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    Unhappy i have been feeling horrible about myself

    I hate myself. I am a 29 year old virgin and I am too much of a wimp to approach women and every year that I prolong my virginity, I don't feel like a man. I am very short and I am fat and ugly and I wish my mother ( may that bitch burn in hell right now ) had aborted me. I was a loser before I was born. I had decided that I was not going to commit suicide because I still have hope for myself. For instance I am going to the gym and trying to loose weight and I want to get in shape too. I have been dieting and sleeping more as well. I have been trying to enjoy myself by engaging in hobbies I like to do too. I am also changing my career. I am going back to college soon to work in the medical field. I currently work as a plumber apprentice. I recently gave up drinking and I have quit smoking too. I have no friends and never had a girlfriend ever. I cant trust anybody anymore and i don't feel I need anybody.

    I do have feelings of just giving up hope, but I just cant bring myself to give just quit yet. I am feeling rather down on myself recently and I need any advice and positive opinions that will make me have some if any, any zeal for seeing tomorrow.

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    i am not i am the deal

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Serpents reign View Post
    i am not i am the deal
    Hi Serpents reign,

    I was a loser before I was born.

    I do have feelings of just giving up hope, but I just cant bring myself to give just quit yet. I am feeling rather down on myself recently and I need any advice and positive opinions that will make me have some if any, any zeal for seeing tomorrow.

    Quit what?

    For God's sake, man, if that's how you feel then call your suicide hotline or your local mental health clinic ASAP. Don't place your life in the hands of us non-professionals.

    If you are only having a one-man pity-party, then keep reading...



    Now, I don't know what you mean that you say you are "the deal" but here is the deal before us now:

    As I review your Intro thread from the other day, you had rewritten it to say "I have been a failure with women I considered myself a incel beforehand" (as in past tense) and no woman is going to get in your way, etc. I let you in on that basis.

    You now say:

    I am a 29 year old virgin and I am too much of a wimp to approach women and every year that I prolong my virginity, I don't feel like a man.
    I consider that as you stating women are indeed getting in your way. Blocking you from being happy.

    If you just want to get laid, that's one thing but, in light of the unconventional route your Intro took, I need to revisit your premise for being here and this time I'll ask you the point-blank questions that I usually ask nowadays and should have asked you in your Intro thread:

    1) Do you have hopes for a girlfriend or wife, or of having an emotional relationship with a woman?

    2) If a woman wanted to have an emotional relationship with you, would you let it happen?

    Please make your answers concise and on-point because, whether you remain here or not, this clarity will serve you and will help others help you, whether here or elsewhere.
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Perhaps you should read our guidlines to introducing yourself, you're off to a poor start, but never the less a start...
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Man, you sound like you are in a lot of pain and I feel for your situation.

    We post here because we want to help our fellow man, but the help we offer is through exposing female traits so men don’t fall for the same shit we did or see others doing.

    I spent many years with depression and could tell you all about it, but I fear I may do more harm than good. Seeking such advice online is not a good idea as you will open yourself up to all sorts of bad advice. All I will say is you seem to be doing many of the right things with regards self-improvement, but sometimes more professional help is necessary.

    There is nothing wrong with seeking help, and while I admit it was difficult for me to admit this to a real life person I dread to think what would have happened if I hadn’t. It helped immeasurably although sometimes it didn’t seem so at the time. It is possible to overcome these feelings and find happiness, I know because I managed to do it.

    As Unboxxed says we are not professional therapists. I suggest starting with your G.P. as he / she will be able to point you in the right direction.

    I wish you the best of luck and hope you manage to find your way through this difficult time. Stay strong, you will get there.
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Serpents reign has not logged in since the time of his posts above.

    Seems to me if he was serious about what he wrote he'd be back by now to interact. He may be an angry incel after all.

    If he's checking in without logging in, he still needs to respond to me.

    If he doesn't respond to my two Intro-related questions in the next few days, I will ban him for ignoring mod questions, this is pointed out in the How To Intro sticky that I had previously PM'd him to read.

    After that, he can re-register when he is in a better position to respond and do the Intro process anew, to include my two questions posed here.
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Can't tell if this guy is genuine or not. If he is genuine, I feel sorry for him and wish his the best of luck. But, he needs professional help and no one on this forum can provide that for him.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Can't tell if this guy is genuine or not. If he is genuine, I feel sorry for him and wish his the best of luck. But, he needs professional help and no one on this forum can provide that for him.
    When someone comes on here with the "Oh I am a virgin", "I don't like women but never had a relationship or approached them", or stereotypical stuff like that, to me its usually a troll trying to make us look like idiots. How can anyone be MGTOW when they never even had a relationship or even approached a woman? It makes no sense.

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    When someone comes on here with the "Oh I am a virgin", "I don't like women but never had a relationship or approached them", or stereotypical stuff like that, to me its usually a troll trying to make us look like idiots. How can anyone be MGTOW when they never even had a relationship or even approached a woman? It makes no sense.
    So me being a MGTOW makes no sense ?!

    Yeah, never had a relationship, and never approached a woman !

    Why do I need to get blown up by a landmine, just to understand that they are dangerous ?!

    And ofc I do get attracted to them sexually, just not enough to overcome my revulsion when they start talking. And all this purely instinctive. Dodged all those bullets and landmines.
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    So me being a MGTOW makes no sense ?!

    Yeah, never had a relationship, and never approached a woman !

    Why do I need to get blown up by a landmine, just to understand that they are dangerous ?!

    And ofc I do get attracted to them sexually, just not enough to overcome my revulsion when they start talking. And all this purely instinctive. Dodged all those bullets and landmines.
    Feminism and gynocentrism are so strong in India that man doesn't need a brain to surmise it's all no good for him, making MGTOW in India a no-brainer!
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Feminism and gynocentrism are so strong in India that man doesn't need a brain to surmise it's all no good for him, making MGTOW in India a no-brainer!
    True ! ... and being a nerd with access to internet helps !
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Serpents reign has not logged in since the time of his posts above.

    Seems to me if he was serious about what he wrote he'd be back by now to interact. He may be an angry incel after all.

    If he's checking in without logging in, he still needs to respond to me.

    If he doesn't respond to my two Intro-related questions in the next few days, I will ban him for ignoring mod questions, this is pointed out in the How To Intro sticky that I had previously PM'd him to read.

    After that, he can re-register when he is in a better position to respond and do the Intro process anew, to include my two questions posed here.
    No further response from member who still hasn't logged in since June 21.

    Banned.
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    So me being a MGTOW makes no sense ?!

    Yeah, never had a relationship, and never approached a woman !

    Why do I need to get blown up by a landmine, just to understand that they are dangerous ?!

    And ofc I do get attracted to them sexually, just not enough to overcome my revulsion when they start talking. And all this purely instinctive. Dodged all those bullets and landmines.
    You never been with a women on a personal level. It makes you look like a total incel. Until you have been with a woman on a personal level then you have no say. It's like me saying "I hate Chinese food" but yet I never had Chinese food. See what I'm saying?

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    You never been with a women on a personal level. It makes you look like a total incel. Until you have been with a woman on a personal level then you have no say. It's like me saying "I hate Chinese food" but yet I never had Chinese food. See what I'm saying?
    If I was worried about what anything LOOKS like... I wouldnt be here.

    And your chinese food analogy, I am not saying I hate chinese food, I am saying I dont like the smell or looks of chinese food, and I dont feel like tasting it.

    Just like a pile of poop. I dont like looking at it or its smell. And I am pretty sure I dont like the taste of it, even tho I never tasted it. Or you wanna say that I have no say about taste of poop until I actually taste it ?
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    If I was worried about what anything LOOKS like... I wouldnt be here.

    And your chinese food analogy, I am not saying I hate chinese food, I am saying I dont like the smell or looks of chinese food, and I dont feel like tasting it.

    Just like a pile of poop. I dont like looking at it or its smell. And I am pretty sure I dont like the taste of it, even tho I never tasted it. Or you wanna say that I have no say about taste of poop until I actually taste it ?
    Those are all reasonable and logical deductions!
    The only difference between me and you? I can never quite get the taste of shit out of my mouth!
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    You never been with a women on a personal level. It makes you look like a total incel. Until you have been with a woman on a personal level then you have no say. It's like me saying "I hate Chinese food" but yet I never had Chinese food. See what I'm saying?
    Your Chinese food example does not invalidate all other examples where one can and does see the negative effects borne by others. I've never been in a flood personally but I can imagine what that's like. My sibling touched a hot stove and by her reaction I know I'll never want to do that.

    Not all sexual virgins are rejected incels, contrary to the stereotype. Some have made a considered decision to preempt the entire blue pill consequences by drawing the line at sexual activity. And what a great way to keep a woman away than to make her realize that things will never happen with her.
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    You never been with a women on a personal level. It makes you look like a total incel. Until you have been with a woman on a personal level then you have no say. It's like me saying "I hate Chinese food" but yet I never had Chinese food. See what I'm saying?
    What are you saying?

    That incels can't turn MGTOW? That understanding is beyond them?

    How about blue pillers? Can they become MGTOW?
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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    MGTOWFOREVER is just using a monster truck through the incel arena to make sure he flattens everything! Including what's in the parking lot and down the street! I like his style, he can roll with me anytime!
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!

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    Re: i have been feeling horrible about myself

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    MGTOWFOREVER is just using a monster truck through the incel arena to make sure he flattens everything! Including what's in the parking lot and down the street! I like his style, he can roll with me anytime!
    I understand.

    But many of us came here to MGTOW because of our experiences with women, I fail to understand why incel experiences can't lead them to the same conclusions, even if it is by a different route.
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