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    The value of freedom of speech

    I was reading maybe about 3-4 times over a time span of a week prisoners comment in another thread it made me think a lot. This is directly directed to Prisoner. They are eliminating free speech all over the world it is not only a phenomena strictly American

    I quoted you because your comment is resonating a lot with me. Freedom of speech is like liberty if you don't have freedom of speech you are not free but merely a slave.

    I quote hereby Prisoner

    "I have always valued the opinions of people from around the globe. Anytime I have said something on here there is someone from another country that has given an opinion that makes me stop and think twice. Even on this thread we have talked about "Is MGTOW Enough" and even gone into talking about Sun Tzu's art of war. However one thing I think all of us have missed is "Freedom of Speech". Now I am hoping that our friends from across the globe have been keeping up on things in America, however there is a direct assault on freedom of speech here. Right now if you support the President in any way, shape or form you are called a racist. If you stand up against feminist then you are automatically a sexist or misogynist. If you are white, even if it is Irish then you are part of Hitler's army and a NAZI. This is all part of trying to silence people that want to improve life for all, and I fucking mean all.

    It is our freedom of speech that allows us to talk on MGTOW and other forums and share our ideas. In the States our first two amendments to our Constitution is "Freedom of Speech and Religion" and "The Right to Keep and Bear Arms". Notice that freedom of speech is first and the right to keep and bear arms is second. That is because freedom of speech and religion was considered to be the most important. Now the second amendment does not actually talk about guns itself, it talks about arms. Arms is everything from a fucking knife to a damn tank and more, arms is anything that can be used as a weapon. The reason for the second amendment is to be able to protect the first amendment. I think when the founding fathers were hammering out these amendments it was a case of which came first, the chicken or the egg. Now I hope that you guys from other parts of the world don't get offended by me harping on the Constitution or America. I am doing this to make a point and a point that I hope you guys will understand.

    Okay on to the point. We have discussed Sun Tzu's Art of War on here along with many other idea's. We have talked about how laws, women etc. have aided in destroying men's lives. However the key word is that we have talked. We have talked because we are free to talk. We are free to discuss our thoughts and ideas with each other, to share ideas with on another. Right now ground zero for taking away this freedom of speech is in America. I cannot tell you how my life is or what I am thinking if I am assumed to be a racist based on the color of my skin. I cannot tell you that I think you should buy a van or what job to take if I am a Nazi because I voted against what another person thinks. It is not my freedom of speech I want to protect, it is yours. I want you to be able to say what you believe, right or wrong and to be heard by everyone. With out your thoughts and idea's all of us suffer and die. The freedom to express your idea's is what keeps me going and I suspect any other man on here also.

    When anyone thinks, we think in words. Words give us the ability to form a thought and the ability to deliver that thought. Once someone says that "Those words are off limits" or "If you say this it means your that" then not just your speech, your actual thinking is off limits. If I was to break MGTOW and make it obsolete, I would start by making any an all speech against women a hate crime. In other words I would make talking about women in a negative light a crime. Then I would go on to say that any thought or speech against women means your a mentally challenged person. Do you all see how damaging this is? This is what is going on in the U.S. right now, I mean since the last election. I got pissed and upset since I have been watching what is going on in the news. Last I heard they were claiming that President Trump had "early onset alzheimer's disease". Well the man is in his 70's so it is not fucking early for starters. My grandfather and my friends mom die of this disease, so I know a fucking thing or two about this shit. However it is a perfect way to shut up or discount what a person says. If you want to know how MGTOW will be shut down or how MGTOW will be stopped, it is with denying the freedom of speech. If you want to know how MGTOW will be stopped, it will be with limiting speech and nothing else. MGTOW is a powerful idea that will only be stopped by restricting speech."
    I am from Germany and I left my country at the age of 25 because I couldn't stand living there anymore . I left everything behind, my family, my loved ones, my friends: Germans are not allowed to question certain things if you question it publicly you will go to jail.
    In Germany you do not have free speech. Germans are not allowed to have their own version of of WWI and WWII being told or shown to the world. Everyone has his version. The Americans, The English, The Russians The French . . . the whole world but not the evil ZZ Germans.

    I did a lot of research on the history of my people I saw my grandfather for 6 years nearly every day when I was a teenager and he told me a lot of things people do not know because it was more convenient to never mention certain things when it comes to history. The winner writes history. The defeated don't.
    Germany, Italy Japan lost the rights to control their media outlets after WW II. Just in case you didn't know that.

    Most Germans don't know their history because they are not allowed to know about their history. So when prisoner is mentioning Adolf Hitler and Nazi's I don't take offence because noone has ever allowed us to understand what actually happened in Germany at that time. Most people do not know what National Socialism was all about. To understand the why of WW II you need to know German history especially the aftermath of WW 1 and The Weimar republic.

    I will not discuss in public German History here if anybody should be interested drop me PM and I will point you in a direction, the research is up to you. PM only if you are sincerely interested otherwise stay away we will save both time.
    Thanks
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    Re: The value of freedom of speech

    This should piss you off then:

    https://finance.yahoo.com/news/study...233618115.html

    Reddit banned "deplorable" subreddits. Ya know, like anything that puts down women, fat people or supports our current President. The war on free speech has begun. Make sure you're on the right side.
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    Re: The value of freedom of speech

    Hi Chuckhed

    Yeah, it definitely pisses me off when free speech and dissent is stiffled. The attacks on free speech are prepped up and getting more and more frequent. Brave new world here we come.

    Make sure you're on the right side.
    IF I have to choose a side than I choose the side of truth.

    Without truth there is nothing left, it has never been in great supply. and it is the most hated thing in this world.
    Thanks for posting the link.
    Cheers
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    Re: The value of freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Born MGTOW View Post
    Hi Chuckhed

    Yeah, it definitely pisses me off when free speech and dissent is stiffled. The attacks on free speech are prepped up and getting more and more frequent. Brave new world here we come.
    don't you mean the era of "Big Sister"?? (the feminists probably think "Big Brother" is sexist) I've read "Brave new world", and all in all.. I think it might be worth looking forward to... given that my so-called "free will" was just a pile of taff.. (with my "thought process disorder".. I figure I was genetically predestined to be single and undateable)
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    Re: The value of freedom of speech

    Hi Eiji

    Yeah you got that right I correct myself "BiG Sister" . . . . Big Brother reminds us too much of the patriarchy and that we can't allow to happen can't we? LOL
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    Re: The value of freedom of speech

    I agree.

    The word 'Nazi' is being thrown about nowadays at levels not seen since 1945.

    Misogynist/Racist/Hitler/Nazi...the list is ever growing. Rarely ever used in an accurate sense they are just examples of shaming tactics used to shut down debate and reasoned discussion.

    I think the majority of older people see through all the name calling and can ignore it for the puerile gesture that it is. The problem is that at the moment - the majority is largely silent.

    The 'noisy' minority gets all the coverage. The media plays its part by going along with this sentiment - so that's all we ever see and hear on the TV. Add that to the dangerously extreme leftist educations that most kids/young adults are receiving and growing up with, the more we find ourselves sitting on a political time bomb.

    I would say that at the moment, it is more of a pain than a problem. However, the longer the 'lefties' are allowed to shut down free speech - the more that balance will be reversed. When the minority becomes the majority, we are all doomed.

    My mother always said that 'the floods will finish us off eventually'. I disagree. I think democracy will finish us off shortly.

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    Re: The value of freedom of speech

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Keyknob View Post
    I think democracy will finish us off shortly.
    the irony....
    "so this is how liberty dies.. with thunderous applause." -- Amidala, "Star Wars" ep 3
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