Marriage and cohabitation have few benefits and MANY risks. Do not even consider them.
    6. Don't push yourself too hard - give yourself time to relax without losing sight of your goals.
    7. Shit goes wrong. Don't stress over it, take corrective/evasive action as best you can.


    Some things I managed to get right (mostly), with luck:

    8. Be passionate about what you do (find something you are passionate about). Other passionate people take notice and will open doors for you.
    9. Invest in yourself and your own improvement. Don't waste it on pursuing women - you are the prize.
    10. Don't fall into 'social' trappings such as frequent partying or spending time with many people. Instead, focus time on yourself and close friends.
    11. Don't give people your recipes for success. While you were working hard and learning, they were partying and relaxing.

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Nice list. Here are some random pointers in no particular order:

    A. Do not assume the caring and love and selflessness you see in your mother is applicable to other women. Your mother is that way to you because you are her son, not because she is a woman.

    B. Do not expect extraordinary results with ordinary effort

    C. One key measure of a friend is how they are in a group. If they undercut you, make exclusive effort to socialize with others, or try to one-up you in front of others, they can at best be an acquaintance.

    D. Think about how to be a good friend. What do your friends do that you appreciate? (Ask you about things in your life? Don't pry into areas you don't want to talk about, etc.). Try to adopt those traits.

    E. Listen to your inner voice. There is a part of you deep within that knows what it wants. You can modify these to some degree, but ultimately satisfying these wants and needs is key to your happiness. Deep down, you may want to socialize with other people. Don't ignore it or tell yourself it doesn't matter. Be proactive and if that's the case, find ways to connect with others. Make an effort. Maybe deep down, you're saying 'I want to be closer to my family' or maybe 'I need to create more breathing room between me and my family' or 'I thrive off [competitive sports], [getting out into the woods], etc. Oftentimes as men, we tell ourselves 'that doesn't matter'. Listen to yourself and follow that voice.

    F. APPRECIATE the world around you. Appreciate every little thing. The spectacular age we live- the wonders of modernity, the virtue of living in a first world country, living in a time of relative peace and prosperity, the sunrise, the kind people around you, the people that ever helped you in life, the family members who were there for you, the friends and the good times you shared. Never end the day thinking of some injustice. Try to end the day thinking of a few things you accomplished today, and a few good memories.

    G. There will be times you have to invest in your health. You will not want to. You will want to do anything but this. You will want to recreate, want to work, want to socialize, work on hobby, etc. Focus on your health. There is so much good information online, you can take greater ownership and take the lead in talking to the right people.
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    Re: Concise life lessons

    1. Women don't care about gifts, flowers, etc if they have their knickers in a twist for a guy.
    2. Some people want to cruise through life without any effort. It is not your job to try to save them as they must do it themselves
    3. Can't help everyone in the world because of our finite time and resources. Focus on yourself and if you have time then try to help others.

    Reality is the world is very cold and survival of the fittest in the sense. We don't have to keep it that way, but it is what it is. We can make the best of if by trying to lift those around us out of the abyss. But self improvement requires you accept who you and what you want to change.

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Do not rent off a chick. Do not live in a group house where a chick holds the lease. Blokes leave you alone; chicks intrude and occupy your space and time. They will abuse any power over you that they have.

    Most of what people say in a social setting is bullshit. They are just being pleasant and making conversation. Furthermore, everyone understands this other than … uh … logical types like yourself, oh young man that I was. In particular, people do not honour commitments made in a social setting - their words are completely worthless. If you promise to do something at a party and then go ahead and actually do it because you said you would, people will think you are weird.

    Accumulate a cushion of money. Stay out of credit card debt. There is no benefit to it. There is nothing that consumer credit - used sensibly - can do for you that a cushion of money in an account somewhere cannot.

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    It only costs a little extra to go second rate.

    Don't be an early adopter. Let someone else pay for it.

    Never loan or borrow money from others.

    Do not do business with family or friends.

    Jesus saves, Moses invests.

    Sleep on it.

    No salesman is your friend.

    People who acquire wealth spend less than they earn.

    If you work for a large corporation or government agency, or military service, remember that the organization doesn't love you or hate you; you just exist on the payroll until you are no longer useful. It is the system and don't take it personal.

    (the prior posts are great, BTW)

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    1. Put yourself 1st

    2. Ask "what is in it for me?" before doing anything

    3. Networks trump resume's or cv's

    4. Assets keep you afloat, liabilities will sink your ship

    5. Trustworthy Friends are the best investment you will ever make.

    6. Wants are not needs.

    7. Never reveal your entire plan; people cannot unravel plots they do not know.
    because even solitude is better than evil company. - Bartolomeo Scala

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Pay or Do.

    For most things in life you will need to decide. Should I do this myself? Should I pay to have this done?

    Whatever the task I have found that if possible I am better off doing than paying. I lean skills to last a lifetime. I acquire tools to help with future tasks, and more.

    It's also important to know when to pay. When past attempts have shown you are more likely to fuck it up than fix it. It's time to pay.

    Your whole life you will need to make this basic decision. So learn your abilities, strengths, and weaknesses.
    Make this simple decision like a true MGTOW who knows himself well.
    Based on fact not bullshit.
    "People are always angry at anyone who chooses very individual standards for his life; because of the extraordinary treatment which that man grants to himself, they feel degraded, like ordinary beings."
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    Re: Concise life lessons

    1)The power of compound interest
    2)More is not better
    3)Bigger is not better
    4)Live below your means, splurge occasionally.
    5)Home ownership isn't always a good option

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    My 2 cents...

    Always be aware of the need to have awareness of the myriad possibilities in life. Accept your limitations and understand that many of those possibilities will be closed to you. This contradicts the fantasist pabulum of 'you can be whatever you want'.
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    Beware of desperate steps. The darkest day,
    Live till tomorrow, will have passed away.

    A few by Goethe:

    We take everyone in life at the value he puts upon himself; but he must indeed put some value upon himself.

    The happiest man is he who can join the end of his life with the beginning.

    In truth, it is a man's mistakes that make him amiable.

    A man does not get rid of what is his own, even if he throws it away.

    It is better to do the most trivial thing in the world than to consider a half-hour to be trivial.

    A few by George Bernard Shaw:

    Men are wise in proportion, not to their experience, but to their capacity for experience.

    Mens sana in corpore sano is a foolish saying. The sound body is a product of the sound mind.

    It is dangerous to be sincere unless you are also stupid.

    The most intolerable pain is produced by prolonging the keenest pleasure.

    The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.

    Vice is waste of life. Poverty, obedience, and celibacy are the canonical vices.

    In heaven an angel is nobody in particular.

    No specific virtue or vice in a man implies the existence of any other specific virtue or vice in him, however closely the imagination may associate them.

    Virtue consists, not in abstaining from vice, but in not desiring it.

    The vilest abortionist is he who attempts to mould a child's character.

    The best brought-up children are those who have seen their parents as they are. Hypocrisy is not the parent's first duty.

    Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it.

    I will add my current signature:

    "To have dared the impossible, to have tried to fly to the sun, to have wooed the moon, to have burned your boats behind you and resolutely entered that trackless region of art where the soul must be its own compass, its own rudder, its own captain, is to have done something. Better a million times to have failed than the success of the sleek, smug philistine who counts his coupons and his steps."
    (James Huneker, Mousical Courier XXXII (May 27, 1896), page 20)

    A few of my own:

    1. If you are young and full of ideals, do some hard and heavy work in the fields; stop relying only on thoughts. Get out there, and have the banal idealism knocked out of you. Only then can you start building true ideals.

    2. Love, fortunate, fame and friendship are promised to no one. Be prepared to live without them, however greatly they could aid you.

    3. Don't listen to those who look down upon that which you like and do not like. The phrases "obligatory viewing", "obligatory reading" and "obligatory listening" are nonsense -- there is no obligatory pleasure. If, in 50 pages, a book does not capture your imagination, put it down: it is not for you.

    4. You have a life of approximately 85 years, and can fill in however much is left of that. You can spend it how you want, granted the basal needs are taken care of. Listen to your own heart before you listen to others.

    5. The road to happiness consists not only in doing that which you like, but also in removing that which you do not like.

    6. The love of pleasure is not the love of virtue. Hedonism satisfies only temporarily; serenity satisfies a lifetime.

    7. Failure in one department of life does not equal failure in life. Failing at school does not mean your life has been ruined.

    8. Do not underestimate the power of the human spirit that dwells within you. You can conquer many ills, however difficult.
    And when her lips so sweetly move
    The soul such height attain,
    You're free, yet would no longer rove
    But lay you down in chains.

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Quote Originally Posted by Quant View Post
    What are some concise life lessons you wish someone told you when you were younger or blue pill?

    Top 10 for Health:

    1. Take very good care of your teeth.
    2. Floss every day.
    3. Never allow mercury (including amalgam fillings) into your body, except when a school or immigration department requires a vaccine, and you can't find a mercury free version. Only exceptions: sardines and breathing.
    4. Get as much sleep as possible. Never get up too early to study. Never try to stay up late to study.
    5. Stay away from coffee. Even if that means you can't finish your homework or study for an exam as well as you could with coffee.
    6. Go low carbs.
    7. Start practicing karate as young as possible. And stick to it as long as possible.
    8. through 10. I will think of these later.


    Top 10 for Wealth:

    1. Ask primary school teachers to let you skip a grade.
    2. Rarely ever read novels. Read success books instead, such as "Think and Grow Rich", "Unlimited Wealth", "God Wants You To Be Rich", "Succeeding" (by John T. Reed), etc.
    3. Immediately after high school, go study in France's "classes preparatoires".
    4. The 10,000 hours rule.
    5. Learn as much programming as possible in your junior and senior years in college.
    6. Reserve making any judgment as to whether you like programming during your first 1,000 hours of practice.
    7. Start your career in quantitative finance (QF), not science or engineering.
    8. Start the QF career as soon as possible, immediately after your bachelor if you can, after a PhD if you must.
    9. Work in finance just long enough to save a million dollars. Then quit and never work for anybody else again.
    10. Work on developing passive residual income from home as soon as you are done with the previous 9 steps.
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    Re: Concise life lessons

    1 - Be prepared to lose, and expect to lose badly.

    2 - Never gloat when you win, it's low brow and unworthy of respect.

    3 - If they can't or wont bail you out of jail, or back you up in a bar fight then cut them lose.

    4 - Women are worth the price, but always remember that you will never be able to afford them.

    5 - If you need to ask, then you can't afford it, and it isn't worth investing in.

    6 - Measure twice. and cut once.

    7 - Say what you mean and mean what you say, and if you cant do that then keep quiet until you can.

    8 - You can never have to many magazines in a gunfight, but don't ever waste what you have.

    9 - Never lie, cheat, or steal, and if you get caught you didn't try hard enough.

    10 - Fin hadda... Fin hadda... Fin hadda...

    11 - It aint spotta be that way... And it always will be so get used to it.

    12 - No dog is ever housebroken, but a few are worth keeping around anyway.

    13 -

    14 - Never talk out of school to impress people, you will never know who is listening and knows it's a lie.

    15 - It's only arrogance if you can't back it up.

    16 - The man make the uniform, the uniform does not make the man.

    17 - Hippo's are a lot more dangerous than they look.

    18 - Chewing matches will keep the bugs from biting you, and yes I know from experience.

    19 - Yes, I intentionally left 13 blank.... Doncha feel special now that you noticed?

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Trust no one, my friend, no one. Not your most grateful freedman, not your most intimate friend, not your dearest child, not the wife of your bosom. Trust no one.

    - Herod Agrippa to the Emperor Claudius on his death bed.

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    Only advice I have to offer is always remember true happiness comes from within, external forces can only add to it or detract from it but never create it, and towards that, try to never do anything that makes you unhappy with who you see in the mirror and if you do learn from that error, remedy it however you can and move on to bringing back that happiness with who you see in the mirror.
    True happiness is only found within, to seek it elsewhere will result in failure.

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Alright, here's a couple:

    - Don't put things off, if you need to do something important, start doing it now - as in this instant!
    - Aim to cook for yourself every day from raw ingredients if possible.
    - Don't become friends with pussywhipped guys or blue pillers, they have a habit of backstabbing people.
    - Assume any personal information you give out can and will be used against you - keep it to a minimum.
    - Last set is always until failure!
    Marrying a woman is like taking a shit upside down every day for the rest of your life. Don't do it!

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    I only have one;

    - Doing nothing is a decision, and it's sometimes the best one.

    "If you wait by the river for long enough, the bodies of your enemies will float by" Sun Tzu

    "Don't just do something, stand there!" Ronald Reagan

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Quote Originally Posted by Quant View Post
    2. Don't work hard for other people without getting immediate repayment for your labour. They can toss you to the curb and all that extra work was for nothing.
    I am going to add an exception to that rule. Work hard your first year in a new career, because what you are mostly doing is learning. I have put in 50 hours a week of effort in my first job as a software developer. But I had gotten very little real work done. The main outcome of that effort was to transform me from a mediocre programmer into a semi decent programmer. Your first year in a career, you are mostly getting paid to learn anyways. So, you may as well maximize your learning.

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    I've got only one to add- only take advice from people that deserve your respect. Even then, take everything they say with a grain of salt. What worked for them might not work for you. Especially, don't listen to my advice, as I'm a complete fuck-up.

    See what I did there :3

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    And among all this good advice, a couple I disagree with:

    Rarely ever read novels. Read success books instead, such as "Think and Grow Rich", "Unlimited Wealth", "God Wants You To Be Rich", "Succeeding" (by John T. Reed), etc.
    Never forget that the Amway double diamonds didn't get rich selling soap, they got rich selling books and tapes. Watch what they do, not what they say. A guy selling investment advice - if it's such good advice, why is he wasting his time writing books about it?

    But "How to win friends and influence people" is a worthwhile read. Even the title is a stop-and-think-about-it moment: friends must be won.

    The vilest abortionist is he who attempts to mould a child's character.
    Well, Mr Bernard Shaw - we have a couple of generations of kids now who have grown up without pesky do-gooders, nannies and schoolmasters attempting to modify their angelic little characters. We have rediscovered what people for aeons have known: most people naturally are lazy assholes, and need to be trained in childhood to save them from it.

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    Re: Concise life lessons

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Well, Mr Bernard Shaw - we have a couple of generations of kids now who have grown up without pesky do-gooders, nannies and schoolmasters attempting to modify their angelic little characters. We have rediscovered what people for aeons have known: most people naturally are lazy assholes, and need to be trained in childhood to save them from it.
    The only people who don't realize this are people who don't actually have children. Which is why I object to the idea of childless people having anything to do with making policy regarding child-rearing.

    Until you have children, you just don't know. Character is something you have to instill in children and instill in them early. A close family friend of mine is a single mother. I like her boys well enough, but the way they speak to adults is, to my mind, shocking. No is a frequent word out of their mouths, and their mother does nothing when they say that to her in response to an order. They don't clean, or even pick up after themselves. They are 9 and 11. More than old enough to be helping around the house. But they don't, because character was not instilled in them.

    Call me old fashioned (and I actually consider myself easy-going in that I don't require my children to call me "sir" as some of my contemporaries had to do with their parents), but "no" is not something you say to an adult in authority over you if you're a child.

    Sorry, it started off as kind of relevant, then devolved a little into a personal rant.

    Backchat of any kind really gets on my nerves. And we're faced with a generation of kids who do it with abandon.
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