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    Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    As much as I enjoy a good rant on the shortcomings of female nature as much as any MGTOW, Im noticing most of our threads are now increasingly "circling the drain," revolving around the folly of the worthless sex. I include my own threads in this as well.

    I'd like to make a conscious shift in topic to what lies beyond the red pill rage... To that great unknown.

    To use the ever popular Matrix analogy, lets stop talking about the Matrix (Gynocentrism) and look about our new world with new eyes. What do we see? What can we hear? Is there anything else out there...?

    While I can become frustrated at the daily display of gynocentrism, for the most part I merely disregard it entirely as irrelevant, which has made my life much more enjoyable, and simple.

    For the most part I feel Im over the red pill rage, and as Stardusk would put it, reached escape velocity.

    I love that analogy.... Escape velocity. When you've raged yourself out of the atmosphere, until suddenly there's nothing left pushing back, and suddenly your floating in space. You've broken free of earths gravity and are now exploring the final frontier, the inky blackness of space. (All credit to escape velocity belongs to Stardusk).

    I feel that much of our time spent here is peering down at earth, still bemoaning the idiocracy that will inevitably ensue. What I propose in this thread is that we lean back, take the controls and keep exploring beyond.

    This is why Im such a huge Stardusk fan; I believe he excels at this, and is continually pushing onward into the great unknown.

    So what have you found, Brothers? A new philosophy? A new set of goals? No goals? A new passion? Embracing Laissez faire?

    For me, after Red Pill Rage I felt like a character in a video game after beating it. But instead of the credits rolling, the character is still just standing there. The controller still works. I can go about anywhere I want in the game... But Ive already beat it.

    I've already been married (and divorced), Ive procreated, Ive fought in two wars, Im an advanced scuba diver, an A-license Skydiver, a competitive shooter and Ive fucked all the girls Ive ever wanted to.

    In a nutshell... I've crossed everything off my bucket list, and Im not yet 35. Soooo..... At this point Im just starting a new list of fun shit to do. I'm buying a drum set this weekend, fuck it! Looks like fun!
    Then I plan on doing some deep dives this summer to some awesome wrecks. The cherry is Wingsuit BASE jumping in Europe... My new pinnacle of desire. To fly like an eagle/fighter jet with no engine, just my own body and some fabric... And big fucking balls.

    But part of me is also wanting to pursue more dangerous hobbies because... Well... One of my grandparents is turning 95. That life fucking sucks. I have another that is completely out of her mind... Has no idea who she is and hates life... But is still miserably hobbling around in her 90s.

    The one truth that I know is that I NEVER want to be there. I never want to make it to 90. I know it sounds insane, but Id rather take a tree limb to the face at 120MPH in my 40's than be a babbling lunatic in his 90's wondering who these goddamn strangers are.

    I have no debt, my car is paid off and I have enough money in the bank to buy a tiny house/park home in cash along with living expenses. My daughters future college tuition is already paid off. I have health coverage for life.

    I can basically go anywhere, and do anything. I'm still young... But not for long. So Brothers, those of you exploring the bounds of the New World... Any recommendations? Externally? (The globe), Internally? (Philosophy, religion)....

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    If it can kill you, it's a sport, not a hobby. And remember, it just might mess you up without killing you.

    Long ago I was a very good weekend skier, and have been a biker my entire adult life. So I've done my share of risky shit, though a Wingsuit's far crazier than anything I ever looked at. Am not sorry I did it, but looking back, I have to say a lot of money and effort went into those sports. Could those resources have been used more wisely? At the time I thought it a great idea. Many long years later I'm not so sure, but since those day's made me who I am, that's just the way it goes.
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    As I know you are a Marine, it doesn't surprise me that you are adventurous and bold and would not want to float in space with engines on idle. Not for long, anyway. I'm a little concerned that you appear to want to die young, going out in a blaze of glory. There's gotta be a way to navigate your passions and goals without placing a deadline against them. You should keep in mind that each decade in one's life brings new perspectives, new discoveries, new passions and goals not seen before. The finite future you are projecting from in your thirties will not cooperate to be the same future once you are in your forties and fifties. Also, those babbling 90-year-olds may have got that way for lack of mental exercise. I don't think you will have that problem.

    Do you want a challenge to add to your list? I notice that all your accomplishments are physical ones, as you are a kinetic guy. So, instead, do something outside of that. Earn a different kind of merit badge that those ones you have.

    Help others. Do volunteer work. Make pleasing other people your goal instead of pleasing yourself. If not now, then sometime later, down the road. Helping others can take you anywhere on earth. The possibilities are rich and vast, as are the rewards. Seems you, more than others, have the resources and the talent to contemplate these possibilities.

    It's just an idea. My hunch is that you will excel at whatever you decide to do.
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Then what would you recommend Frog? It's your kind of experience Im seeking; should I use my resources more wisely? More aptly put: would YOU use your resources and youth differently if you were to go back?

    I stand at a precipice; Ive accomplished every milestone I set for myself. To be honest I never thought I would make it. Now I feel completely free from angst, dread or fear... I've done everything in life I set out to do.

    Not to sound morbid, and in NO way am I suicidal, (quite the contrary, Im loving life!) but if it all ended tomorrow I would die happy. It's actually a wonderful feeling. I kind of feel like I'm living in the mythical "happily ever after". I'm pursuing the arts now, music, exploration of all things new. Things I couldn't do before when I had such immense responsibilities.

    But I also have a strong pull to "cut away". It's a skydiving term... The literal meaning is to cut away your main parachute (usually in the case of a main malfunction) and descend back into freefall before pulling your reserve chute.

    The spiritual "cutaway" is to drop all that is not absolutely necessary to life, and chase the rush. These are people who sometimes live in tents at the dropzone and save every last penny to go more extreme.... These are the folks you see on YouTube flying a wing suit through a narrow canyon pass effortlessly.

    It's their life's passion. And Ive got the itch.

    So again, I find myself at a precipice; I could either settle down at the top, enjoy high speed Internet porn and awesome video games without a care in the world... Or I could jump into the abyss and see how far I can take it.

    Wingsuit BASE jumping isn't a weekend hobby... You either live it (takes years of training to even do 1 jump) or never attempt.

    I'm really, REALLY tempted to cutaway, go all in. But from the older, wiser sages here... Am I just teasing a midlife crisis, or do you say Jump?


    (Let me caveat once more, Im NOT in any way suicidal, Im just an adrenaline junkie

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    You should keep in mind that each decade in one's life brings new perspectives, new discoveries, new passions and goals not seen before. The finite future you are projecting from in your thirties will not cooperate to be the same future once you are in your forties and fifties.
    Unboxxed, this is exactly what makes me pause instead of jump immediately. The decisions made in my teens were total idiocy in hindsight. Same can be said for my 20's. (when I got married-now happily divorced )

    What you said about internal, or mental achievements gives me thought as well. I've found a rekindled interest in Buddhism and Taoism since going ghost... To the point that Ive also considered getting a one way ticket to Asia to live with Monks for a year. Do some serious internal work.

    As you can tell Im an all-or-nothing type, so I'm wanting to make a well thought out decision before tearing down another 10 year adventure.

    I greatly appreciate all your advice so far!

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Definitely get out and see anything of the world that excites you.

    Diving ... what wrecks, where? Outer Banks? New Jersey coast? Florida Keys and warm clear water? Or maybe the long trek to Truk, or maybe even Bikini Atoll and the wrecks of the Crossroads atomic tests?

    I've done a modest share of diving, though in the past few years diving has become a big part of my vacations. I enjoy underwater photography, and I'm more interested in the sea-life on the outside of shipwrecks than in prowling around inside the wrecks - your mileage may vary. I will confess to being an "air hog," and I cope with that by using side-mount doubles -- which, I've been soberly advised, is an "entry drug to technical diving."

    Beyond that, you're talking about wing-suit BASE jumping ... I've never made a parachute jump. I have logged 1200 hours as a pilot, flying small planes, most of it in my own rag-wing Piper Tri-Pacer. I haven't flown that way for years, but I am tempted to try para-gliding -- I mean, para-soaring, with one of those high-aspect soaring 'parachutes' that I've seen flying over the seaside cliffs of the Miraflores district of Lima, Peru. (Maybe it's age, maybe it's 'aviating' experience, but I find the soaring perspective more tempting than the 'rush' of the wing-suit experience ... but that's just me.)

    I will say this, from the perspective of an old fogey, thirty-plus years older than you: Age isn't just a state of mind, but I find my life at 62 more enjoyable, more fulfilling, more exciting, than I felt about my life at "not yet 35." Probably a big contributor is the fact that I took financial care of my "Single Mom" after she retired ... when I was nearly 32, we bought the townhouse where I'm still living ... and by the time she'd Gone West, when I was 48, I'd already accepted the notion that I was "too old and set in my ways" to seek out a Cupcake who would share my life and my decline into Old Age.

    Whatever you do with the decades of your future -- enjoy them to the fullest! Dum Vivimus, Vivamus!
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    A most excellent thread, Mountain Man! Rep is incoming.

    I would encourage you to chase the things that interest you, even be they risky. I've done plenty of closed course sportbike racing, car racing, and flying (although not as much as our snorkeling statesman has!). I don't regret a single moment of the time spent, the money gone, or the risks taken (and I've spent WAAAAY too much money and been injured badly too many times). That time, money, and pain were all traded for experiences that will last a lifetime.

    Your post is also timely. Literally just last night, I reached a major milestone in my two and a half year red pill journey through the anger phase -- I stopped caring that the women I see around me are fat, narcissistic, and irritating. Because I truly don't want to ever be with any of them. Not a one! I was able in a moment to let go of so much resentment and anger, it was quite refreshing. Today, I found my ability to completely ignore them, and not care what they looked like, how they were dressed, or what their attitudes were has been dramatically expanded. I may yet make it all the way through the anger phase sane!
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    A mill rat didn't make much, so it's not like I had a lot if investment's. Was also so hyper back then that I really needed those sports. Had I stayed in town, there's no telling what kind of trouble I'd a got into. Jail time, like as not. So I don't think I could do any better with a second chance.

    Nothing's to crazy if you want it bad enough. Will you eventually wish you'd got a prime vacation home instead? Only you can answer that, and you might get old before you find out.

    I'm completely unofficial about it, and it's not my life's work. But helping deserving people who don't expect it warm's my black heart. Recently I gave up on a truck I was building. I'd a lost my ass had I sold it, so I gave a very large pile of parts to three old friend's with car's of their own. You should of seen it, three tough guys just blown away. Stuff like that's what I'll remember when I'm really old.
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Find the snorkel:



    (Hint: It's in my pocket.)
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    I am in a similar boat and while I have done much in terms of travel, activities, and hobbies I too have a lot to do still and learn. I definitely want to plan trips to Asia, Africa and South America as those are goals top priority to me.

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by ManontheMountain View Post
    So what have you found, Brothers? A new philosophy? A new set of goals? No goals? A new passion? Embracing Laissez faire?
    I discussed this with a friend of mine lately. He still has a girlfriend, but he knows my views, and is starting to see things differently as well. He thinks I ended up with a new identity. Identity, meaning identification of the self. He thought I used to have goals which relied on external judgement and validation such as a girlfriend, social status, a career, making other people happy etc. This is a correct observation. Now I hold myself to much lower standards, and most of the time, I simply engage myself in activities I want to engage in. At the end of the day I ask myself, did I take good care of myself today? Usually the answer is yes, but more importantly, I am the one who is judging and validating my behaviour, instead of others. My friend noted that therefore my mental state is likely to be more stable.

    Right now I focus tranquillity, wealth and climbing. Money is still a thing for me, so that's the wealth part. I focus on doing my job well, and applying for other jobs, keeping my finances in check. Tranquillity really is rest. For me it's important to stay fit, relaxed and at peace with my life. So the focus here is on enough sleep, meditation and taking a break whenever needed.

    Climbing is my new hobby. It always was a hobby, but since so many 'goals' went out of the window with the red pill, this has replaced them to a lesser extent. Here off course I focus on climbing, but also health and training that supports my climbing (varying from finger-muscle exercises to running long distances). I'm already climbing routes which I didn't think were possible and I'm very dedicated to climb Khan Tenghri in the Tien Shan region someday (that's a new goal).

    All in all life has become much easier, and I am happier.

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by ikbenrein View Post
    I discussed this with a friend of mine lately. He still has a girlfriend, but he knows my views, and is starting to see things differently as well. He thinks I ended up with a new identity. Identity, meaning identification of the self. He thought I used to have goals which relied on external judgement and validation such as a girlfriend, social status, a career, making other people happy etc. This is a correct observation. Now I hold myself to much lower standards, and most of the time, I simply engage myself in activities I want to engage in. At the end of the day I ask myself, did I take good care of myself today? Usually the answer is yes, but more importantly, I am the one who is judging and validating my behaviour, instead of others. My friend noted that therefore my mental state is likely to be more stable.

    Right now I focus tranquillity, wealth and climbing. Money is still a thing for me, so that's the wealth part. I focus on doing my job well, and applying for other jobs, keeping my finances in check. Tranquillity really is rest. For me it's important to stay fit, relaxed and at peace with my life. So the focus here is on enough sleep, meditation and taking a break whenever needed.

    Climbing is my new hobby. It always was a hobby, but since so many 'goals' went out of the window with the red pill, this has replaced them to a lesser extent. Here off course I focus on climbing, but also health and training that supports my climbing (varying from finger-muscle exercises to running long distances). I'm already climbing routes which I didn't think were possible and I'm very dedicated to climb Khan Tenghri in the Tien Shan region someday (that's a new goal).

    All in all life has become much easier, and I am happier.
    Indeed life becomes easier when you are able to focus on yourself. It feels like you can tackle any challenge in front of you, because you have self examined yourself and have taken care of business with financial currency but also emotional currency.

    Channeling that uneasiness and uncertainty into productivity has yielded you results that will only carry onto new endeavors. And yes it is hard to explain this all to people that don't understand the mindset behind going your own way but they definitely notice the positive outlook you have on your own life for sure.

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    I feel that much of our time spent here is peering down at earth, still bemoaning the idiocracy that will inevitably ensue. What I propose in this thread is that we lean back, take the controls and keep exploring beyond.
    I fully share your message Man, and I'm really glad to hear it. But before going anywhere, we have to lean back at peer down at ourselves.

    From youtube videos to articles, I like to keep up with the "intellectual" side of the Red Pill, and I can safely assure that sometimes it just gets way out of hand. Women get portrayed as beings devoid of any kind of agency, controlled by this force or that cycle. MGTOW strength is, and has always been, in the "down-to-earth" events. You might intelectually agree with all the theories that are being put in front of you, but all the marriage horror stories are the ones that end up pushing you to go your own way.

    I think completely moving past the "shitposting" would do us more harm than good. On the one hand, the constant reminders of gynocentrism and overall bullshit make us remember why we went red pill in the first place, and on the other, the new members that keep constantly coming by get to see that other regular men are sharing their same problems, that they are not being little bitches. If all we had were rethorical digressions, it would be quite hard to relate to, and we would end up losing perspective of reality.

    That being said, I would love to see more intellectual debate myself. Sadly, I (and I suspect almost everybody) don't have enough time to develop and structure solid posts, so I just hop into the train that every so often comes by, and even those don't stay for very long.

    At the end of the day, this page is named "goingyourownway", and the string that ties us all together is our rejection to the current state of the world. While someone like you has already gone through the anger, I'm still struggling with it, and while going my own way has allowed to gain a new perspective and goals of my own, I'm still struggling with my old values. Moving forward is never easy.
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltySpoon View Post
    On the one hand, the constant reminders of gynocentrism and overall bullshit make us remember why we went red pill in the first place, and on the other, the new members that keep constantly coming by get to see that other regular men are sharing their same problems
    I will re-post here something that I wrote elsewhere a long time ago, before I joined this website, that kinda covers where ManontheMountain is headed as well as what you say, I think:

    I would suppose that, in theory, the ultimate MGTOW is the man who has transcended the conversation, who does not stick around to comment about his realizations, who no longer reacts to the mind-expanding effects of the red pill that he took. Having become sure-footed in his path, this quiet man is hard to identify, yet walks among us.

    If there is merit to that supposition, then those who educate about MGTOW, those who post online, say, are a bit like the porters of an underground railroad. They are not only doers but helpers, men who temporarily pause their own transcendence into invisibility long enough to reach out to other men, to confirm with them an actualization that is not facilitated by women. I think I have waited all my life to see this happen.
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by ikbenrein View Post
    Tranquillity really is rest. For me it's important to stay fit, relaxed and at peace with my life. So the focus here is on enough sleep, meditation and taking a break.
    Dude, This! It's amazing how great I feel with 8-10 hours of sleep every night. With a full nights rest everyday is enjoyable, even a work day. I used to burn both ends of the candle and get a bout 6 hours of sleep or less, but was miserable and rather grumpy throughout the day. As a MGTOW we have made the space in our lives for true introspection. We can experiment with the small things in life (like sleep) and fine tune our days to suit us exactly. This is something the blue pill man will never know.

    Ikbenrein, your post really struck a nerve with me, as I had a similar encounter not long ago with a long time blue pill friend. We'd been friends since college and I was always the guy chasing tail and getting laid. It had become my persona... We only meet up once a year or so, and be couldn't believe I had gone Ghost MGTOW. (I had to explain what that was). He Flat out couldn't accept it. Suddenly we were on two different planets; none of his values were shared by me anymore. All of his accomplishments were somewhat sad and worthless to me, as mine were to him.

    I was, in some way, a loser to him now. As he was to me. His life's work is now keeping wife happy and hosting boring married people parties. Mine is keeping ME happy.

    Beijaflor and Victor, truly inspiring and I'll keep pushing the envelope! It's great to hear that life is that awesome at 62 Beijaflor, it really calms my angst about getting older. Your still rocking out like your in your 20's!

    As for diving, Ive only "Dove the Graveyard" here in the Atlantic. Outer Banks area mostly. My next dive planned is the U-352, a sunken Nazi Submarine shot down by the coast guard in 1942. She's in around 120 ft deep water, so it will be my deepest dive to date. (Will be using Nitrox). I'm waiting for the water to get warmer though!

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by ManontheMountain View Post
    The one truth that I know is that I NEVER want to be there. I never want to make it to 90. I know it sounds insane, but Id rather take a tree limb to the face at 120MPH in my 40's than be a babbling lunatic in his 90's wondering who these goddamn strangers are.
    Reminds me of the question regarding one's epitaph: "Would you rather your tombstone read 'he lived 90 years,' or 'for 90 years he LIVED?'"
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltySpoon View Post
    I think completely moving past the "shitposting" would do us more harm than good. On the one hand, the constant reminders of gynocentrism and overall bullshit make us remember why we went red pill in the first place, and on the other, the new members that keep constantly coming by get to see that other regular men are sharing their same problems, that they are not being little bitches. If all we had were rethorical digressions, it would be quite hard to relate to, and we would end up losing perspective of reality.

    That being said, I would love to see more intellectual debate myself. Sadly, I (and I suspect almost everybody) don't have enough time to develop and structure solid posts, so I just hop into the train that every so often comes by, and even those don't stay for very long.
    I agree and in no way advocate for GYOW forums to move past talking about the horrors of gynocentrism. It is, in essence, THE red pill. The most important factor which binds us, as you said.

    I want to have this thread as a discussion to go beyond and see what we as Men do next, to sing alongside the chorus of other red pill knowledge and peer through the looking glass, to see what the future might hold... spiritually, intellectually, physically and mentally.

    For my intellectual musings of the day, a MGTOW short story/poem written by ManontheMountain, just now:

    I awoke to find myself running. Running in a cold sweat, in fear... Fear of failing, of not finishing the race, of not hitting the milestones placed in front of me fast enough. I had been running this race every day for my entire life. The finish line was still another forty to sixty years ahead of me, I have such a long way to go yet, before I can rest. Up the hill I go, gritting my teeth and focusing on the hard trail, until around a bend I find two Brothers enjoying the sights.

    "The Race, why aren't you running the race! Surely you'll lose if you don't keep up!" I cried.

    "Brother... Don't you see? There is no race. There is no finish line but what you make of it. You don't have to run on the main trail anymore, in fact, we were just discussing how these side trails are by far the most sanguine."

    The Brothers smiled openly as I slowed to a stroll, gasping for breath, perplexed at what was put before me.

    The next Brother spoke: "We chose to finish our run a few miles back, now we're just exploring the side trails and discussing the creation of a new one. Your more than welcome to join us, if you'd like."

    I gazed at the long, hard beaten trail with disgust and contempt. Why had I been so hard pressed to follow it so? I couldn't even remember when I started to run the race, or why, or what the hell was supposed to be worth all of this misery at the end of it.

    "It's okay to be angry Brother, we sure were before we finished. But look... It's such a beautiful day!"

    And a beautiful day it was. The first day of limitless possibilities. I could go on with my new trail mates, or wander on my own for a spell. I breathed in the fresh air, scented with pine needles and gazed at the distant snow capped mountains. From there I saw an Eagle fly.

    "Brothers, I can't thank you enough for your wisdom. I think I'm going to have a closer look at that Mountain, but I hope we meet back up down the trail."

    And with that, I was off on my new adventure.

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    I got a few years on BeijaFlor, so your getting an old guys take on things.

    Your trying to decide if base jumping's worth it. If it's the thrill of flight you want, great. If it's that, and you like the idea of doing something no one else would look at, that's cool. If your mostly doing it for bragging rights, that's ok, but bragging rights won't mean much to you thirty years from now. Don't get me wrong, they'll mean something, just not as much.

    You'd probably make a fine jumper, if that's what you want.
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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    I can't go beyond the red pill rage since I never went through the red pill rage.

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    Re: Beyond Red Pill Rage: Achieving Escape Velocity and exploring a New World

    To use the ever popular Matrix analogy, lets stop talking about the Matrix (Gynocentrism) and look about our new world with new eyes. What do we see? What can we hear? Is there anything else out there...?
    This is precisely the discussion what we need.

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



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