Thread: I decided that I won't move out of my parents house.

Nah, I get along with them. We have our arguments but they are little to no issue. They know that I am a person that thinks rationally and logically so they never disrespect me. They even respect me as I do most of the physical work in house (my father has lower back issues) and I am one of the very few people in family that has good educational background.

Originally Posted by user97972

I have little to no expenses at all.I have a very simple lifestyle right now, workout,code,eat,sleep. I am a very frugal person.
There is little to no possibility to save right now as there is around %200 inflation in my country (Turkey) , prices are absolutely f'ed up. But it will turn up better in time eventually, then i will be able to save really easily .

Ouch. 200% inflation is a nightmare. Sorry the economy's so bad there. I had no idea.

Maybe there's someone here who's a wizard on economics. Could he do something like invest in more stable currencies like the Euro, the US dollar, or the Swiss franc? What about precious metals like gold or silver? 200 percent is a monster inflation rate.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Ouch. 200% inflation is a nightmare. Sorry the economy's so bad there. I had no idea.
200 percent is a monster inflation rate.

Yeah, thats what happens when people elect corrupt officials because of emotions.

Thanks man , I don't need a wizard. I plan to work remotely for EU or somewhere where I can get paid with Euro or USD. I plan to stay here but not get paid shitty money.

Originally Posted by user97972

Yeah, thats what happens when people elect corrupt officials because of emotions.

Thanks man , I don't need a wizard. I plan to work remotely for EU or somewhere where I can get paid with Euro or USD. I plan to stay here but not get paid shitty money.

That sounds like a great idea. I'd bet you could have a bank account online where you just keep your money in Euro or USD. The USD does have higher inflation than usual right now, but it's not anywhere near 200 percent. Not sure about the Euro.

Two hundred percent is a nightmare.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

That sounds like a great idea. I'd bet you could have a bank account online where you just keep your money in Euro or USD. The USD does have higher inflation than usual right now, but it's not anywhere near 200 percent. Not sure about the Euro.

Two hundred percent is a nightmare.

You can store it in my country too. Thats not a problem. If you get paid euros,inflation is not much problem as you can own food for pretty good prices . Its pretty easy for people that live frugally and minimalistic like me if you get paid euros/dollars around here.I know because i know a lot of people that get paid Euro/USD.

Yeah, imagine paying three times of what you pay for a food in 3 years. Just regular food. Its f'ed up.

Nothing wrong with living at home.
I did until my early 30s then moved into my own place.

Your parents don't mind you living there and you're happy where you're at.
Being happy is what counts.

"marriage is fucked"
Very.
And housing costs are starting to get completely ridiculous in my part of the Midwest.

"I will have more time and money to work out, hang out with my buddies and live a happy life."
"I just want to be happy."
Sounds like you have got it together.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Two things:
Save and invest!

You're in a great situation being young and being able to work and earn with low overhead. Don't give into the temptation to buy every shiny new thing or to party a ton. You can build up a great portfolio to be able to retire in great shape.

This is OUTSTANDING advice. ESPECIALLY since you won’t be losing half of it or more in a divorce. When I was your age, I saved; a little. Now, at age 56, I’d give my right nut to have saved more way back then and be able to retire earlier.

I guess it doesn’t matter since my MGTOW conversion came after I already lost half. If I only knew then what I know now…..

Main message being- you will really appreciate having the option to retire sooner rather than later when you pass 50.

Originally Posted by Survivor64

This is OUTSTANDING advice. ESPECIALLY since you won’t be losing half of it or more in a divorce. When I was your age, I saved; a little. Now, at age 56, I’d give my right nut to have saved more way back then and be able to retire earlier.

I guess it doesn’t matter since my MGTOW conversion came after I already lost half. If I only knew then what I know now…..

Main message being- you will really appreciate having the option to retire sooner rather than later when you pass 50.

You were reduced by 50% only once?

Think about the guys that went on to be reduced by 50%, in a string of reductions that left him with 5% of his original worth. They played him like and industrial mop to fund the Marry'go'round madness! Some dudes never get off until they're thrown off, lick their wounds, then hop back on again!

As for me, I saw the insanity early on in life, just after they established "no fault divorce law", giving no accountability or penalty for divorce, thereby creating the Marry'go'round, annihilating the nuclear family and erasing all accountability for poor behavior.

I just sat back and watched society self destruct and wanted no part of such a deadly ride that carelessly throws its passengers into the support stanchions and walls in the carousel house!
And we're the ones hated, despised, demonized, and accused of misandry?

Behind every man that walked away is a nice guy that died inside and arose from the dead. They confuse "hatred" with "indifference".

Indifference is an island of safety in a shallow sea littered with shipwrecks from a war that's raged on all our adult life, we're no longer masters and commanders of this wayward society, we live independent and isolated from the tyranny, mutiny, and treason that awaits us.

If that's a hate crime, then so is the act of thinking.

You don't need a house to live alone, a small apartment will do. Personally, I find the freedom, privacy and autonomy of living alone worth the expense.

Think they made a movie about guys who refuse to leave their parent's house - Failure To Launch. Great comedy! Watch the trailer on youtube . . .

Originally Posted by I'm Gone

You don't need a house to live alone, a small apartment will do. Personally, I find the freedom, privacy and autonomy of living alone worth the expense.

We have house on a village 1-2 hours away from my family. I can also move to there,scene is way better. Only disadvantage it has is its VERY CLOSE to a mosque, which makes Adhan unbearable in mornings.

I personally never understood the fascination with immediately abandoning your family to live alone and struggle financially. It seems that this is a trend that arose in the 80s if anything, perhaps with overbearing parents and the continued devaluation of moral principle.

Throughout much of the world, as well as the majority of US history, multi-generational housing is the norm. You lived with your parents, took care of them as they aged, and your children did the same for you as you aged. This is default, the current trend of moving out is an anomaly.

Originally Posted by Whomst

Throughout much of the world, as well as the majority of US history, multi-generational housing is the norm. You lived with your parents, took care of them as they aged, and your children did the same for you as you aged. This is default, the current trend of moving out is an anomaly.

Current trend? Really? Every American family I have ever known did not have grandparents living with them, going back decades. I had to watch the 70s TV show The Waltons to see the multi-generational thing and they were depicting the 30s. Every 18-year-old who goes off to college has moved out from their parents home. All of my siblings and I moved out when we turned 18-19. All of my aunts and uncles, born in 1920s and later, moved out. Before that, my grandmother and her brother emigrated to America, leaving their parents behind. When young women get married, they go live with their husbands rather than the husband moving in with her parents. Sorry, I am just not seeing what you're seeing. Senior living centers abound. Multi-generational is the anomaly.

Offhand, I think Italy is known for sons that never move out and as a result, have to drive their dates to "lovers lanes" as the old Italian mamas won't let the sons bring their dates home for action. For a comedic look at this phenomenon, see the "Failure To Launch" trailer on Youtube . . .

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Current trend? Really? Every American family I have ever known did not have grandparents living with them, going back decades. I had to watch the 70s TV show The Waltons to see the multi-generational thing and they were depicting the 30s. Every 18-year-old who goes off to college has moved out from their parents home. All of my siblings and I moved out when we turned 18-19. All of my aunts and uncles, born in 1920s and later, moved out. Before that, my grandmother and her brother emigrated to America, leaving their parents behind. When young women get married, they go live with their husbands rather than the husband moving in with her parents. Sorry, I am just not seeing what you're seeing. Senior living centers abound. Multi-generational is the anomaly.

Originally Posted by CPRA

Offhand, I think Italy is known for sons that never move out and as a result, have to drive their dates to "lovers lanes" as the old Italian mamas won't let the sons bring their dates home for action. For a comedic look at this phenomenon, see the "Failure To Launch" trailer on Youtube . . .

Well, I never had any one night stands, I never plan to. My parents never saw me bring another girl to the house so I don't have a problem like this lol. I only bring 1-2 buddies at my house to hangout.I only plan to rent an office or use one of the rooms in my grandma's house when she passes away for work. Most of these social issues are not a problem for me as I have very few people around me.Only reason for me to move out is for quiet environment and that will mostly go away with renting an office etc..

I love kids, they're wonderful.

Your not truly a Ghost. You lack experience in life. I do not fault you for that. There is also anger. A ghost is very contented being what he is; has nothing to prove and is the true anarchist in his own heart; he is his own kingdom. It matters not where he lives or what others do; there is no concern; being free; he lives free; no matter the enviroment. he has fully accepted everything just as it is and has no desire to change anything. Having no boundaries; he imposes none. he has no fight in the game; for he has abandoned the game altogether. All his archetypes are neutralized

Originally Posted by Noneed2be2

Your not truly a Ghost. You lack experience in life. I do not fault you for that. There is also anger.

Anger?When did stating facts made people angry?
Next time,start engaging in more conditions and learn about someone THEN comment,instead of trying to intervene in one.Because I will NOT get into a detailed conversation with people that intervened in one.

I will only leave one friends quote here:
"People always shame others that do not live like them. It was also stated in Matrix movie, the whole matrix turns against you when you don't live by their standards .They can't admit the stupid mistakes they did"

Originally Posted by user97972

Anger?When did stating facts made people angry?
Next time,start engaging in more conditions and learn about someone THEN comment,instead of trying to intervene in one.Because I will NOT get into a detailed conversation with people that intervened in one.

I will only leave one friends quote here:
"People always shame others that do not live like them. It was also stated in Matrix movie, the whole matrix turns against you when you don't live by their standards .They can't admit the stupid mistakes they did"

I do not see it as shaming.

Flip the script and see it as an opportunity to explore the world and gain life experience.

There are many ghosts that prefer isolation or solitude. But that is a great misconception about ghosts. Ghosts actually interact with the world more but just on their own terms.

So if you are interacting with the world when you want that is good but if you lack experience that may make it harder to ghost in the future when your parents are no longer around.

Ghosting has been described as a lone wolf, introverted, isolationist, monk, mode, etc lifestyle. But ghosting to me means that I determine the terms of how and when I interact with the world so if you are doing that young man you are on the right path!

But don't take it personally when other older men tell you that you need more life experience because it is true. As you grow older you will realize that ghosting becomes easier when you gain life experience and wisdom. I find personally that my ability to ghost became better when I lived away from my parents but that is just my opinion.