Thread: Jackoff Self-Ban Request

I’m sure many of you have noticed I’ve been becoming more irritable lately. And indeed irritating. I guess the two go hand-in-hand.

Whilst I’m unsure exactly why this is I do know that being a member here is at least part of the problem.

Twice lately I’ve walked away from this site only to return when I had calmed down. This pattern cannot continue and so I ask to be banned to prevent a continuous cycle.

Maybe it’s down to a lack of balance.

Before the lockdowns I could balance the darker side of things – all that’s wrong with the world – with the brighter side – all that’s right with it, and there are a lot of good things about the world I live in. It’s just I don’t get to see much of it these days.

It seems to me that the only way I can restore this balance is to also cut out concentrating so much on what is wrong with society.

Don’t get me wrong, this is not like Cypher in the movie wanting to plug back in to the matrix. I am and always will be a MGHOW and will continue to question the bullshit society tries to throw at us, I just think that a steady diet of it is clouding my vision of reality now that I have little to balance it out with.

And so I take my leave. I think this will be better both for me and this site. I’m becoming much too aggressive and argumentative.

Didn’t someone famous once say “The clever thing is not to have the argument.” or some such?

Huh!

Probably some blue-pilled liberal. (LOL)

Keep up the good work guys of getting the word out. Maybe I’ll drop by from time to time and make a post here in the non-member section.

Merry Christmas to all of you and I hope you all have a very happy new year.

Jackoff.

I feel sorry for where and when you're gonna vent without this recourse! The problem isn't in here, it's OUT THERE! Will miss you and your insightful posts, and I'm sure others feel the same!

You may want to wear a reinforced concrete helmet to minimize the damage when your head EXPLODES!

The bullshit isn't going away anytime soon, in fact it's getting deeper and thicker!

Hope you reconsider.

You can always take a break and just comeback if you ever feel the need, or don't - either way do what ya think is best.

Last time I took a break for 1-2 years from the Mgtow reddit when it was still up, seeing the same shit over and over gets boring and reading the latest stupidity thread about whats going on in the world. Assume ultimately you'll stop caring and literally gyow, or drop by occasionally.

Originally Posted by mgtower

I feel sorry for where and when you're gonna vent without this recourse! The problem isn't in here, it's OUT THERE!

I think venting may be part of the problem. I’m getting used to it. It’s slowly becoming the norm instead of the exception.

Some say venting is a good thing as it allows for release without serious repercussions.

I think maybe I fall into a second category where venting without remedy encourages more of the same, building up until:

Originally Posted by mgtower

You may want to wear a reinforced concrete helmet to minimize the damage when your head EXPLODES!

Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk

You can always take a break and just comeback if you ever feel the need, or don't - either way do what ya think is best.

Last time I took a break for 1-2 years from the Mgtow reddit when it was still up, seeing the same shit over and over gets boring and reading the latest stupidity thread about whats going on in the world. Assume ultimately you'll stop caring and literally gyow, or drop by occasionally.

Without the ban I’d be tempted to reply to posts – the slow lure back. Maybe at some future date I could request to be reinstated, but for now I think a ban will serve me better and will at least prevent me from attacking the views of other members.

I’ve no wish to be the badass hall monitor. If you knew me in real life you’d know that this isn’t who I truly am.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Without the ban I’d be tempted to reply to posts – the slow lure back.

It’s a good exercise to train willpower!

If you have so little willpower that you can’t even stop yourself from participating on a forum like this, then how are you gonna master actual challenges in real life?

Don’t get banned but instead stop looking at this place for a few weeks.
If you do this, you will be proud that you had the willpower to do this and gain confidence and strength.

Originally Posted by Bam

It’s a good exercise to train willpower!

If you have so little willpower that you can’t even stop yourself from participating on a forum like this, then how are you gonna master actual challenges in real life?

Don’t get banned but instead stop looking at this place for a few weeks.
If you do this, you will be proud that you had the willpower to do this and gain confidence and strength.

Self-confidence isn’t the issue, but maybe willpower is, at least in part.

Well spotted Bam.

Are the two related? Yeah probably, but they aren’t identical.

Once I make a decision I will follow through – self-confidence.

Willpower on the other hand, for example to give up smoking, is a fight against addiction and this is what this feels like more so than just making a reasonable choice.

If my account is left open I will be drawn back. It’s like leaving an open pack of cigs in front of someone trying to quit. Remove the temptation and negate the need for willpower.

This raises the question of why am I trying to quit posting here. Look to my O.P., it’s having an undesirable effect on my overall personality.

I’m getting angrier by the day and I don’t want to be an angry old dude.

Does this make any sense at all?

Just look at this. I've requested a ban and yet I'm still posting and not only on this thread. Does this not say something in itself?

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Self-confidence isn’t the issue, but maybe willpower is, at least in part.

Well spotted Bam.

Are the two related? Yeah probably, but they aren’t identical.

Once I make a decision I will follow through – self-confidence.

Willpower on the other hand, for example to give up smoking, is a fight against addiction and this is what this feels like more so than just making a reasonable choice.

If my account is left open I will be drawn back. It’s like leaving an open pack of cigs in front of someone trying to quit. Remove the temptation and negate the need for willpower.

This raises the question of why am I trying to quit posting here. Look to my O.P., it’s having an undesirable effect on my overall personality.

I’m getting angrier by the day and I don’t want to be an angry old dude.

Does this make any sense at all?

Just look at this. I've requested a ban and yet I'm still posting and not only on this thread. Does this not say something in itself?

It makes perfect sense to me, I've seen people go sour and bitter and as of late (2 years) I've been preying to my own personal god that I don't suffer that fate!

Your continued posting only shows you're among like minded men with allot in common, instead of in places we don't fit.

I once had a Fbook account.

I was never into it. Rarely made a post. The posts I did have were redpill as fuck. The last girlfriend I had was horrified when I added her and she deep-dived my comment history. (playboy photos of sexually stimulating women, comments celebrating my independence and ability to do whatever whenever I wished, an electronic data log of the previous girls I'd been with "judging from the nature of their comments").

I deactivated my account and left it that way for years. Once, in a moment of weakness, I realized that I could log back in and view the current happenings of all the "friends" I had on the day of my deactivation. By the nature of my account being deactivated, no one could "unfriend" me removing my access to their post history.

Worst discovery ever.

Embarrassingly, I would log in at an obscene hour of the day when no one would see me "online" and creep on their current lives.

I know why. It defies human nature to be a ghost. To be checked out from society. A primal part of my brain not controlled by logic or stoicism wanted to revisit what I had left behind.

It was a heavy decision to officially delete that account, permanently severing my connection with childhood friends and ex lovers that I will never see or talk to again.

I'm so glad that I did. It's not easy to be a leader in life. It's not easy to go your own way. But the pride gained in doing so is thousands times greater that any pride that could be attained from being a follower and going along with society, even at your own detriment.

In my life, I've struggled with alcohol and drug addiction. I've been sober almost twenty years. In the beginning, the AA meetings helped. It helped to be with others overcoming the same challenges. I haven't been to one of those meetings in a decade. I'm secure in my decision to better my life and never return to self destructive ways.

My addiction to pussy is not so well recovered. Again, with the primal brain instincts. My body compels me to reproduce. The pleasure seeking parts of my brain compel me to seek out a welcoming vagina.

Coming to this forum helps. In the AA meetings there were always men that had been sober longer than I have now, still going to the meetings. It wasn't to help themselves, it was to help the newcomers that were still struggling.

Obviously the internets are a hostile place for redpilled men. This is one of the only safe places a man can go to converse with like minded individuals and gain confidence to blaze their own path even though societal brainwashing will have them believe that is a treasonous act.

Without a doubt reading the harshness of the current realities is dark subject material. It's the same as watching gore videos of industrial workplace fatalities. The benefit of going to the dark place is to remind oneself of the constant danger present and to prevent oneself from being the next victim. The idiots stumbling through life vaguely aware of such dangers yet sure THEY will not suffer the documented consequences WILL be the next victim / fatality.

I encourage you to not deactivate / self ban your account, but to go forward with the goal of helping other men to not be a slave to the pink sleeve and ruin their life through marriage. The words you write will carry more weight to the newcomer with your "senior member" title than they would if you had to start a new account at a later time.

My request has gone unanswered so far, maybe the mods don’t want to ban someone over the Christmas period.

I stand by what I have said already, but of course there’s more:

At least part of my problem is I don’t actually want to desist, I find participating here enjoyable, then again I smoke and drink; I find these enjoyable too even while understanding they are bad for me.

@Manuallaborer

I encourage you to not deactivate / self ban your account, but to go forward with the goal of helping other men to not be a slave

I’ve been going my own way for about 20 years now and this was my primary motivation for joining this forum, not for my own gain although I have gained a lot by being here.


At this time of year I get more than a bit introspective.

Not because of feelz around Christmas, just because one year is coming to an end and another is beginning. A time for me to reflect on the past and plan for the new.



The outside world aside, here on this site we have seen a dropping of the walls with regards registration, and I have to admit it has brought many really great new members, but there are a few who are, let’s say, questionable.

This has added to my frustrations.

I could list a few grievances, but since I’ve already interacted with some of the members involved that may seem like I am trying to highlight them when what I’m really talking about is regardless of who is or may be already here, more are bound to arrive.

Yes I’m a senior member here and have been here for a couple of years, and maybe that carries some weight with some, but really what does that matter? Views are views and I will respect the views of a newbie just as much as a member that has been here longer than I have so long as they are reasonable.

So what is a reasonable view?

That is for each of us to decide for ourselves.

Recently I’ve seen many anti-establishment views coated as red-pill. Any old conspiracy theory will do so long as it’s an attack on the establishment.

I’m sorry, but that is NOT my idea of what it means to be red-pilled. Yes much of the establishment is deeply, deeply flawed but raging against it with arguments that are even more flawed than theirs is not being red-pilled.

So what should I do when I come across such posts?

Should I simply ignore them and let them stand as being representative of MGTOW in general?

Yet if I contradict them I’m accused of being argumentative.

Should people talking shyte not be called out on it, and in no uncertain terms?

Yes I understand there are ways of interacting without provocation and I try to abide by that when I see members as being genuine in their opinions, but there are also some assertions that IMO should be called out for the bullshit that they are in no uncertain terms.

So, if I should remain a member here tell me: how am I meant to address this?

Sit back and say nothing?

Offer another viewpoint in a weak and inoffensive way?

Be as vociferous in my reply as they are in their assertions and risk ongoing contentious argument?

Try to insert a little humour that brings their viewpoints in to focus and so risk admonishment from the mods for being flippant?

There are some that say people that claim to be straight talkers are really just covering for the fact that they’re just cunts underneath.

Maybe there is truth in this for some, but for myself I take the stance of:

If you cannot say what you mean, you cannot mean what you say!

And yes, sometimes that may mean I come across as a bit of a cunt, but what alternative do I have?

Originally Posted by Bam

It’s a good exercise to train willpower!

If you have so little willpower that you can’t even stop yourself from participating on a forum like this, then how are you gonna master actual challenges in real life?



Don’t get banned but instead stop looking at this place for a few weeks.
If you do this, you will be proud that you had the willpower to do this and gain confidence and strength.

I totally agree with this. All you need to do is just exercise willpower and self control. You are the master of your own life. Know when to back away, and when to return. Just focus on your principles. To JackOff.

Wow, what a drama queen! Just leave the forum if you want to. No need to make huge announcements about it.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Wow, what a drama queen! Just leave the forum if you want to. No need to make huge announcements about it.

You have a point.

I requested a ban 3 days ago and it hasn't been forthcoming. I even reported the post to ensure it came to the attention of the mods.

I gave an initial explanation for my request because:

In the past members have quit without explanation and this left other members scratching their heads as to why they asked to be banned, why not just walk away, and I agreed with that assertion;

And because as this post shows, and as I explained in my initial request, I lack the willpower in this instance. I need the ban because I've become addicted.


We post our thoughts on important matters here. O.K. not always that important, but mostly.

We do this to help others understand both where we’re coming from, and to let them know that they’re not alone in their thoughts. We are trying to help.

And so, I express my thoughts on this matter just as I would about other things because I think it’s important for people to know that this can happen to anyone, and that we MGTOW can be extremely self-critical and not just criticise others.

What I wasn’t prepared for is how responses to these posts can become so alluring.

And yes, before anyone else says it, just like a teenage girl looking for affirmation from others.

I have come to detest this trait in myself.


Does that answer your observation?

Originally Posted by UnKnownSurviving

I totally agree with this. All you need to do is just exercise willpower and self control. You are the master of your own life. Know when to back away, and when to return. Just focus on your principles. To JackOff.

I appreciate this sentiment, but IRL when you find your willpower lacking you can try to remove the temptation. This is what I'm trying to do here.

Hi Jackoff,

I am not excited to see you leave. You have been a good contributor. You are conscientious, I've always seen, and I was wondering here if you were merely tripping over your own conscientiousness. Like maybe a phase.

I've been in hospital until late last week and am focusing on a post-op regimen, so that is part of the delay that you see. It was scary. I'd like my head to clear up a little more before I get back to swinging the scimitar. LOL.

I was hoping the delay in honoring your self-ban request might prove that it was just a temporary mood in you, as is sometimes the case with members.

But I see from your explanations here that it is not a temporary mood.

When I have quit things in the past, having them in my immediate vicinity was a temptation to be avoided. I quit drinking many years ago, but I won't enjoy Martinelli's sparkling cider as it tries to imitate the look of wine/champagne. I don't need to orbit that look and feel. I don't need to pretend that I'm drinking.

The first time I quit smoking, I kept an unopened pack of cigarettes on my kitchen window sill so I could say Fuck You to it every time I saw it. A year went by. Something about the time marker of a year. I had thoughts. I opened the pack, I fiddled with the cigarette in my fingers. Was I testing myself? Hell, I started smoking again.

So, I understand the need to keep temptation away from oneself. I'm too lazy to find the Bible verse at the moment, but it not good for others to allow temptation in your vicinity. That would be referring to me. So, I'll come back later to this thread to see if you have anything final to say, then I will ban you at your request.

Thank you and good luck.

Don't go away!

Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7

Don't go away!

Never fear my friend; I will never leave any of you, not in my heart.

Just as many MGTOW before me have posted online, sharing their beliefs and their experiences and then moved on so must I.

It is what I need to do for my own piece of mind. Just like you have your man-cave I must have mine, it’s just my man-cave is not a physical space it’s a mental space, a place in my mind where I can be free from the outside world.

Whichever path we choose to walk, we MGTOW are all brothers. Don’t be sad when one of us chooses to move on, be happy that we are indeed Going Our Own Way, forging the life that is best for us.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

I've been in hospital until late last week and am focusing on a post-op regimen, so that is part of the delay that you see. It was scary. I'd like my head to clear up a little more before I get back to swinging the scimitar. LOL.

Sorry to hear you’ve been ill. I did wonder why you hadn’t been around so much lately but put it down to the time of year, you know Christmas this and Christmas that taking up time.

I won’t pry; I just hope that your recovery goes well.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

I just hope that your recovery goes well.

Thank you.


Member banned at his request.

Member name added to thread title.

Thread moved to Banned Members sub-forum.

Hate to see you leave, brother. But I hope you walk your path with peace. Thanks for the awesome posts.