Thread: Life updates and advice from a ghost

I posted a fairly large thread about my ghost-lifestyle 2 months ago but wanted to give an update on it, since a lot has happened since then, and without sounding to "preachy", I want to share some things that may benefit you.

1) Health. I know, I know, you're probably thinking, "duh..!" - but seriously. Put down the fried foods, stop consuming sugar. I've been in and out of hospital with issues in the past month - some of which the doctors can't even figure out. But I know that if I'd lived a healthier lifestyle, the chances of me getting all this were slim. Additionally - (at least in the UK) the NHS is utter shite. It's rammed at A+E departments and they point you to your GP (local doctor, general practitioner) - which means that essentially unless you've had a heart attack, you wont be seen, or you'll be rushed out as quick as possible. Therefore it's absolutely critical that you keep healthy as you can because it's likely you won't have help when you need it most (untold numbers of immigration is a huge issue that hasn't helped this, but that's another topic)

2) Girlfriends/wives - We all know this, but here's a gentle reminder. I've never been so stressed as when I was in a relationship. My ex was a weed smoker. She told me she'd stop - but she didn't.. One day I logged into her instagram (she gave me passwords to her shit freely because she forgot them and she wanted me to keep notes of it all, so I wasn't snooping) and saw that she'd messaged her weed dealer and planned to meet him - I know there's nothing between them, but the very thought of my partner driving off to meet a drug dealer pissed me the fuck off. I knew right then and there that the chances of this relationship working were slim to none.

Friends with wives have told me: 1) the wedding was a waste of cash. I know one guy who spent £18,000 ($20ish thousand dollars) on the "big day". Every few months he tells me how he wishes he never spent that much and how his wife is nagging him to have babies etc. Oh, and the kicker? She works part time and earns $10,000 a year, whereas he earns $90,000 a year. She did great, didn't she...

3) You, do you! What do I mean by this? Well, I've recently got hold of a racing wheel, pedals and a gear stick for the PC. This allows me to kick back, relax and simulate some racing at the PC whenever the hell I want. This might sound like a "so what" point, but with no partner to complain, say it's taking up too much room etc etc it's a real joy to play. For reference, I play asseto corsa and forza 4/5.

4) Acceptance as a ghost - as a ghost, life isn't "normal" per se. You're not going to have a wife, or a huge amount of friends in many cases. And that's ok. Accept this. Embrace it. Less people = less drama. So much less drama....! When it gets lonely, throw on a movie, play some games - go for a walk. Burn calories - I've lost 14lb in the last 5-6 weeks through fixing diet/sleep and exercising lightly (although I attribute it mostly to very good eating/calorie counting). Being a ghost allows you to live how you want to.

All the best!

Originally Posted by mgtoe

I posted a fairly large thread about my ghost-lifestyle 2 months ago but wanted to give an update on it, since a lot has happened since then, and without sounding to "preachy", I want to share some things that may benefit you.

1) Health. I know, I know, you're probably thinking, "duh..!" - but seriously. Put down the fried foods, stop consuming sugar. I've been in and out of hospital with issues in the past month - some of which the doctors can't even figure out. But I know that if I'd lived a healthier lifestyle, the chances of me getting all this were slim. Additionally - (at least in the UK) the NHS is utter shite. It's rammed at A+E departments and they point you to your GP (local doctor, general practitioner) - which means that essentially unless you've had a heart attack, you wont be seen, or you'll be rushed out as quick as possible. Therefore it's absolutely critical that you keep healthy as you can because it's likely you won't have help when you need it most (untold numbers of immigration is a huge issue that hasn't helped this, but that's another topic)

2) Girlfriends/wives - We all know this, but here's a gentle reminder. I've never been so stressed as when I was in a relationship. My ex was a weed smoker. She told me she'd stop - but she didn't.. One day I logged into her instagram (she gave me passwords to her shit freely because she forgot them and she wanted me to keep notes of it all, so I wasn't snooping) and saw that she'd messaged her weed dealer and planned to meet him - I know there's nothing between them, but the very thought of my partner driving off to meet a drug dealer pissed me the fuck off. I knew right then and there that the chances of this relationship working were slim to none.

Friends with wives have told me: 1) the wedding was a waste of cash. I know one guy who spent £18,000 ($20ish thousand dollars) on the "big day". Every few months he tells me how he wishes he never spent that much and how his wife is nagging him to have babies etc. Oh, and the kicker? She works part time and earns $10,000 a year, whereas he earns $90,000 a year. She did great, didn't she...

3) You, do you! What do I mean by this? Well, I've recently got hold of a racing wheel, pedals and a gear stick for the PC. This allows me to kick back, relax and simulate some racing at the PC whenever the hell I want. This might sound like a "so what" point, but with no partner to complain, say it's taking up too much room etc etc it's a real joy to play. For reference, I play asseto corsa and forza 4/5.

4) Acceptance as a ghost - as a ghost, life isn't "normal" per se. You're not going to have a wife, or a huge amount of friends in many cases. And that's ok. Accept this. Embrace it. Less people = less drama. So much less drama....! When it gets lonely, throw on a movie, play some games - go for a walk. Burn calories - I've lost 14lb in the last 5-6 weeks through fixing diet/sleep and exercising lightly (although I attribute it mostly to very good eating/calorie counting). Being a ghost allows you to live how you want to.

All the best!

With regards point 1) Health:

Well, you don’t go into detail, and if the doc’s can’t figure it out it’s likely there’s nothing I nor anyone else here can help with.

Except, maybe, don’t go beating yourself up about past, erm, indiscretions when it comes to lifestyle. I’ve known quite a few that lived supposed very healthy lifestyles and came a cropper all the same.

Personally I’m a fan of the “everything in moderation” way, not that I’m a great practitioner by any means. Addictions aside, I don’t believe in cutting things out of one’s diet completely, but cutting back is fine. Neither do I believe in exercising like lunatic, but a fair amount is necessary. Getting the balance right has always eluded me, but it’s always worth bearing in mind that what is right for one may be disastrous for another.

Statistics can guide us generally, but they should NEVER (IMO) be applied wholesale to an individual as there are too many unknown quantities at play.


With regards 4) Acceptance as a ghost:

Originally Posted by mgtoe

life isn't "normal" per se. You're not going to have … a huge amount of friends in many cases.

How is this different from any other lifestyle? This IS normal. Most guys don’t have huge numbers of friends whether in a relationship or not. I’ve had large groups of “friends” and small groups, and even no friends for a while, but this was on me, on whether or not I put the effort in, or even wanted to.

The point is, as a ghost you get to be your point no. 3) at all times – You get to do you!


Great post.

Thanks for the reply, JO. I think only time will cure whatever the heck is wrong with me... here's hoping!

I am also a fan of the "everything in moderation" mindset, that's not a bad way to live.

And the reason why I personally think the ghost lifestyle is quite different from other lifestyles, is that you get very comfortable being alone, working on plans, going back and forth with your own thoughts, wrestling with yourself - essentially, becoming a better person without other people dragging you down and then beating you with experience.

The only guy I ever mentioned MGTOW to (whom I thought was a friend) ended up suggesting I was sexist for even mentioning MGTOW and that it's anti-women, anti-feminist etc. That only made me want to be more of a 'ghost' and fade into the background. I managed to achieve this somewhat, but as you rightly say, it's down to how much effort/time you want to put into friends, work etc.