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    FEATURED -- Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan's Troubling Economy

    Grass Fed: Herbivore Men and Japanís Troubling Economy
    writer: Kyojiro Kagenuma,
    editor: BeijaFlor
    In this article, I want to share the significant impact of the Herbivore Culture on Japanís economy.

    ďWonít Someone Think of the Children?Ē

    In retrospect, itís quite amazing how the Herbivore Culture could slip through societal awareness for so long without attracting attention. The first indicator were the Parasite Singles phenomenon back in 2000 but it was largely ignored, then the rise of the Otaku Culture between 2001 and 2007 (Azuma, H 2009) and Japan's high suicide rates; these were all indicator of a larger problem that society did not see.

    The reason why the last 5 years there has been significant interest in Herbivore Men is the primary concern of Japanís Birth Rate Crisis. Japan could not ignore this. To give you an idea, a local school in Nanmoku, 85 miles from Tokyo, had 1,250 first graders 50 years ago. In 2012, it had only 37.

    Where are the children? There are no children.

    2010 began what has become the dramatic effect of the Herbivore culture which saw the population shrinking with negative percentages in annual population growth. With the birth rate of 1.39, Japan will see a future with more elderly unable to retire, a national debt of 1.1 trillion dollars that they cannot hope to pay without a much needed labor force, and the government not able to support Japanís social welfare.

    As more and more Herbivore men ďGo GaltĒ and simply refuse to marry and father children, what many observers predict is a financial catastrophe of a colossal scale. Japan is of course worried, and people inside and outside of government are proposing plans to encourage more men and women to marry and have children. One example is from Morinaga Tokuro, an economic analyst who in 2012 proposed an absurd Handsome Tax saying ďIf we impose a handsome tax on men who look good to correct the injustice only slightly, then it will become easier for ugly men to find love, and the number of people getting married will increase.Ē Under this proposal, the wealthy and handsome Herbivore Man will be taxed 80%. (Beth, 2011 Handsome Tax).

    He was not joking; the Japanese are just that quirky.

    Death and Taxes

    I doubt very much any further tax imposed on the Herbivore men would have any effect. A married salaryman with an annual base salary of 10 million Yen (approximately US$100,000)would receive and allowance of 30,000 to 40,000 Yen or $300 - 400 monthly from his wife. Theaverage Herbivore man can earn 6 million Yen annually; after income tax, this would yield 3.6 million Yen or $36,000 net, which amounts to 300,000 Yen or $3000 monthly. Deduct monthly cost of living at the outskirts of Tokyo, which is 120,000 Yen, the Herbivore Man will still have a disposable income of 180,000 Yen, or $1800 - about 5 times more disposable income than if he was married. (Note: These figures are approximate. Since May 2013 the exchange rate has fluctuated around US$1 = 100 Yen.)

    If we consider the Handsome Tax of a Herbivore man who is earning 10 million annually and is taxed 80%, with other factors constant, his monthly disposable income would be 46,000 Yen or $451; still higher than the allowance a married salaryman would be likely to get from his wife. I must clarify that the Japanese Government gives many incentives to married couples with children and I gave an overly simplified example. However, it is worthwhile to see that even with taxes imposed on wealthy and handsome Herbivore men, it will likely not have any impact considering the heavy cost of having children that includes food, day care, school tuition, housing, car and insurance.

    Add to this, the rising trend of suicide in men and work-related deaths due to depression, job loss and fatigue. In 2009, 32,845 Japanese killed themselves, 70% of them male (Brown, AM 2010). Japan has an average suicide rate of 30,0000 people annually for 14 years straight until 2012 with an average of 10,000 deaths due to overwork (Demetriou, D 2009). The National Police Agency attributed 1 in 4 suicides as financially motivated where borrowers of financial loan kill themselves so that their loan can be paid off with their life insurance. Japanís suicide rate is one of the highest in the world according to the World Health Organization, with no indication of decline.

    Men would rather die than make their friends and families financial slaves. Herbivore men would rather live alone than be enslaved in this fashion.

    The Downward Spiral
    Understandably, Morinaga Tokuroís proposal seemed desperate. Well, Japan is beginning to feel desperate. I read an article in the New York Times (Harney, A 2012) where the writer, Alexandra Harney proposed,

    a) subsidizing public day care in an attempt to make child care more affordable
    b) employ younger, more skilled labor and discourage overtime in favor of family time
    c) employ more women, and give incentives for women to return to work after childbirth

    Wow, talk about the fastest way to ruin a country. Her suggestion is echoed by many writers of her kind in the western world. Instead of arguing her suggestion, I would like to point out that this writer absolutely did not address the actual problem i.e. young men and women are not having babies, there are no new families because they donít want to make a family and, this is the most important part, Japanese women donít want to work.

    In a 2011 article in Time Magazine, Sylvia Ann Hewlett said that data from the Center of Work-Life Policy showed that Japanese women with college degrees are 74% more likely to voluntarily quit their job, and that 63% of those who quit cite that ďtheir career was not satisfying enoughĒ (Hewlett, SA 2011). A government survey by the Health, Labor and Welfare Ministry in 2013 showed that 1 in 3 of women wants to settle down and just remain a housewife (JapanToday, 2011).

    Both Hewlett and Harney argued that Japanese women are being sidelined because of societal pressure to be stay at home mothers, stated that day care is expensive, and advocated flexible work hours Ė all to accommodate women, willfully ignoring that the many of young Japanese women do not want children and simply do not wish to work.

    If the Japanese government continues to push pro-women policies in the workforce while disregarding the birth rate crisis and Japanís aging and shrinking tax base, Japan would likely plunge further into debt, the cost of living would rise and people would have to work longer hours to try to earn more, resulting an increase in fatigue, stress, mental problems and work-related suicide.

    Only this time, itís the women in the workforce who are going to kill themselves, or at least kill each other. Iím not saying thatís a good thing though.

    Made In Japan

    How would this affect Herbivore Men? Nothing that wouldnít affect everyone else twofold.

    Herbivore men are generally cautious and wary of their future and the economy, looking toward preservation and sustainability rather than consumption and conquest. Necessity is the mother of invention and in Japanís worsening economy, the preservation and sustainability of Herbivore Men provides that necessity in which ingenuity and innovation to thrive. As Herbivore Culture grow in consumer market in Japan we should see a shift in purchasing power from women to men.

    Bear with me on this; what this would do is create new products and services that are uniquely male-oriented, just as video games had been uniquely male for the best part of 30 years. We can see today how video games have grown from a geek culture to global culture, all thanks to Pong, Pac Man and everyone with a penis. The Otaku culture, another pre-dominantly male space and industry, is estimated to have market size of 2 trillion Yen in 2005 (Geek Spending Power, 2005).

    Men created an industry when no industry existed before.

    Sony, JVC, Casio, Toyota, Honda, Canon, Ricoh, Nintendo, Olympus, Panasonic, Seiko; the list just goes on and on of the many things Japanese made which are held with great esteem once or still. It was the Japanese automotive, electric and electronic products that made them rise from a nuclear testing ground to the third largest economy in the world paved by menís ingenuity and innovation.

    What Shinzo Abe, and other vagina worshippers like him fail to see, is that the solution does not lie with pandering to women but instead the government and the economy needs to encourage men. What the Japanese have forgotten is that at the end of the Second World War right up to Japanís economic boom in the 1980ís, what made Japan so prosperous and advance is their inclination towards ingenuity and innovation carried out by the men of Japan.

    Back then, when you had something that said ďMade in JapanĒ, you knew it was the best. Hereís hoping that our brothers in Japan find the same ingenuity and innovation to bring them out of economic abyss.

    Links, Citations,
    Azuma, H 2009 Otaku Minneapolis University of Minnesota Press.

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    Re: Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan's Troubling Economy

    The 10,000 character limit is a pain

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    Re: Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan's Troubling Economy

    I'll repeat the same comment I wrote on the last thread. "Married with children equals a 95% effective tax rate".

    A lot of trad-cons say that children are the future and that they will look after you with old age. That might be true in some cases, but I have seen too many people leave their elderly parents in nursing homes, rarely visit and more or less just waiting for them to die so they can get the inheritance. It is all well and good to say that Japan needs more children, but that is because they don't shoulder the majority of the burden. Men do and the payoffs are not worthwhile to bother with it, working 80 hour weeks plus every week to support a wife and two kids, basically being a donkey where everyone gets a ride.

    A "Handsome Tax" is just ridiculous, what would more likely happen would be a 12% Singles Tax like in the USSR, that combined with the family package benefits that married couples get would make the tax effectively closer to 30% but the headline figure will only say 12%.

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    Re: Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan's Troubling Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyojiro Kagenuma View Post
    The 10,000 character limit is a pain
    Yes it is.
    I find Japan to be just really interesting in general. You're articles on this herbivore man have my attention. Low birth rate, men opting out of marriage, women who they expect to replace missing men in the work force don't even want to work, donkey husbands. From where I'm sitting it looks like a culture that is about to have a meltdown. This will happen to other cultures after for sure, but it's happening right now in Japan for all to behold.

    Please continue to share your research on the herbivore man as well as all these other things in Japan. The collapse from within of an entire civilized, first world culture is a scary thought. Your study on this can give the rest of us a model to observe of what we may be facing soon.

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    Re: Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan's Troubling Economy

    The Herbivore experience in Japan - or, as I believe the Japanese Powers-That-Be see it, the "Herbivore Crisis" - is a test case for the rest of us to follow. Here's a country where a significant percentage of young men look at the demands of marriage and the soul-crushing "salaryman" life, and are saying, "Hell, no, we won't go!" Instead of conforming to the expectations of their society, harnessing themselves to a wife and career, they're going their own way. And the PTB are near to shitting themselves. They have reason to do so, with a tanked birthrate, a greying population, a stagnant and sinking economy, and a whole lot of young men - who "should be the backbone of the nation" - downing tools and saying, "Fix it yourself."

    Hope nobody will be offended if I call it Japan's social & demographic "Fuck-You-Shima." (Trying for a pun, here.)

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    Hey Kyrojiro, Has the Japanese government cracked down on contraceptives and abortion? Birth control in general? I would think that would be one of the first casualties of a nation short on babies..... That would certainly make a man think twice about casual sex, were it the case.
    Very informative article, thanks for taking the time.

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    Re: Grass Fed 2: Herbivore Men and Japan's Troubling Economy

    Quote Originally Posted by FapMaster View Post
    Hey Kyrojiro, Has the Japanese government cracked down on contraceptives and abortion? Birth control in general? I would think that would be one of the first casualties of a nation short on babies..... That would certainly make a man think twice about casual sex, were it the case.
    Very informative article, thanks for taking the time.
    Abortion is illegal in Japan unless the conception is the result of rape according to Japanese law. Oral contraceptives has been made legal by the Ministry of Health, Labor and Welfare in 2011. However, getting tangible figures on Birth Control in Japan is difficult so I can't quote you exact figures

    Thanks for reaing FapMaster!

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    "Men would rather die than make their friends and families financial slaves. Herbivore men would rather live alone than be enslaved in this fashion."

    Despite men typically being in that selfless state of mind, we are still seen as mere grease for the wheels. A shame really but we can clearly adapt faster than the fools who think they can stop the ship they damaged from sinking.


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