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    Nerves

    Hey guys,

    Has anyone come across studies showing men's and women's nerves react exactly the same to physical touch? Where I'm going with this is that if the evidence is there, then we can dismiss the bullshit argument that a punch, slap, scratch, pinch, etc. from a women to a man somehow "doesn't hurt as much" as if a guy were to do it to a woman. This is more so about the domestic violence double standard arguments.

    The only results I could find were for showing women have better "tactile spatial acuity" than men, on average.
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    Re: Nerves

    Society start's early telling boy's to suck it up, and it never stop's. Men just aren't complaining as much.

    Some people can take a lot more pain than other's. Back in pioneer day's people endured wounds that would have us running to the emergency room. But there wasn't much they could do about it, was there? They had to stand up to it.
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    I see your point. Society and parenting is creating the false narrative of "thicker skin" amongst boys/men.
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    you can look for 60 Minutes episode of body parts of men and women being different. the inside of men and women bodies are different material consistency. examples are given by women: a scientist woman and a host woman. you may find it searching for women's issues or health; this was the theme of the story: women are different on the inside.

    the example on tv was about the scientist telling the host to have a pig organ to hold. so, the host was holding a pig organ of a female. the host was holding a pig organ of a male pig. the host was saying the female pig organ was soft. the host said the male pig organ was hard. the scientist was saying the insides of female and male pigs are soft and hard.

    look at a picture of a brain cell, look at a picture of a nerve cell, they look the same. people call the brain a nerve, I remember a long time ago. since the brain is a [part of the] nerve [-ous system], the brain would do the nerve signal interpret.

    google:interpret physical pain brain. I get lots "emotional physical pain relationship" results:
    emotional and physical pain identical in brain, brain scan reveals.

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog...-brain-regions
    With a physical pain, there is an obvious link between the psychological experience of pain and an awareness of a physical location in the body. The pain seems to come from an elbow, or a toe, or a hip. Weirdly, we can feel the physical pain in that location even though most, but not all, of the processing is going on in the brain.
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    The marvel of the nervous system is that even though body sense awareness is largely a creation of cortical complexity, we feel in 3-D: the pain is “in” my knee, that object is “out there” in space, etc.
    ...
    All emotions have a motor component. Even if we try to hide our feelings, there will be micro-momentary muscular activation. The anterior cingulate is located right next to the premotor area, which begins the process of forming an emotional expression in the body. The premotor area connects to the motor cortex above it, and then back to the specific muscles of expression.
    ...
    Emotional pain may be located in the body in those places where an expression was meant to happen but failed to materialize. If I felt like screaming at the person who left the object in the hall, the object that stubbed my toe, but I didn’t actually scream, and in fact, I didn’t take my anger out on the person, I might still have residual muscle tension in my neck, throat, and jaw (holding back my angry scream). That neglectful person, for me, is experienced as a pain in the neck or a pain in the butt (the suppressed urge to kick?) or that I’m fed up (a feeling in my chest and gut that I’m going to burst?). Deeper insults go deeper into the body. Rage and hatred are the ultimate gut feelings, down in the bowels (I’m so mad I could puke; You make me sick to my stomach).
    emotions of women in pain are in the mouth, eyes, and face. men are emotional in more parts of body.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Women have larger tear glands than men - it's caused by the same hormone that makes breast tissue grow.
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    Re: Nerves

    If I'm reading the OP correctly, there seems to be a claim that because estrogen, pain is bigger.
    Because Testosterone, pain is smaller. What a laughable notion.

    To add a little humour to the scene, let's remember a joke together.

    Woman: It hurts more to deliver a baby than to be kicked in the balls.
    Man: Not so.
    Woman: Yes it is so! Shows a pic of crowning childbirth on her cell phone.
    Man: Cringes and says. Yes, that seems truly painful, but...
    Woman: But WHAT!
    Man: Have you ever heard a man say, It's been a few years since I've been
    kicked in the balls. Maybe it's time for another shot in the chones...
    Woman: That doesn't make sense at all.
    Man: How many kids do you want?
    Woman: um... Two or three, maybe.
    Man: Have you ever been kicked in you ovaries?
    Woman: Wait a minute! That's math! Shut up! Just Shut up!

    As for the search keys, I tried Neuroscience alone, Neuroscience and Physiology
    together, added those keys with mass ratios of brain to peripheral nervous system, and
    then tried to find any gender differentiation or bias.

    I got butkus every where I looked.
    Loads of college ads though.

    CT++

    You might be on to something here.
    Stay with it. Play with it. Trade with it.

    It might just be crazy enough to work.

    Good thread in any case.

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    Re: Nerves

    MENSTRUAL CYCLE
    Later Follicular Phase: massive increase of estrogen and testosterone
    -Serotonin – women +30%; levels correlate with estrogen and progesterone
    -overconfident behavior
    -provocative clothing
    -fertile
    Ovulation Phase:
    -Similar to Later Follicular Phase
    Luteal Phase: progesterone increase
    -Similar to pregnancy and contact with infants
    -Warm drinks and reading; “sedated”
    -Birth control pills contain progesterone (mini-pills) plus estrogen (the pill).
    -Progesterone increase 30% during pregnancy
    -Possible decrease in brain function or size similar to pregnancy
    -Possible memory (neurologically or hormonally induced) problems similar to pregnancy
    Later Luteal Phase: progesterone decrease
    -High vulnerability and sensitivity
    -“For most women, their mood reaches its worst 12-24 hours before their [Menstrual Phase] period starts.”

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    Re: Nerves

    Quote Originally Posted by wool.wizard View Post
    MENSTRUAL CYCLE
    Later Follicular Phase: massive increase of estrogen and testosterone
    -Serotonin – women +30%; levels correlate with estrogen and progesterone
    -overconfident behavior
    -provocative clothing
    -fertile
    Ovulation Phase:
    -Similar to Later Follicular Phase
    Luteal Phase: progesterone increase
    -Similar to pregnancy and contact with infants
    -Warm drinks and reading; “sedated”
    -Birth control pills contain progesterone (mini-pills) plus estrogen (the pill).
    -Progesterone increase 30% during pregnancy
    -Possible decrease in brain function or size similar to pregnancy
    -Possible memory (neurologically or hormonally induced) problems similar to pregnancy
    Later Luteal Phase: progesterone decrease
    -High vulnerability and sensitivity
    -“For most women, their mood reaches its worst 12-24 hours before their [Menstrual Phase] period starts.”

    I can't rep the same post twice, so I will just suggest:

    Please tell us more.

    That was a phenomenal intro to a great idea.

    Very well done!

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    Re: Nerves

    This thread is so full of unscientific and illogical assertions.

    First of all, if all it took for a man to give birth, was by kicking himself in the balls (assuming he doesn't have to pay child support) men would be kicking themselves in the balls 24/7 to give birth to children.
    It should be obvious, that even if you aren't a hermaphrodite with balls and a vag, that childbirth should logically entail more severe pain than kicking in the balls. Just as you can logically know, without ever being shot in the knee with a shotgun, that getting shot in the knee with a shotgun is more painful than being kicked in the balls.

    Second, about the sensitivity of the flesh and skin. Estrogen when applied to males increases sensual sensitivity and skin sensitivity. Thus we can conclude, that females have more sensitive skin than sex-typical males. This, is however irrelevant because their pain index is a separate psychological issue, women may have muted pain indexes to compensate for their higher sensitivity. Or they may not. Or, it could vary from person to person, woman to woman.

    But, I'm taking a huge risk here, saying that childbirth is worse than getting kicked in the balls.

    Next, you are going to call me a feminist or something. (Hint: I'm not a feminist, nor am I a secret agent as part of some diabolical secret conspiracy.)
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    Re: Nerves

    Quote Originally Posted by SickSadWorld View Post
    This thread is so full of unscientific and illogical assertions.

    First of all, if all it took for a man to give birth, was by kicking himself in the balls (assuming he doesn't have to pay child support) men would be kicking themselves in the balls 24/7 to give birth to children.
    It should be obvious, that even if you aren't a hermaphrodite with balls and a vag, that childbirth should logically entail more severe pain than kicking in the balls. Just as you can logically know, without ever being shot in the knee with a shotgun, that getting shot in the knee with a shotgun is more painful than being kicked in the balls.

    Second, about the sensitivity of the flesh and skin. Estrogen when applied to males increases sensual sensitivity and skin sensitivity. Thus we can conclude, that females have more sensitive skin than sex-typical males. This, is however irrelevant because their pain index is a separate psychological issue, women may have muted pain indexes to compensate for their higher sensitivity. Or they may not. Or, it could vary from person to person, woman to woman.

    But, I'm taking a huge risk here, saying that childbirth is worse than getting kicked in the balls.

    Next, you are going to call me a feminist or something. (Hint: I'm not a feminist, nor am I a secret agent as part of some diabolical secret conspiracy.)
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    Good advice. I wish you hadn't been banned.

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    I for one am contented with the scientific method.

    So long as dogma is never able to gain a foothold,
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    This is a good premise.
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    Re: Nerves

    Clean out the garage, and look what you miss.

    Who knows LP, but I'd bet money this shitheel was no more of a scientist than I. Their anger struck me as phony too, and you have to remember when it come's to hate and anger, I learned from the best. All they did right was strike hard and fast. A kamikaze troll, that's a new one.

    I think it was a woman trying to sound like an angry man, maybe even one a the crazy's we smoked lately. Did they really report someone? You'd think putting the mod's on to your own dog breath would only get you banned faster.
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    Re: Nerves

    There does seem to be some evidence that women are more sensitive to touch than men.

    In one experiment, people were touched on the back and had to report whether there was one point or two being touched. Not only were women more able to discriminate two points closer together than men, there was no overlap. The least sensitive woman was more sensitive than the most sensitive man.

    It's only one experiment, of course. But there have been many others, and my impression is that the results have been fairly consistent. Men have a higher pain threshold, and can ignore pain in a way that women cannot.

    Childbirth is a poor representation of the general tendency: during childbirth, a woman's system is flooded with hormones that are not normally present. This, perhaps, is one cause of post-natal depression. It's drug withdrawal.

    Women hitting men with impunity isn't about pain - it's about privilege.

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    Re: Nerves

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Clean out the garage, and look what you miss.

    Who knows LP, but I'd bet money this shitheel was no more of a scientist than I. Their anger struck me as phony too, and you have to remember when it come's to hate and anger, I learned from the best. All they did right was strike hard and fast. A kamikaze troll, that's a new one.

    I think it was a woman trying to sound like an angry man, maybe even one a the crazy's we smoked lately. Did they really report someone? You'd think putting the mod's on to your own dog breath would only get you banned faster.
    I just went over some of her other posts. Holy shit! what a hatemonger. I concur. He was a she.

    Somehow I managed to only reply to one post that bore the scent of intellect.

    Good term Frog. Kamikazi troll. I like it.

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