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    Sandman AMA Thread

    When: Tuesday March 25th through Thursday March 28th


    Post your question to Sandman here. Please one question per member. Feel free to post your question in advance of the AMA.

    Note: Please be mindful of continuously engaging our guest after receiving your answer. He needs time to get to all the various questions.


    Introduction: Welcome Sandman! As an intro, Sandman is a MGTOW video blogger on YouTube. Sandman has made a name for himself by making videos which explain key MGTOW concepts oftentimes in ten minutes or less. His videos are succinct, thoughtful, and crisp. With personal observation, tight argumentation, and creative & colorful ways of expressing himself, Sandman has imparted wisdom on life as a man in the 21st century. Sandman has a keen eye for social and interpersonal dynamics, an insight into people. I'll let Sandman take it from here to fill in any blanks about his background. We're thrilled to have Sandman here at GYOW and looking forward to the next three days of conversation.




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    re: Sandman AMA Thread

    my question is this:

    what is the next stage of society as feminism destroys it? is the collapse going to be slow and take generations, or immediate? will we lose infrastructure, or will the transition be more smooth than the usual collapses seen in history? what will women's role be after feminism is dead?

    basically, what is the future for a society that once again has men in control?

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    re: Sandman AMA Thread

    My question:

    Do you feel that contaminants in the environment, like BPA, xenoestroestrogens in plastics, and synthetic female birth control in the water supply have played a role in the feminization of men, and the increase in the male gay population? Do you think these chemicals are affecting the hormonal balance in women and men and making women more aggressive?

    Related relevant links: The Disappearing Male on Vimeo
    Xenoestrogen - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    BPA-Free Plastics Might Not Be As Safe As You Think They Are
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    re: Sandman AMA Thread

    Media: The more I continue to try to immerse myself in my preferred media of choice, the worse it seems to get, degenerating into the usual beta male shaming messages getting pushed on to the target audience. I noted in another thread that I quite despise Wil Wheaton, John and Hank Green, Laci Green, Randall Munroe, among others I've forgotten to mention. These people have taken the geek media I love, and projected hate towards men in one form or another. Wheaton and Munroe tend to do nothing but lash out against those involved in Men's Rights, Wheaton in particular tends to employ radical "tumblr feminism", John and Hank Green are starting a sexual violence advocacy "task force" based upon pre-existing rules (which means the Duluth model and everything that comes with it), and Laci Green was awesome until she asked if Philip Defranco was an MRA or a Feminist - the fat screaming hint from hell that she makes it political, and will project those messages into her videos. Where can a MGTOW go to get some fine geek media that isn't dripping in the hormones of greedy women?

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    re: Sandman AMA Thread

    My question is this: What is your predictions on the future of feminized school systems, along with the extent of negative effects on men that are forced into this indoctrination process? Also, what is your plan should the marriage industry collapse in our lifetime?
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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    Can there be a way that any and all MGTOW's or MRA's can use our keyboards to make our voices heard? Women's are able to mount serious email and internet presence and it would be good if we could also.

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    Question Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    Question; Commentators like Barbarosa and Stardusk believe that there is no utility in debating feminists, and in fact, through debate, we give them attention that somehow validates them. I however, see advantage in challenging their (frequently) poor logic - not to convince them to change their minds, but to discredit them to the eyes of third party observers who might otherwise take them seriously. How do you view the issue? Is there any point in debating feminists, particularly in forums, blogs, academic settings, or similar venues?

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    My question;

    What advice would you give for MGTOWs who want to contribute and fight for the cause?

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    When I see how you deconstructed a shaming phrase like "midlife crisis", I can't help but feel badly for all those men who are being subject to humiliation - from their wife, from the woman around them, from the television they watch - for simply trying to put themselves first for a change and enjoy their limited time. Men are becoming 'red pill' but it's still a small fraction of the whole. Then, I think about culture-wide phenomena like "Singles Day" in China which is simply massive in scale - acknowledging the legitimacy of being single; e-commerce records have been shattered with people buying things for themselves (as opposed to their S.O.). Putting aside the material dimension of it, it seems that mainstream cultural events like these have a broad audience and reach beyond those who consider themselves MGTOW. Can MGTOWs play a role in shaping these cultural events here in America (and elsewhere). More broadly, what are the prospects of us attempting to communicate to people beyond those who self-identify as MGTOW?

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    To what extent do you believe that collectivist ideas are responsible for sustaining and spreading misandry and other kinds of wrong-headed effects like affirmative action and high taxation?

    Is there a socialist or political underpinning to all of this?

    eg Women particpate as "equals" only after receiving significant wealth transfers from men. This requires high taxation, which in turn is only accepted by a population that has accepted collectivist ideas such as generous welfare.

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    The collapse will not be equally distributed as we have been seeing in recent years. Each place will collapse as its ability to pay for and access fossil fuels dwindles. I have lived in two economies that have faced economic collapse. Former Yugoslavia and Cuba. Both countries in the 1990s when they had energy shortages. Typically in a society as it fails hypergamy runs wild. Women up their game to access the resources of the remaining alpha males. Feminism will die and women will once again return to having children in their late teens and early twenties. Women will be less educated and have less options. We might also need to tear up the family court system. Without accessible health care women cannot have children safely in their thirties.

    Some places will see 40-50 years of slow drawn out collapse. (IE North America - The North East) And some places will see faster decline. It all depends on their availability of food, energy and access to credit. It will take a few decades for our infrastructure to fully fall apart. Roads first of course. We will be heading back to steam power, ships, trains with the newer technologies of solar and wind. Food production will become expensive and more difficult as we erode the soil and have issues with
    getting the soil nutrients we need for crops.

    Think of the world as an age of steampunk.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdcinsf View Post
    Can there be a way that any and all MGTOW's or MRA's can use our keyboards to make our voices heard? Women's are able to mount serious email and internet presence and it would be good if we could also.
    I think keyboards are antiquated. We need to focus on using video to spread our message but we need to increase our production values and engage people on a more emotional level. Content that shows female nature in action on the street is the best. Interview women, show how foolish they are and share it with everyone. Big Red the Feminist here in Toronto did more for our cause then we can possibly imagine. My jaw dropped the first time I saw her and I will forever think of her as the prototypical feminist as will many other men. Produce video content, entertain and inform, make money from it and invest the money into new content. Perpetual motion.

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    Islam? How about them apples?

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    Question: How much of the information from the 'manosphere' do you consume? Do you spend much time on Blogs, youtube channels, websites, etc, or more time just observing people's behaviour in your daily life? Do you visit feminist or traditionalist sources frequently?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    Question: How much of the information from the 'manosphere' do you consume? Do you spend much time on Blogs, youtube channels, websites, etc, or more time just observing people's behaviour in your daily life? Do you visit feminist or traditionalist sources frequently?
    I used to spend 30 minutes a day on MGTOWForums.com when it was open. Now I spend 5-10 minutes per day here lurking and reading new posts. I don't really read blogs but focus on watching MGTOW videos on youtube. I watch Honey Badger Hangouts, Thinking Ape, Mayor of MGTOW and Redunkulous on youtube. I work more then I spend time watching videos. When I work I observe human behaviour for sure. But I spend 4x the amount of time each day producing content then consuming it. And no I don't watch feminist content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Islam? How about them apples?
    I think Islam was great during its golden age. It brought an early enlightenment to the world and men were free to be liberal thinkers. But that changed about 800-900 years ago and that empire went into decline because it stopped valuing it's liberal thinkers and stopped being open minded.

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    An early - perhaps founding - source of MGTOW concepts, techniques and information is to be found within the pages of Rob Fedders of "No Ma'am" blog". For example, his introduction page "Men Going their Own Way (MGTOW)" is dated January 29, 2001 - more then 13 years ago! Myself I didn't come across the term MGTOW until mid-to -late 2004 to early 2005 (I'm a 'partial'-expat).
    Source: NO MA'AM: Men Going Their Own Way (MGTOW)

    Would you consider covering some of his topics?, perhaps even promote this invaluable treasure-trove of information? I find many topics covered today on many MGTOW sites were already discussed/explained on his site. Rather then the 'dog-chasing-the-tail' in circles men could quickly 'get-up-to-speed' and then move into and expand or create new areas.

    For example:

    No Ma'am Table of Contents
    NO MA'AM

    MRM (MHRM) vs. MGTOW in the chapter titled, "Bull Herding in the MRM".
    NO MA'AM: Bull Herding in the MRM

    Hypergamy and Briffault's Law were covered here (back in Jan 23, 2006)
    NO MA'AM: Hypergamy and Briffault's Law

    Male and Female: Equal but Different is a yin/yang eye-opener:
    NO MA'AM: Male and Female: Equal but Different

    Why Men Shouldn't Argue with Women - Very important!:
    NO MA'AM: Social Strategy: Why Men Shouldn't Argue with Women

    Why Marriage is Fraud:
    http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2008/02/q...ave-right.html

    The Liberation of Men
    http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2013/04/t...on-of-men.html

    MGTOW 'Activism' is covered here back on April 10, 2006:
    NO MA'AM: MGTOW Activism - Part One
    http://no-maam.blogspot.ca/2013/04/m...-part-two.html




    EW
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    Sandman..

    As the coffers dry up and this gynocentric welfare train crawls to a stop, do you see a single man tax being implemented and if so what type? A flat accros the board rate, a progressive tax....maybe even a percentage of overall income.

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    Re: Sandman AMA Thread

    Welcome and thanks for entertaining us for a couple of days.

    My question is: What impact do you think same sex marriages, particularly lesbian marriages will have on issues of child custody, child support, alimony and division of property. How will the court decide which partner is the "man"? Do you see the outrage of this small percentage of the female population experiencing what men do in family court enough to make lasting change in the family court system?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheLoneWolfWalker View Post
    My question is this: What is your predictions on the future of feminized school systems, along with the extent of negative effects on men that are forced into this indoctrination process? Also, what is your plan should the marriage industry collapse in our lifetime?
    The feminized school system will crash once the tax revenue is no longer in place to operate schools. That's still a long way away but kids will be home schooled via the internet. Not sure about the timeline for that.

    With regards to the idea the mariage industry will crash. I don't think it will. Women will push for it more if things get worse. And even if it crashes the women in the dating pool will still be the same. They won't change their nature overnight so I'll stay single and hire a surrogate mother.


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