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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Don't lol

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    I noticed the OP was from 2014. Over the past few years, I think this has become common knowledge, at least in red pill circles -- that to date a single mother is a bad decision. If you search "single mothers" on Youtube, for instance, you will get an avalanche of videos warning you against dating them. I assume Youtube will crack down on that eventually, but for now, the word is out. Has been for years, I'd say.

    I wish I'd known about this myself, because I married a single mom back in 2000. Didn't work out well, but that's a story for another day.

    A single mom just moved in across the street from me. She's 40, but she's still somewhat attractive. We've talked a few times. She's stressed by all her sudden responsibilities, having to take care of everything herself. Her husband had a pre-nup that apparently held up in court, so she's not as flush with cash as other divorcees might be. She has an auto-immune disorder and is on partial disability, works part time. I found her drunk on her porch once and quickly departed. She seems sort of prickly, like she gets easily defensive about stuff. Moody. She's always on her phone, and she's got a lot of country-looking guys who stop by to help her out with various chores around the house.

    One time, she told me, "I need to find myself a sugar daddy." I laughed, because I thought she was kidding around, but she said she was serious. I played it polite, but I should've told her to set up a profile on seekingarrangements.com and see what sort of business she should drum up. Can you still be a sugar baby at 40? Who knows. Sugar mommy, maybe.

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    It's sad they never see it coming till it's way too late. It worked for their hippie grandmas and punk mothers, why shouldn't it work for them? I reckon that's how most single moms see it. They don't realize that the world changes as their value diminishes, and that the gravy train they enjoyed their entire life is gone with the wind.
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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I noticed the OP was from 2014. Over the past few years, I think this has become common knowledge, at least in red pill circles -- that to date a single mother is a bad decision. If you search "single mothers" on Youtube, for instance, you will get an avalanche of videos warning you against dating them. I assume Youtube will crack down on that eventually, but for now, the word is out. Has been for years, I'd say.

    I wish I'd known about this myself, because I married a single mom back in 2000. Didn't work out well, but that's a story for another day.

    A single mom just moved in across the street from me. She's 40, but she's still somewhat attractive. We've talked a few times. She's stressed by all her sudden responsibilities, having to take care of everything herself. Her husband had a pre-nup that apparently held up in court, so she's not as flush with cash as other divorcees might be. She has an auto-immune disorder and is on partial disability, works part time. I found her drunk on her porch once and quickly departed. She seems sort of prickly, like she gets easily defensive about stuff. Moody. She's always on her phone, and she's got a lot of country-looking guys who stop by to help her out with various chores around the house.

    One time, she told me, "I need to find myself a sugar daddy." I laughed, because I thought she was kidding around, but she said she was serious. I played it polite, but I should've told her to set up a profile on seekingarrangements.com and see what sort of business she should drum up. Can you still be a sugar baby at 40? Who knows. Sugar mommy, maybe.
    I explored the whole Sugar Baby thing a few years back. I was in still in my early 40's and would get women in their late 40's to even 60's messaging me. It was sad. By that age I kind of expect even women to have their shit together and be somewhat financially self sufficient. Not to mention the term Sugar Baby, it implies a younger woman.

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    1/ HER kid(s) will always come first. Which is only natural but it is HER kid, not YOUR kid. Do you really want to be second best to some other dudes child?
    2/ As OP mentions, kid will most likely not like you. Or worse, they will get very attached.
    3/ Problems with her Ex otherwise known as her kids father. Do you really want that? You are basically trampling all over the family that he has been locked out of. You get to see his kids every day while he has visitations only! Tell me that ain't fucked up!
    4/ Money. Kids cost money.
    5/ Anything fun you wanted to do will now be multiplied, a trip to the movies? No longer x1 or x2 tickets. A meal out? Holidaying somewhere nice? Yep.
    6/ They are mental.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    I explored the whole Sugar Baby thing a few years back. I was in still in my early 40's and would get women in their late 40's to even 60's messaging me. It was sad. By that age I kind of expect even women to have their shit together and be somewhat financially self sufficient. Not to mention the term Sugar Baby, it implies a younger woman.
    Women in their late 40s and even 60's, looking for sugar daddies. Wow.

    I agree with your list and will toss in two of my own:

    7. Not only will her kids come first, but her relationship with her kid will become a vortex into which most of the psychological energy of the relationship gets sucked. At least that's what happened for me.

    8. They've already been through a marriage in which they gave their heart fully to a man, and it did not work out. They entered their first marriage with great hopes and dreams, and it ended in painful failure and disappointment. Once that happens, they don't look at marriage with the same hope and idealism that they did before. They are more jaded, more "realistic" and practical about it, less willing and capable of investing themselves psychologically and emotionally. So when you marry a single mom (one who's been married before, anyhow), you'll be getting someone who's less able/willing to really invest in the relationship and love you with her whole heart and soul.

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Women in their late 40s and even 60's, looking for sugar daddies. Wow.

    I agree with your list and will toss in two of my own:

    7. Not only will her kids come first, but her relationship with her kid will become a vortex into which most of the psychological energy of the relationship gets sucked. At least that's what happened for me.

    8. They've already been through a marriage in which they gave their heart fully to a man, and it did not work out. They entered their first marriage with great hopes and dreams, and it ended in painful failure and disappointment. Once that happens, they don't look at marriage with the same hope and idealism that they did before. They are more jaded, more "realistic" and practical about it, less willing and capable of investing themselves psychologically and emotionally. So when you marry a single mom (one who's been married before, anyhow), you'll be getting someone who's less able/willing to really invest in the relationship and love you with her whole heart and soul.
    The only option for a man is to treat them like whores, give them no emotional investments, no favors, no assistance, and let them support you. Or, don't bother with them at all.

    You either go straight to the bottom morally, swiftly, objectively, unabashedly, or get taken there unwillingly, slowly, painfully, one piece at a time!

    Dive in, or KEEP-OUT!

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The only option for a man is to treat them like whores, give them no emotional investments, no favors, no assistance, and let them support you. Or, don't bother with them at all.
    Indeed. Interactions with women are best as putting in as little as possible for a very clear (and limited) benefit in mind. The less you offer, the less they can take.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The only option for a man is to treat them like whores, give them no emotional investments, no favors, no assistance, and let them support you. Or, don't bother with them at all.
    I don't see it quite that harshly. I don't see a need to "treat them like whores," for example. To me, treating people with disrespect just makes me feel smaller. I prefer to treat people -- yes, even single mothers -- with basic respect and common decency. I only hurt myself and them by treating them like trash.

    I agree that you should avoid becoming a handyman or emotional support to a single mother.

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Chef was a good one, he taught me a lot. I hope he's doing well.

    Another post of Chef's explained how the mans supposed to pay when things are good, yet when the kid gets into trouble your expected to mind your own business.

    Then there was the thread about the stepfather who raised his stepdaughter, paying for everything along the way. When she married, her real father appeared, and everyone but stepdad thought it would be wonderful if he walked his daughter down the isle. That one at least had a happy ending, stepdad pulled the plug and refused to fund the wedding as was first planned.
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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I don't see it quite that harshly. I don't see a need to "treat them like whores," for example. To me, treating people with disrespect just makes me feel smaller. I prefer to treat people -- yes, even single mothers -- with basic respect and common decency. I only hurt myself and them by treating them like trash.

    I agree that you should avoid becoming a handyman or emotional support to a single mother.
    I see youíve never experienced a sInGLe MoThEr lol.

    I have.

    You can only maintain sanity by treating them as damaged goods because they will surely act like it sometimes, and you have to call their bs or they will take whatever you offer, without limit, and without shame.

    You will also come to the realization, if youíre not blinded the Golden Vagina, that all that you are to her is a utility. So, donít expect to be treated as White Knight, because youíre more than likely being used as Captain Save-A-Hoe. MAWALT.

    The kids are used to keep you in check, cuz she knows you are good with them, until you arenít.

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    My pal Malinois has good reason to feel the way he does, a dog breathed bitch well and truly ran him through the meat grinder back when we was rookies. What he says is true.

    But I've not been ground up by any single moms, at least not lately, so I'm more with Eddie on this one. Avoid them like the plague, but don't bother hating them. They ain't worth it. Course I'm old, and might of give you a different answer a few years ago.
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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    My pal Malinois has good reason to feel the way he does, a dog breathed bitch well and truly ran him through the meat grinder back when we was rookies. What he says is true.

    But I've not been ground up by any single moms, at least not lately, so I'm more with Eddie on this one. Avoid them like the plague, but don't bother hating them. They ain't worth it. Course I'm old, and might of give you a different answer a few years ago.
    I guess I still come off as bitter lol

    I try to keep the memories fresh…

    Hating them is giving them too much free rent in your mind, I totally agree.

    But, man, those MILFS can be a whole nuther flavor of wicked lol. It’s really sad to see so many women beyond broken. My hatred is of the system that plants the poison seeds that turn innocent girls into man hating feminists that are offended by testosterone. It ruins their entire lives.

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Single mothers are good for a pump and dump. Just leave the single parents to have relationships among themselves. Let them deal with the clusterfuck of their own making.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malinois View Post
    I see you’ve never experienced a sInGLe MoThEr lol.
    Nope, I've dated single mothers and even been married to one.

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    Re: The Rough Guide to Single Moms

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    Nope, I've dated single mothers and even been married to one.
    How many kids in tow have you tolerated? How many will you tolerate?

    I always saw marriage to a single mother as entering someone else's stomping ground. I had a friend set me up with a hotmommy with three kids, the oldest was about three, I only saw them once when I picked her up, by the end of the night I was so damned spooked, I made no advances on her because my instincts kicked in, I could see she was monkey branching from a desperado's position, If ever I felt like a tree in a forest looking at a wet monkey topped with snow, it was that night out in the early 90's!

    I dropped her off and on my way home I kept asking myself HTF did I get talked into this? In 2015 when I heard the words "monkey branching" this bitch came straight to mind with a chuckle of confirmation!

    I know one thing about MGTOW and HC(hardcore) MGTOW, I laugh my ass off seeing my thoughts and experiences coming from other brothers that figured things out on our own before millions of us got together and started comparing notes!

    To the uninitiated this band of brothers causes mental trauma and soul shock, resulting in a red pill rage rampage when the mind comes completely out of socket! Unfortunately we're all condemned in the limelight for this inescapable side effect and the stampede of ugliness it brings to light!

    All I can advise new comers, like the the rear window of one of my custom built cars said, "get in, sit down, shut up, and hang on!"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    How many kids in tow have you tolerated? How many will you tolerate?
    One and none. My worst experience was being married to a single mom, because there was no escaping the kid, and the kid had some serious behavioral problems, rooted in crappy parenting and an ongoing dysfunctional relationship with her mom, my lovely ex-wife. It was a miserable experience. I often say that their relationship (the one between my ex-wife and her kid) was a vortex into which all the energy of the relationship got sucked. It wasn't that way in the beginning, but things changed.

    I had hopes that "love" would carry the day and everything would work out in the end. Boy was I wrong. I became absolutely miserable in the marriage, felt like my soul was dying, and like I was a security blanket, a wallet, and not much else. I filed for divorce within the first few years of marriage. It was a bad decision on multiple levels.

    I don't date single mothers anymore. I'm in monk mode, so I don't date anyone. Haven't dated anyone for 13 years. But if I were to go back, I'd certainly rule out any single mothers.

    My only point (above) was that I don't see the need to treat single mothers, as a whole, with global disrespect, as "whores" or whatever. I don't hate them; I just don't date them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bubbles1999 View Post
    Don't lol

    Exactly what I was thinking when I saw the topic. Rough guide? lol. Don't do it.


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