Thread: I'd rather betray the world, than let the world betray me.

Those words belong to Cao Cao - a legendary leader who united China during Three Kingdom era.

Imagine you suddenly find yourself amidst great rebelion.
You, and two of your followers are constantly on the run, avoiding major routes and cities.
You can't just simply seek refuge anywhere as you are famous and there is price on your head.
You can't buy food or hunt. Rarely do you eat. In fact you haven't eaten for two weeks when you
bump into your uncle.

You are both happy to meet each other and he offers you a place to stay and a food to eat.
Delighted, you go into his house while he departs to fetch finest wine
from a nearby city.

At nightfall you hear some voices. They clearly are laying an ambush. You hear something about restraining and slitting throats.
Very well - you plan a counter. You minecraft everyone, set everything ablaze and already are on the move. Half a mile from the village you meet your uncle. He's blind, so he doesn't see the fire. He asks where are you going since the party haven't even started. He talks about how he ordered his people to kill the finest chicken in your honour.

Suddenly you relize that's what servants were talking about. They were planning to slay a chicken.
You quickly terminate your uncle, so he won't face the atrocities you've just commited.
All of this because you would rather betray the world, than let the world betray you.

Gents, when I've read Romance of Three Kingdoms two years ago, I couldn't understand this maxim.
This mindset seemed so absurd. Everyone is familiar with betrayal and revenge.
Counter-betrayal though? Revenge before betrayal? That's some 4D chess shit.

Now I see it clearly - this maxim is not about commiting the act of betrayal first but rather avoiding
getting betrayed at all costs.

This is the way of a ghost. This is what the MGTOW is.

You see, MGTOW is an extreme countermeasure. It means giving up on the entire gender in order to avoid betrayal.
It means assuming ill intent not to get tricked. Finally, it means to rather mistake unicorn for a monster than a monster for unicorn.

Because you would rather betray the world, than let the world betray you.

Originally Posted by bazalgette

Those words belong to Cao Cao - a legendary leader who united China during Three Kingdom era.

Imagine you suddenly find yourself amidst great rebelion.
You, and two of your followers are constantly on the run, avoiding major routes and cities.
You can't just simply seek refuge anywhere as you are famous and there is price on your head.
You can't buy food or hunt. Rarely do you eat. In fact you haven't eaten for two weeks when you
bump into your uncle.

You are both happy to meet each other and he offers you a place to stay and a food to eat.
Delighted, you go into his house while he departs to fetch finest wine
from a nearby city.

At nightfall you hear some voices. They clearly are laying an ambush. You hear something about restraining and slitting throats.
Very well - you plan a counter. You minecraft everyone, set everything ablaze and already are on the move. Half a mile from the village you meet your uncle. He's blind, so he doesn't see the fire. He asks where are you going since the party haven't even started. He talks about how he ordered his people to kill the finest chicken in your honour.

Suddenly you relize that's what servants were talking about. They were planning to slay a chicken.
You quickly terminate your uncle, so he won't face the atrocities you've just commited.
All of this because you would rather betray the world, than let the world betray you.

Gents, when I've read Romance of Three Kingdoms two years ago, I couldn't understand this maxim.
This mindset seemed so absurd. Everyone is familiar with betrayal and revenge.
Counter-betrayal though? Revenge before betrayal? That's some 4D chess shit.

Now I see it clearly - this maxim is not about commiting the act of betrayal first but rather avoiding
getting betrayed at all costs.

This is the way of a ghost. This is what the MGTOW is.

You see, MGTOW is an extreme countermeasure. It means giving up on the entire gender in order to avoid betrayal.
It means assuming ill intent not to get tricked. Finally, it means to rather mistake unicorn for a monster than a monster for unicorn.

Because you would rather betray the world, than let the world betray you.

A unicorn is a horned animal so, in concept, it is a predator, a monster.

And Cao Cao's fleet was incinerated in the battle of Red Cliff in 208 by Huang Gai's fireships, the 1st weapon of mass destruction.

It works by filling a wooden tank on the ship with oil that is then set on fire along with the supports keeping the hull of the ship intact.

When the fire burns the supports and ropes completely, the wooden panels of the hull collapse outwards and the burning oil spills into the water, creating a massive fire that incinerates all the enemy ships that get caught in the blaze.


Below is an image of the fireship:





The Chinese also invented other weapons of mass destruction:


Fire Ox w/ Spears - is a ground based version of the fireship that uses an ox carrying a barrel of oil or pulling a cart filled with barrels of oil. The tail of the ox is set on fire and the ox is whipped so that it will rush towards the enemy. When the burning oil spills out of the barrels after crashing into the enemy, large uncontrollable fires spread. The fire ox also has spears harnessed to it so that it injures any enemy personnel that try to stop its advance.


Below is an image of a fire ox w/ spears:






Explosive Fire Ox - is a version of the fire ox that carries a barrel filled with gunpowder, or pulls a cart filled with barrels of gunpowder, instead of oil. A wick is ignited before the ox is sent to the enemy and when the fire from the wick reaches the gunpowder, the ox, or ox and cart, explodes.


Below is an image of an explosive fire ox:






Fragmentary Fire Ox - is a version of the explosive fire ox that has shrapnel mixed in with the explosives to increase its lethality to enemy personnel.


Below is an image of a fragmentary fire ox:





Toxic Vapor Bomb - are gas bombs consisting of gunpowder mixed with various poisons wrapped in hemp and moxa. When the bomb explodes, the fumes cause bleeding from the mouth and nose that originates from blood accumulating in the lungs because the fumes burn holes in the lung's tissues. Because the blood accumulating in the lungs prevents oxygen from going into it, any person inhaling these toxic fumes eventually dies of suffocation.


Below is an image of a toxic vapor bomb:





Sources:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fire_s...ra,_first_uses
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chines...emical_warfare

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Below is an image of a Chinese rocket assault tower: a wheeled siege tower, pulled by soldiers or a team of draft animals, that can fire rockets from its platforms. These images are from a historical movie about the Boxer Rebellion:

An addition to the teaching would "Yet I will never betray myself"

I'd rather go my own way, betray no-one and watch the carnage as the rest betray each other.

I got gaslighted so hard that it has been a struggle to me to even form a coherent thought. While I do not think that I am to give up on woman or "the world" entirely, I definitely plan on working on restoring myself FOR A LONG TIME.

Totally support the thread title here, OP. As opposed to the good old parenting motto "the world doesn't owe you anything".

Like hell!

Self-protection is very important.

Suddenly you relize that's what servants were talking about. They were planning to slay a chicken.
You quickly terminate your uncle, so he won't face the atrocities you've just commited.
All of this because you would rather betray the world, than let the world betray you.

Gents, when I've read Romance of Three Kingdoms two years ago, I couldn't understand this maxim.
This mindset seemed so absurd. Everyone is familiar with betrayal and revenge.
Counter-betrayal though? Revenge before betrayal? That's some 4D chess shit.

This is, in fact, how people from china think. Especially how their corrupted communist dictatorship government thinks.
china people will betray you and stab you from behind, but when caught in the act, they will turn around and play the victim (just like modern feminazi skanks). That's why even the non-china Chinese don't trust the mainland chinese ( or china-nese as they are being called nowadays....to distinguish them from other Chinese ( eg, Taiwanese Chinese).

Sometimes, MGTOW need to adapt this mentality too. Mostly though, I rather adapt what Jackoff wrote above: I'd rather be minding my own business and let others burn each other. BUT, when the situation warranties it, I'd still adapt the china-nese mindset of "betray the world, than let the world betray you".

In other words, as MGTOW, we need to do what it takes to survive at all costs. It doesn't have to be fair (because the world isn't fair to men), it just has to work for you.