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    Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    The whole idea of a site like this is so we can speak freely. The censorship is ridiculous and I have also just received a PM from a member who sounds rather threatening in it as well. Pretty soon we won't be allowed to comment on women or LGBTIQ either. So much for the basis of many MGTOW chats.

    I'm not wanting to make any trouble but at the same time I will not tippy toe around here.

    Delete my account.

    Thanks.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Hi Morlock,

    No doubt you are responding to the recent instance of racist material that was addressed. I would have assumed that our members did not come to this site to enjoy racism. These other things you forecast as being someday banned is simply not true. Please don't let your imagination conquer you here.

    You indicate that you don't want censorship, except when someone sends you a PM that you don't like, then you want censorship?

    That's why I think you are having a normal reaction right now. We are the same site we have always been.

    How about if I check back with you later, just in case you've changed your mind?

    Thank you,

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Just to be clear I am not calling for the person who emailed me to be censored. I am simply removing myself from the situation.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Well, it sounds like you didn't like it and it was over the line. I would rather keep you around and address any violation of TOS, not the other way around.
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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    I know I haven't violated anything but at the same time the censorship thing is just wrong to me. I still want out. Thanks.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Life is funny. I censor myself with every post I write in this forum. I censor myself with the way I walk down the street. With the clothes I wear. How I address my supervisors or waitstaff. The things I say to other people and how I say them. Censorship is part of life. Only 5-year-olds get to say anything they want and even then their parents start them on the path to cultivation. How different my life would be if I defended a freedom to have no boundaries. How many doors would have closed in my life, doors I never knew were there because they were closed.

    And now you view this site as stifling because other people, not you of course, can't say anything they want in this space.

    It'll never make sense to me, Morlock, except when I think back to younger days when stoner friends concluded that everything was entrapment, man.

    Ok, I'll remove your account in a month from the date of your last post on this site, in case you do change your mind in which you will be welcomed back. You can, as you put it, remove yourself from the situation right away. Don't lurk, not even once, or you will have lied to me all along. Live your conviction.

    Good luck to you.
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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    There are things we have to abide by in this world. But when we do have control over what we do and where do it than that is when we should exercise that control. And my control is here, right now. I do not have to be part of this forum and abide by a policy I disagree with. Maybe I never would have cared but that PM really pissed me off.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Oh, wait. So, it IS that PM that is driving your behavior to flee from this site! You're making even less sense to me now, buddy, that you fault the site with all of your attendant comments about that when it is this unreported PM that is at fault. You tell me of this threatening PM except what's in it or who from, you don't want me to do anything about it, and you want me to drop the hatchet on YOU because someone said something uncensored to you.

    Do you enjoy self-immolation, Morlock? Don't flee. Stay! Delete that PM if you don't want to report it. But don't deny yourself your MGTOW privilege to be here based on some trumped up charges of censorship!
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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    I suggest you sleep on it, Morlock. There's no reason to be hasty. Things often look better in the morning.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Oh, wait. So, it IS that PM that is driving your behavior to flee from this site! You're making even less sense to me now, buddy, that you fault the site with all of your attendant comments about that when it is this unreported PM that is at fault. You tell me of this threatening PM except what's in it or who from, you don't want me to do anything about it, and you want me to drop the hatchet on YOU because someone said something uncensored to you.

    Do you enjoy self-immolation, Morlock? Don't flee. Stay! Delete that PM if you don't want to report it. But don't deny yourself your MGTOW privilege to be here based on some trumped up charges of censorship!
    What a shit attitude you have. You can add that to my reasons now as well.

    Enjoy your self importance.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    The threat was from the Admin anyway. No point in trying to protest. From what I am seeing you have all gone ban happy anyway. The site only had a small number of active members as it was.

    Enjoy.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    I wasn't "enjoying" the racism either. I was just pointing out in my own obnoxious way how silly racism is, along with all the other isms people don't like for us to talk about here. Here's a suggestion. If you want to talk about banned material, pm me and I'll give you my e-mail address. Then we can have a private discussion without the interference of anyone who wants to tell us what to talk about. Figure that out, moderators.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Well I slept on it as suggested and I see my posts aren't going through now anyway. Not sure if Unboxxed is trying to get me to stay or leave but the Admin is happy to let me go. So to be very clear, do whatever you need to and Self Ban me.

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    Re: Applying for self ban/account deletion - sites values aren't my values and they clash with MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    Well I slept on it as suggested and I see my posts aren't going through now anyway. Not sure if Unboxxed is trying to get me to stay or leave but the Admin is happy to let me go. So to be very clear, do whatever you need to and Self Ban me.
    What I meant earlier is that you clearly are upset about a PM but it is you whom you want me to take action against and not the sender of the PM. It seemed whacky thinking to me. Like how an alcoholic punishes himself. You now disclose that the PM came from someone you first identified as a member but now you say is Admin. Don't blame me just because you leak the details a little at a time. That's uncool.

    The only kind of "threat" that would be issued to a member of this site by anyone running it would be to threaten a temporary or permanent ban. But a ban was your idea here. So why didn't you tell the Admin who sent you the PM to ban you?

    Banned at your insistence. Thread closed.

    Update: Admin just informed me that member was under Moderation and was told to follow the rules.
    Last edited by Unboxxed; February 25, 2019 at 6:11 PM.
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    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
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    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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