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Actual Value
(The link above is one post condensing all the originals from MGTOWForums) Blue pill society has it wrong. They'll tell you that your worth as a man is determined by your success with women. That "real men" are players, are pussy magnets, etc. PUAs certainly believe that- they talk about becoming a better man, but who defines "better"? Women. MGTOWs instead believe in Actual Value (AV). AV is about developing traits that help you navigate and enjoy life; traits that make you a good friend, a good man, and help you reach your goals- whatever they may be. They are not the same as Sexual Market Value (SMV)- which are traits that women find attractive. This article steps through the differences. The original version from MGTOWForums is here.

Female Singledom = Loserdom
Just how does life as a bachelor and bachelorette differ? Given our different biological instincts, men being individualistic and consumed with passions and interests thrive in bachelorhood. Women, craving companionship, don't seek to jump in a different guy's bed every night, but that's what they end up doing; being a 'bachelorette' is rarely a choice. One of my more popular articles on MGTOWForums.

Seeing Beneath the Surface: MGTOW Superglasses
Life is different after you've gone MGTOW. You're in the same world as everyone else, but you interpret it very different than your average blue-pill mangina. Don the MGTOW Superglasses and step into a new reality where the truth reveals itself.

Women aren't Caring, they are Strategic
Besides your mother, women don't care unless there is something in it for them. This explains why they ignore or even have contempt for any male less than alpha, especially if they have any medical ailment. And if you're a beta and you lose a loved one, don't expect any sympathy; if you're an alpha, expect wailing and gnashing of teeth from women in support.

If you're a Man, marrying after 30 is a bad idea
Men age like wine, women age like milk. Our respective SMVs go in different directions at 30 and beyond. Men NEVER have lower SMVs at 30 or later; we become distinguished, our wallets fatten, we gain status. Women, on the other hand, are on the fast-track to irrelevance.

Beware the "Groupie"
An increasing number of modern women play groupie to male alphas, riding the Cock Carousel, showing the utmost respect for such men and forgiving their every trespass. They ignore non-Alpha men, get f*cked and chucked, and wander off the tour bus, psychologically damaged, full of resentment against "men", none the wiser about their errant mate selection criteria, and expecting beta males to wife them up. Be able to spot the groupie.

When the Excuse becomes the Reason
Many women ride the Cock Carousel....by accident. They listen to their 'instinct' not reason, and therefore indulge in wishful thinking. They spread their legs for a man out of their league; wishing against reason the high SMV man will stick around. Predictably, they get dumped. What happens after determines whether she'll spend her next 10 years riding the Carousel and pissing away her sexual prime. Many women rationalize the pump & dump to herself and her friends (to save face and preserve ego). She tells herself she "just wanted sex" (when in actuality she wanted to use sex to land an LTR with the alpha); this excuse becomes the Reason for her continued riding of the carousel.

How to Spot a Female Loser
Women were not made to be independent, unlike men. Therefore, a "loser" in female terms is one who has not attached herself to a productive male; 'losing' in terms relevant to a parasite. Turns out female losers give themselves away with their language (and attitudes). Find out how.

On Hypergamy
No p*ssy passes to women for "being women". Increasingly, I see men exonerating women for engaging in hypergamy- the instinct of a woman to upgrade her man and opt for a man with the traits that would aid her survival in pre-civilization times. Men who benefit from female hypergamy (natural alphas, PUAs) intentionally and unintentionally misrepresent hypergamy to mean: women want the best man. In truth, hypergamy is about idiotic mate selection criteria which has no relevance in the 21st century; and is often used to justify all kinds of awful female behavior including cheating, quitting on her man, and excusing her for not stifling her biological instincts even when it causes her and men so much grief (all humans CAN stifle their instincts).

Mastering Sexual Transmutation
Sex drive is a powerful and healthy thing. When controlled. The blue pill approach is to be led around by one's sex drive, being pulled into relationshits and possibly into the institution of marriage, against all reason. The red pill approach is to channel this powerful instinct into creating energy towards productive activity. Here I write about how I use sex transmutation to accomplish a task that's important but I don't have native interest in.

Female Sexual Strategies
MGTOWs are curious about the world around them and want to understand the dynamics of human behavior, if nothing else, because we are surrounded by other people. Women have increasingly used something called Slut Game, whereas in the past they used Love Game to land a man. The rapidly increasing number of 'never marrieds' women in the recent Census reports suggests just how poorly Slut Game has worked for women.

Women Punch Above their Weight in their 20s, Can't Find a Mate in their 30's
Referencing other works to summarize a point that many have understood on their own- that women aim for men out of their league in their 20s, get f*cked and chucked, and then stumble into their 30s with a fractured psyche and possibly infected with STDS looking a for a beta male fall-back who, increasingly, never shows up.

My Reign of Terror on Answerology
Did you know that I'm a love doctor? It's true. I dispense advice on love and relationships to women on Answerology. They hate my responses, but what can I do? I can't help but speak the truth. I summarize a few exchanges I've had on Answerology.

Beware the Culture
Some MGTOWs think the only problem is women. But what is causing the rapid descent of female decency? The culture. Female biology may be the same but women are highly responsive to cultural cues. These cues strongly influence their behavior. We can't merely point out the symptoms- female entitlement and ridiculous behavior- without being aware of the root cause. Mentioning culture is calling out the elephant in the room.

Post-Carousel Zombie Twat Apocalypse
If you've talked to a post-Carousel woman, it is kind of gross. They've spread their legs for often triple-digits of men; they've lost track of what they let dozens of men do to them, or what they ingested along the way. Many have STDs, they are "wide" down below, and they have more baggage than a jetliner. But there's a bigger problem. They want YOU. To marry them. Now that they're done rolling in the mud and copulating. And they're pretty insistent about it. Sounding the alarm....for your benefit.

Alpha Tokenism
The alpha male is not treated like other males, by women. Women might make progress in the professional world and in their personal lives if they were able to win over the 80% of men. Instead, they accept hollow promises from alpha males in the work world and hollow promises from alpha males at the bar -- in both cases, they get f*cked and are none the wiser. I explore Alpha Tokenism- how alpha males can offer the barest of concessions and women spin that yarn into something much larger, content, and do the needful thereafter in terms of 'rewarding' the Alpha for doing basically nothing. Women once again sabotage themselves with their inferior form of decision-making.

Only Quality Men have GFs/Wives
Our initial instinct may be to think positively about a man who announces that he has a new GF or that he's getting married......until we remember what that actually means.

Vine Swingers Meet their Fate
Women choose to vine-swing, or jump from man to man, for frivolous infractions or because they found a man who gives them more 'gina tingles. This is the official Modus Operandi of the modern woman. Women quit on men for not "holding frame" in situations, drop him, and keep swinging. For women (and perhaps for society), this means finally swinging the vine straight into another tree for a self-induced knockout.

Hypoagency and Resentment
Imagine you never took responsibility for anything. And imagine you kept failing. Can you imagine how angry you would be? Hypoagency and relationship failure (failure that is warranted by her own choices) mean that post-Carousel women in their 30s are ANGRY....and all that displaced anger comes back at you, simply for being a man. Sound like a good move to date her?

Why Explicit Female Sexuality will Lose its Appeal
Female sexuality is ready to jump the shark. The availability of a good is related to its scarcity (or perceived scarcity). That which is flaunted mercilessly and given away is taken for granted. We need air. But we don't cherish it because it's everywhere. With female celebrities (and their lesser-known female imitators) competing with each other to be the most scandalous, heterosexual men are sitting back, yawning, and wondering when one of them will show a little class. Now that would be sexy.

On Various Subjects

Core MGTOW Analysis

PUA: The Good and Bad

Modern Women are Not That Appealing

Female Dating Profiles

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4 Comments

sirreaper - March 11, 2014, 3:27 AM
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An incredible resource.

Kyojiro Kagenuma - March 11, 2014, 7:32 AM
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Originally Posted by sirreaper

An incredible resource.

Indeed, I second it.

Grenade001 - March 11, 2014, 10:57 AM
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There are some very insightful threads in there Jagr, hopefully more men read up on all of it and draw their own conclusions on it.

However, I do hope that they aren't archived on MGTOW Forums forever, the pop-up ads make it a pain to read.