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    Ludwig Von Mises on MGTOW

    " There are many ways by which man may reconcile himself to the transience of the earthly pilgrimage.

    - To the believer, religion brings consolation and courage; it enables him to see himself as a thread in the fabric of eternal life, it assigns to him a place in the imperishable plan of a world creator, and places him beyond time and space, old age and death, high in the celestial pastures.



    - Others find satisfaction in philosophy. They refuse to believe in a beneficent providence, the idea of which conflicts with experience; they disdain the easy solace to be derived from an arbitrary structure of fantasies, from an imaginary scheme designed to create the illusion of a world order different from the order they are forced to recognize around them.

    - But the great mass of men takes another way. Dully and apathetically they succumb to everyday life; they never think beyond the moment, but become slaves of habit and the passions.



    - Between these, however, is a fourth group, consisting of men who do not know where or how to find peace. Such people can no longer believe because they have eaten of the tree of knowledge; they cannot smother their rebellious hearts in apathy; they are too restless and too unbalanced to make the philosophic adjustment to realities. At any price they want to win and hold happiness. With all their might they strain at the bars which imprison their instincts. They will not acquiesce. They want the impossible, seeking happiness not in the striving but in the fulfillment, not in the battle but in victory.

    Such natures cannot tolerate marriage when the wild fire of the first love has begun to die. They make the highest demands upon love itself and they exaggerate the overvaluation of the sexual object. Thus they are doomed, if only for physiological reasons, to experience sooner than more moderate people disappointment in the intimate life of marriage. And this disappointment can easily change to revulsion. Love turns to hate. Life with the once beloved becomes a torment. He who cannot content himself, who is unwilling to moderate the illusions with which he entered a marriage of love, who does not learn to transfer to his children, in sublimated form, those desires which marriage can no longer satisfy—that man is not made for marriage.

    As a social institution marriage is an adjustment of the individual to the social order by which a certain field of activity, with all its tasks and requirements, is assigned to him. Exceptional natures, whose abilities lift them far above the average, cannot support the coercion which such an adjustment to the way of life of the masses must involve. The man who feels within himself the urge to devise and achieve great things, who is prepared to sacrifice his life rather than be false to his mission, will not stifle his urge for the sake of a wife and children. In the life of a genius, however loving, the woman and whatever goes with her occupy a small place.

    -- Even the man of genius whose married life seems to take a normal course, whose attitude to sex does not differ from that of other people, cannot in the long run feel himself bound by marriage without violating his own self. Genius does not allow itself to be hindered by any consideration for the comfort of its fellows even of those closest to it. The ties of marriage become intolerable bonds which the genius tries to cast off or at least to loosen so as to be able to move freely. The married couple must walk side by side amid the rank and file of humanity.

    Whoever wishes to Go His Own Way must break away from marriage."



    (not sure where I found this. Perhaps I even found it here, on this forum. Regardless, I thought I would share this today, with my MGTOW buddies at I found it a valuable summary)

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    Re: Ludwig Von Misses on MGTOW

    Excellent find! And extra irony points for posting a Mises quote while unsustainable debt edifices collapse this month.
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    Re: Ludwig Von Misses on MGTOW

    I also like Friedrich Hayek, but I doubt he would have written anything as sublime as that. He was famously out-talked by Keynes.
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    Re: Ludwig Von Misses on MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    I also like Friedrich Hayek, but I doubt he would have written anything as sublime as that. He was famously out-talked by Keynes.
    And so we are ruled by Keynesians.
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    Re: Ludwig Von Misses on MGTOW

    That's a truly amazing piece of writing. Please sticky or copy it to MGTOW 101 or something.

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    Re: Ludwig Von Misses on MGTOW

    Splendid piece.

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    Re: Ludwig Von Misses on MGTOW

    Moved this thread to "Voices From The Ages."
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    Re: Ludwig Von Mises on MGTOW

    Excellent find. Thanks for posting it.

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    Re: Ludwig Von Mises on MGTOW

    Glad I found this. Thanks to the OP for the find.
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    Re: Ludwig Von Mises on MGTOW

    Marriage, in the modern day, is just for the courts to raise revenue.

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    Re: Ludwig Von Mises on MGTOW

    @Flailer
    It's sad to see what has become of the broader libertarian movement. Jeffrey Tucker is proof of that.
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    Re: Ludwig Von Mises on MGTOW

    Seeing this here, and with myself being a voluntaryist/anarchist, I'm now curious if there's any correlation between the more individual-liberty-oriented political views and the folks that adopt the MGOTOW views.

    I read that there's generally a chasm between MGOTOW and men's rights groups. I'm wondering if it's because one necessarily involves government.


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