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  • January 15, 2017, 12:28 AM
    BrentusBeast

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    I'll kind of echo some of what has been said, but I don't really care about being part of a movement. Also, to me, MGTOW isn't just about drawing a line in the sand with women, it's about accepting the nature of how everything in society revolves around relationships, dating, marriage, and everything else is just background noise or a temporary stopping point until the things I just mentioned occur. I reject that logic, and MGTOW provides me an outlet to help create the world I want for myself. I'm tired of friendships that are greatly diminished because of bluepill friends having tunnel vision that diminishes friendship by prioritizing it as an afterthought. I'm tired of not being able to experience things with friends I used to be close with, I'm tired of my plans with my friends being cancelled for idiotic reasons all because wifey wants to throw her twatpower around, I'm tired of having good conversations derailed all because a women who is even marginally-attractive enters the room. I don't want to be a part of a movement that tries to override this narrative because the men who allow this to happen to their lives are a lost cause, and I'm not going to waste my creative and emotional energy on those who have been turned into vaginally-obsessed zombies. Instead, I want to accept this as the true nature of society, thus, MGTOW is a strategy for me to continue to live a fulfilling life while the rest of the world chases its tails in this never-ending romantic struggle. Once again, MGTOW is a strategy for living a fulfilling life, not a movement to try to change society's hard-wired indoctrination
  • January 8, 2017, 2:18 AM
    Timmy

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    I agree.
    We care not about the society. We only gather here to exchange opinions about ourselves and our lives.
  • November 24, 2016, 9:10 PM
    Mystic Rodent

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    JasmineJasmine: I wonít deny that to me belongs a small portion of the credit (or blame) for having you banned as a female member. However, there is no reason why you cannot continue to share your insights with us in the capacity of a guest. Indeed, you are free to start your own threads here inside of ďOpposing ViewsĒóas long as the mods consider them to be instructive or edifying. Iím looking forward, therefore, to your next thought-provoking post. If you are as fervent about menís issues as you appear to be, certainly you will not allow the imposition of our forum rules to obstruct your flow of passion and eloquence.
  • November 20, 2016, 9:34 PM
    Unboxxed

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Malinois View Post
    JasmineDos: I like your insight and I'm sure many others here will too, when they get a chance to read it.

    I just want to give you a heads-up though, everyone is going to want to know about where you are coming from.

    I hope you post an intro and stick around, as you certainly seem to have a pretty good grasp on this shit...

    Look forward to reading more of what you have to say...
    Per the moderators, women can have usernames on this site but they must post only in Opposing Views. That means no Intros in the New Intros sub-forum.

    EDIT: After talking more with Moderator(s), women do not get to have hyperlinked usernames (like mine and like yours) which would allow them to post anywhere, but they can be a Guest in the Opposing Views forum and where they may create a username of their own which would not be hyperlinked and would not let them post anywhere else.
  • November 17, 2016, 10:44 PM
    Malinois

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    JasmineDos: I like your insight and I'm sure many others here will too, when they get a chance to read it.

    I just want to give you a heads-up though, everyone is going to want to know about where you are coming from.

    I hope you post an intro and stick around, as you certainly seem to have a pretty good grasp on this shit...

    Look forward to reading more of what you have to say...
  • November 17, 2016, 9:28 PM
    JasmineJasmine

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Society just hates men, period. Black men are men, especially the ones that donít buy into the gynocentric BS, so of course black men are targeted. This is also a divide and conquer strategy. Instead of realizing itís all men, the elites like to have men divide themselves into just black men, or just white men, or just asian men, or whatever it is. A country, an ethnicity, an occupation, a height, whatever it is, the division is put there to get other men to join in on the attack because ďat least itís not me!Ē. But the attacks are constantly and always there. I agree donít get caught. Donít marry a black woman. Donít marry a white woman either. Donít marry at all. The only woman Iíd marry is a 16 year old virgin and with her father deeding over some property to me for the arrangement. Congratulations women, youíve shown me exactly why my forefathers ran the system they did, itís because they understood women and knew how to build a functional society. I of course grew up in a failing society, and itís failing because it doesnít understand women and how selfish, entitled, and destructive they are.
  • November 17, 2016, 9:25 PM
    JasmineJasmine

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Black women in the US are to blame for very many things; its said that absent fathers cause the problems in the black community, but let's be real, the influence and raising has come from the mother, the histrionic combative type that will only escalate issues, is it any wonder we have the problems we're seeing? The fathers aren't there, it's plain to see if they're not there they haven't caused anything (they've not helped, certainly, but direct influence is all on the mothers). I'm with you OP, the more you see what they're like, they only run down other people, taking no responsibility for their own choices. And they can't be told anything. Not only that but they give terrible advice to their friends and families continuing the cycle. MGTOW or not, no-one should be encouraging or accepting their behaviour, go elsewhere
  • September 17, 2016, 2:11 AM
    Nuggets

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Even with so-called "female friends" their attitude is often "go on then, entertain me". Fuck that I'm not here for anybody's entertainment. I'd rather entertain myself and play some nice video games
    Yesterday waiting before a class, the women there could only manage to get attention from a flamboyant gay guy endlessly flapping his gums. He was doing the dancing monkey routine to a T. Of course I'm not gonna walk over and tell him, dude you're being tooled out to entertain these dumbasses, but that's exactly what was going on. He matched their energy level by constantly switching subjects, saying "like" 10x a sentence, and talking about "cool" nostalgic stuff from the 90s like Bill Nye.

    The straight dudes were all like statues, busy with their own shit. I can tell the difference between social anxiety and apathy (or just being fed up). Most guys I see in class fit the second description. They just do not give a shit, they're exhausted with women.
  • September 17, 2016, 1:10 AM
    wool.wizard

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    mgtow is more about personal power than group power. strategies and movements are using organized, group power to achieve greater goals than individual power can attain.

    http://www.wisegeek.org/what-is-the-...d-a-tactic.htm
    Essentially, strategy is the thinking aspect of planning a change, organizing something, or planning a war. It lays out the goals that need to be accomplished and the ideas for achieving those goals. Strategy can be complex multi-layered plans for accomplishing objectives and may give consideration to tactics.
    Oxford University Press
    movement: a group of people working together to advance their shared political, social, or artistic ideas.
    recently, I found a book called The New Celibacy by Gabrielle Brown. she explicitly states that "its goal is personal growth and empowerment." most people in mgtow want power in relationships or in not having relationships, whether they are celibate or not. encouraging other people to have this power is part of individual enthusiasm and success of mgtow.
  • September 17, 2016, 1:05 AM
    Azure Nomad

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    And to add my final thoughts to this thread:

    A movement often is organized and has a leader or comes together under many unifying principles to push or resist for social, religious, cultural, or economic change. But MGTOW doesn't have any leader or leaders and there isn't many unifying principles. The only unifying principles for MGTOW is for a man to go his own way and to avoid marriage. And finally, MGTOW is not organized and in fact very amorphous, because the goal is personal survival as a man. If we can save a man along the way that is a bonus, but a man has to step through that door using their own sheer will power. There is no arm twisting of men to decide to go MGTOW.

    It is a freedom of choice.
  • September 16, 2016, 11:05 PM
    Aintdealingwithyoshit

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    I think that's the most accurate way to describe it, yes. It's just a natural response to the superorganism of feminism. Women think they can dupe men until the end of time, but men aren't that stupid. There are still endless blue pill guys, but women don't get showered with attention nonstop just for being female now, like they did 5 years ago. Guys walk by and ignore their presence totally, I see it all day every day.

    What's the point when you have to first break through the smartphone fortress, then carry the entire conversation while doing the dancing monkey routine? Talking to college women gives me a headache. They just sit there and refuse to act like normal human beings, they're socially retarded. If she's not blatantly acting like you have a dick made of solid gold, don't even bother, just go do something more productive.

    Men pick up on these things. When there are a bunch of men not impressed by the low quality women around them, it feeds on itself. It's almost like guys need PERMISSION from other men to not pedastalize.
    Even with so-called "female friends" their attitude is often "go on then, entertain me". Fuck that I'm not here for anybody's entertainment. I'd rather entertain myself and play some nice video games
  • September 16, 2016, 10:20 PM
    Nuggets

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by wool.wizard View Post
    is mgtow a 'super-organism'?
    I think that's the most accurate way to describe it, yes. It's just a natural response to the superorganism of feminism. Women think they can dupe men until the end of time, but men aren't that stupid. There are still endless blue pill guys, but women don't get showered with attention nonstop just for being female now, like they did 5 years ago. Guys walk by and ignore their presence totally, I see it all day every day.

    What's the point when you have to first break through the smartphone fortress, then carry the entire conversation while doing the dancing monkey routine? Talking to college women gives me a headache. They just sit there and refuse to act like normal human beings, they're socially retarded. If she's not blatantly acting like you have a dick made of solid gold, don't even bother, just go do something more productive.

    Men pick up on these things. When there are a bunch of men not impressed by the low quality women around them, it feeds on itself. It's almost like guys need PERMISSION from other men to not pedastalize.
  • September 16, 2016, 9:54 PM
    Harleys&Beer

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    MGTOW isn't men against anything.

    MGTOW is for:
    >Greater understanding of all things, including, but not limited to, the female psyche
    >Men for themselves and their preservation of their own dignity
    >Recognizing true injustice and attempting to prevent it, through exposing it, from happening to the individual man
    >Sharing experience and by this, learning from each other

    I don't think you grasp who we are and our philosophy, and your thinly veiled attempts to shame us and compare us with other groups will not fool us.
    Fuck off mate.
  • September 16, 2016, 7:19 PM
    Azure Nomad

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    If guys claim one thing and do another. You guys want to promote and grow the community.


    Sounds like MGTOW is becoming a movement to me.
    MGTOW isn't a movement as MGTOW isn't interested in social change...that is what MRAs and feminists try to do...which is social engineer changes while ignoring biological realities between men and women.

    Growth for a movement is done to generate money to further the cause of the group for legal or political actions to make social changes or resist social changes which does not describe MGTOW.

    This is what MRA's do, so no MGTOW isn't a movement. Furthermore, a movement or strike implies once the demands are satisfied that the grievances of the MGTOW go away. The truth is that laws can be changed easily, and these grievances are rooted into biological differences between men and women. Thus, biological underpinnings which also influences culture and the way of life and how we humans interact with culture that is infused with technology.

    Growth of MGTOW is done about through awareness and it is a personal choice, not the choice of a group aka collective movement.
  • September 12, 2016, 2:10 PM
    Unregistered

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Noob, don't come storming in here posting your drivel. We're not a movement and we don't seek to change anything. Go join the MRA for that, you're at the wrong address here. If you want to have any further discussion about this, feel free to use the "opposing views" section.
    If guys claim one thing and do another. You guys want to promote and grow the community.

    Social movements are a type of group action. They are large, sometimes informal, groupings of individuals or organizations which focus on specific political or social issues. In other words, they carry out, resist, or undo a social change.
    Sounds like MGTOW is becoming a movement to me.
  • August 7, 2016, 8:55 AM
    0camxuc

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    mgtow is a natural intelligent response, not a movement as some people try to describe it. It's also not a 'strike'.
  • August 3, 2016, 6:00 PM
    Azure Nomad

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    You can not divide a unit of water up without containers Be like water my friends and go mgtow.
  • July 27, 2016, 5:37 PM
    Insidious_Sid

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    Me either...
    Exactly.

    Oh noes, we excluded the next MGTOW prophet and will never get the privilege of reading his/her amazing story/fabrication. The course of MGTOW has been altered and black holes are opening up everywhere. We're now collectively on the *wrong timeline*. DAMMIT! Not again!

    Whatever.

    There is an initiation ritual here. Men here are rightly skeptical of newcomers and anyone they don't know. Men here are intelligent and realize that people come in all flavors with all kinds of different agendas. The initiation is that you tell a little story about yourself and don't start your stay here as the "answer to MGTOWs problem". It's that fucking simple.

    Compared to feminists, we're as tolerate as feminists and SJWs *think* THEY are.

    They are not. They are intolerant regressive liberal fascists.
  • July 27, 2016, 5:34 PM
    Insidious_Sid

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Indeed! For men, marriage is like getting a bunch of guys getting invited to go on a skydiving trip by a bunch of women, where they have to pay to buy the gas, the plane crashes half the time, and there are only enough parachutes for the women.
    Hahahaha. Yeah, that's exactly what it's like! lmao. And they wonder why we're FINALLY saying NO to this FANTASTIC "deal". hahahaha.
    Thanks for that!
  • July 27, 2016, 4:13 PM
    Neo

    Re: Is mgtow part of a divide and conquer strategy?

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    "I think we..."

    There is no we. Especially when you start off with all this "men and women" and NAWALT and concern trolling.

    Let's see if OPs intro post reveals a true MGTOW in the making or just another purple pill victim.

    I'm not holding my breath.
    Me either...

    Quote Originally Posted by miawmiaw View Post
    i just deleted my story, it feels bad to write something sincerely about one 's life and get an agressive answer, i didn't expect it from an MGTOW, rather from feminist snakes
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