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    The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

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    Okay, this is probably come off as a rant, but I've noticed a few things about Eastern/Western cultures.


    While I'm not *precisely* Christian, I've spent much time thinking about The Bible, and it's many stories. I was raised Southern-Fried Baptist, and frequently beaten for my Original Sin; so I'm pretty shell-shocked... I sometimes still go into a panic-attack if I hear gospel music or see bible passages in print. It kinda sucks.. but oh well, life goes on.


    While lots of folks only think of the Ten Commandments, I'm much more interested in the Seven Deadly Sins, because these deal with everyday habits and trends of behaviour rather than criminal offenses. They're basically a warning of what can lead to ruin.


    I ain't going to go into Lust, very much, except to say that it is traditionally considered the *MOST* forgiveable, because the old school folks realized that people are animals, and animals like to fuck. It disgusts me that western culture is so fucking hung-up on this, but since studying MGTOW, I can certainly see the damage that it can cause. But even Lust is but a servant of Gluttony.


    Another thing ya might not know. "Sloth" was never mentioned in the old hebrew texts. The sin mentioned was "Despair".. IE, being so wrapped up in your own self-centered misery that you took no action to change what was wrong in your life. It was considered the *MOST* unforgiveable of the Seven. It was changed to "Sloth" in the middle-ages as a way of shaming people into working themselves to death for their feudal lords. Also, nobody in power wants their subjects walking around with a literal religious mandate to curb abuse.


    So back to the topic at hand. Greed and Gluttony... aka East vs West.


    When you say "Greed" alot of asshats immediately think of Jews; it's just a stereotype that everyone has heard about. But why is it a stereotype? Because there is a certain nugget of truth therein. But what I've noticed, especially working in hotels for decades, is that it is by no means confined to the Jewish people. Many hotels are owned by Indian families, and they are notoriously "cheap".. They refuse to spend money under any circumstances. Have you ever noticed that you don't see that many fat Indians? Because they cook at home, and eat sparingly. They often shower only every few days. In the winter the heat is kept low, and in summer the house is sweltering.. Because food, water and power are all consumables, whose value is fleeting...


    This sort of frugal lifestyle builds capital, and they hang onto it like fucking mad. Just like Jewish folks.


    A friend that I used to smoke out with watched Reality-TV all day, and told me about "The Shahs of Sunset" which is about an extremely wealthy Persian family, and said to me "They are old-school jew".. I asked what he meant, so we just watched it.


    There was an particular moment when one of the men, a millionaire dozens of times over; was stressing out about arrangements for a BBQ party of 30 guests; and had to be reminded by his gay uncle (who is fabulous) that HE HAD MONEY, and could afford to hire people to do this for him. He simply hadn't imagined out-sourcing it.


    This cultural mandate to preserve wealth at ALL COSTS is ubiquitous throughout the middle-east, and it isn't really hard to see why. These people have family lineages stretching back thousands of years into early agricultural pre-history... Given the enormous survival advantages to inheriting land, livestock, and eventually currency; it is only logical that one would place the Family before themselves. And so they do..


    This is why you hear about Honour-Killings, because to these families, dishonourable behaviour is considered tantamount to blasphemy. To place one's own individual self above one's family is mortifying to them, and back during the tribal days, could have doomed the entire clan. Old habits die hard.


    Simply put, these families have persisted long enough to enculture the "long-view" towards life. They know they are but a single link in a vast chain, and consider the chain more valuable than the link. And this world-view is effective, if not always gratifying...


    And then there's Western Civilization, whose Sin is Gluttony.


    I'm not even going to get into obesity (yet) because what interests me more is the staggering amount of conspicous consumption AKA frivolous spending. From cars to weekly fashions to jewelry to make-up to water-waste to everything in-between. Western civilization is predicated on instant-gratification, and ostentious displays of wealth. And, capitalism being what it is, enormous amounts of money are spent to reap even more enormous amounts of money from a culture consumed with vanity and
    "keeping up with the Jones..."


    Every part of this is sheer Gluttony. Utter and complete waste. A house full of worthless trinkets and an over-flowing garbage can. Many people think that it's *only* about food, and that is sheer folly. An living, breathing cult dedicated to continual self-stimulation; either via virtue-signaling, or social-media binging, TV marathons, and yes.. stuffing themselves like a goddamn pigs.


    I don't mean to be rude, but the sight of an absolute miracle of evolution, Nature's greatest superpredator, treating *itself* like livestock just pisses me off to no end.


    I used to live that way, while chasing the American Scream. It nearly killed me, and I had nothing to show for it but self-hatred. Which is the very essence of Despair. Then I ended up starving for 18 months, and starvation has many lessons to teach, if you can listen.



    And now that I've gotten all that said, the rant can begin...

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    The Swine Princess: Part Two - My Ex.

    The Swine Princess: Part Two - My Ex.


    Let the Rant begin.


    Okay, so I mentioned in my intro that I got taken to the cleaners by my oldest childhood friend, who has since become a con-artist. She and her daughter are running a tandem gold-digging racket, and she used the memory of our puppy-love to rope and enslave me.


    I used to call her a bitch, but that's really insulting to dogs, in my opinion. Dogs are basically good people, if you treat them right.. Even the mean ones can usually be brought around with a few butter-milk bisquits and the right body-language.


    These fucking pigs. Oh bloody gods do I despise them. When she first contacted me on FB, it was *just* to talk about old times (yeah, right). She led in easy, gradually poking and prodding compliments here and there, and after a few days it moved to sex. I was kinda stupid at this point... Since I'm just naturally pretty hard on my lovers, I simply tell women ahead of time. It's the only ethical thing to do, given my nature.


    And she jumped on it (pun not-intended, but there it is)...


    She starts talking all about the crazy shit she likes to get up to.. Soon I'm getting homemade porn and stories of the swingers clubs, blah blah blah. While anyone with a lick of Redpill sense would run screaming at this point, I was a full-blown SJW White-Knight, recently divorced and suffering from a severe sex-drought...
    aka The Perfect Target.


    I knew she was trouble on the first date... While she regaled me with stories of her unhappy marraige, that tiny devil on my shoulder said "Run", but that damned angel on my other shoulder said "Save her"... Sheesh.. Because in my heart, I was still seeing that little girl with grass-stains on her knees...


    It started so small.. just pizza-and-movie nights with her and her daughter, followed by hours of BDSM after we went to bed. She blew my fucking mind... took me far beyond my the limits of my most depraved (now, charmingly naive) fantasies. And she was all sweetness and charm the rest of the time.. A perfect little lady who was a complete whore in bed. The American Dream.


    Over time, she and her daughter were both hard-selling me on moving in with them, because rent was so much cheaper in that area, and with all of us working, we could pay off my steadily increasing credit card bills. I was resistant, because we had only been going out for a few months. Eventually, she calls me up wailing because she 'lost' her job, and oh boo-hoo she's going to be homeless, and might have to move far away and never see me again, and blah blah blah.


    Hook, Line and Sinker.


    She completely intended to divorce-rape me, I see that know. As soon as I landed, the only words that came out of her mouth for three weeks were, "Buy A House"... I finally blew up at her and asked the simple question: "What is so important to YOU about ME buying a house?" She dropped it after that, but now the spending started to accelerate.


    Keep in mind.. all this time, she was selling me the White-Picket fence, telling me how glad she was that we "found each other" at this time in life. How everything was so wrong before, but how with just a little more "investment" we could have such a happy life together.


    The particular method she used, which I sure is familiar to many folks here, is hinting. She would hint, mention, allude, reference, insinuate, imply.. On and on until is blindingly OBVIOUS what she wants. She never *explicitly* asked for it, though, which is crucial to the parasite mindset. And so, whenever you finally give in and grant said-wish; It was all completely *your* idea and she had NOTHING to do with it. Self-righteous plausible-deniability was built directly into her paradigm.


    And it truly is a full-blown delusional Paradigm... She had four levels of rationalization with which to deny her actions.


    So on and on it went, more money, more "investment" and "Victory!" was always right around the corner. And the corner after that.. and after that...


    Her daughter was the same exact way. She would video-date guys on the interet, and one time she snagged a pharmacy assistant who started sending thousands of $$$ of gifts and even cash to our door. And one night, when he was feeling depressed and wanted to talk to her; she closed the chat, tossed her phone on the table, rolled her eyes, and glibly huffed to the room, "Well I'm not getting paid to be his therapist!"


    Her mother was in complete agreement. How dare he expect such from her?! And oh yes, how happy she was, to have a Real Man, that wasn't all needy like "That fucker..."


    They were fucking swine. Not dogs, but swine. Because for them, acquisition was everything. As soon as they had something, it lost all value. Her daughter had a thing for exotic pets; chameleons, rats, bearded dragons, jungle-toads... And as soon as she had them.. they became furniture. Cats too.. and dogs. The place turned into a zoo, the floor covered in shit; and neither one of them would so much as lift a finger to clean this hovel that they were making of a rental house.


    I was working two jobs, coming home to utter filth, spend the night cleaning, then *try* to sleep, only to be kept up til 3-4 in the morning listening to inane circular chatter, before the hog-beast demanded rape-sex. Always rape-sex. Always, Always, ALWAYS!!! Anything can become boring after the 400th time in a row... Eventually it was just more labor.


    They ate constantly, but never anything cooked at home. Only fast-food, ever. My mother bought me $200 worth of groceries for Christmas, and most of it went to rot, because these fucking pigs couldn't be bothered to turn on a stove.


    For them, it was only Gluttony. More, more, more, more, MOAR! A neverending stream of consumption and hoarding. Everything had to be done *for* them. Everything. They wouldn't even put their dishes in the sink, much less put them in the washing-machine.




    That woman went fucking ballistic when her daughter had to get a job in order to keep the lights on, because "How could I be so SELFISH!!"


    She, in her utterly co-dependant relationship, had literally promised her daughter that she would never have to take job.. Her own daughter! An absolute exercise in Control.. For no other reason than the Terror of being alone?! #emptynest


    I have loved Womyn my entire life.. I cut my Feminist teeth on 1700 pages of Monica Sjoo. No feminist can match me...


    And she used every atom of it against me... She didn't even know the magnitude of the Mangina that she had snagged...


    To be honest, I somewhat find comfort in this... Because I so internalized the lessons of Selfish Feminism, that I came out the other side, and betrayed my parasites... As a proper Feminist would...


    Who can know... Regardless, due to bargains made, and ruthless Feminist Philosophy, I came through rather intact. I literally married my ex-wife from a point of male hypergamy. I knew she was a Winner, so I tagged along... She was so excruciatingly PISSED when that came out in an argument...


    They despise Men who act like them.


    I'm in a much better place now. I have 5 (distant) girlfriends. One Sexual, Two platonic, and One somewhat in-between. The last is an experiment in revenge and hypergamy.. She ruined my life, and so I will toy with her, and explore her as a Test-Subject... You don't have to like it.


    Anyways, boys.. Like it or not, this is here. Writing it out helps to overcome the Pain of a life wasted...


    I am so grateful, for my Second Wind...

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    Re: The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

    Thanks for sharing your story, it was in interesting read, especially the second part. It will help other men to avoid the mistakes you made and spare them just a bad experience. There are lot of lurkers who are reading the forum I hope some of them will take heed.
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    Re: The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
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    Okay, this is probably come off as a rant, but I've noticed a few things about Eastern/Western cultures.

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    Found this thread today when randomly exploring the forums, and being an Indian, I think I can expand a little on your view of Indians. I have several things to add, and I can mess up with the order, so you have to bear with me a bit.

    I think what you call "greed" for frugal things, is only superficially different from the "gluttony" you described as part of modern western civilization. Both of them are arising from the fake need created by the instinct to achieve more status. American Dream is a status, its not *needed* for survival or even healthy living, it BECOMES a need because the people who have that are shown to be of higher status from all the "inputs" (be it media, friends, colleagues, teachers at school, etc etc). You are most likely able to understand better than me how that works, I here explain why the phenomenon you see in east, is also the result of the same instinct : status.

    In India, there is a culture of joint family. Now you can see all the exaggerations of it in the media, like 50 people living in some very big palatial house of a millionaire family or whatever. But the ground reality is, it means the house is shared by :
    - an old couple
    - their eldest son
    - the wife and children of the eldest son
    - the unmarried siblings of the eldest son.

    Sometimes married brothers of eldest son also live if the house is big, its a financially well to do family, and there are little conflicts. The married sisters however, leave, because they have to leave, they are expected to live with their husbands.

    Now even if these connected families not living under same roof, they visit each other all the time. So when an Indian teen says "my uncle is coming to visit us", he/she actually means his/her uncle, uncle's wife and uncle's children. They get together all the time. Sounds wonderful at this point but then, there is some darker side to this.

    This creates a rat race for status. The parents always like to boast about their sons and daughters in front of the relatives. And if their children arent doing well in comparison, or some other parents end up being ahead in the boasting tournament, the children will be scolded, especially the boys (but girls too) on how they failed to make their momma happy, or they failed to make their dad proud. Some parents even belittle their children in front of all the relatives WHILE THE CHILDREN ARE PRESENT, like public shaming. For most children/teenagers, this is extremely humiliating.

    The same rat race happens with the friends, with classmates, with neighbors. India has a very large population, and a very high density of population, I mean even with all the immigrants US doesnt come even close. This means that you will be in a rat race of this social status with hundreds if not thousands of people. This causes a certain desperation, a FAKE NEED is created.

    Sometimes the need isnt really fake. When you sit for major exams, say engineering or medical exams or anything, you are competed against MILLIONS. You answer one question wrong, hundreds will get ahead of you in the rank. And in most cases the seats are often limited, be it the seats in engineering colleges, medical colleges, law colleges, whatever. And what do you think happens when you fail to get a seat for yourself ? You become a LITERAL LAUGHING STOCK of the whole extended family. Not only you, your parents too end up becoming laughing stock. And it becomes worse when some cousin of yours gets one. He/She and his/her parents will boast about it day and night, via all the mediums they can get their hands on... from actual family gatherings to whatsapp messages.

    Now for the next part in the chain. This desperation leads to everyone trying their best to win by hook or crook, mostly by crook. Its a simple phenomenon in nature that not everyone is born equal, some are better in maths, some are better at playing violin, some are better at lifting weights, some are better at just gossiping 24/7 non-stop (lol). So there will be people in the rat race who will be better than you in a fair match. How do you overcome this ? By faking it. You fake everything. People will make fake college degrees, start fake business, fake claims about their wealth and power etc. And almost everyone is doing it. Almost everyone, at everytime, is faking fifty things without even knowing it, this is has become so well embedded in the brains. But they KNOW that they are faking it, they know it very well. And that is EXACTLY how they see others, the people who are not in their known social circle : FAKES !

    This is why they dont want to spend money on anything which they think can be managed without doing it. Because most of the time they will end up spending money and sub par services is what they will get. Half finished, half hearted job. It happens all the time to everyone, you buy something, some product or some service and you expect atleast 50% of what is mentioned on the advertisement/wrapper/etc and you end up getting only 5%. Nobody here even expects 100%. And this is what you see when you see a millionaire not wanting to spend money so easily, he knows, instinctively and subconsciously that its gonna be fake and subpar, so why not he does it himself.

    The greed you see is a preservation strategy, because of rampant fake'ness of things, which in turn is the result of the need to get social status. Same logic like western civilization, applied to a different culture.

    And this played a major part in my own personal life, especially with women. Unlike most MGTOW, I have no scars whatsoever, because never had any relationship with women. This has nothing to do with intensity of my sexual desire or anything. It has everything to do with that fake status thing. I am very anti-faking mindset, I dont claim I know anything when I dont know it, but when I DO CLAIM that I know X, I tend to be way better than my faker peers. This is extremely intimidating and disorienting for them, to the point that they dont even know how to talk to me properly. They cant fake anything, I will see right through it and will ridicule it. They cannot find anything fake with me because I am not faking anything. So even if I am too green when talking to women in terms of seducing them, I have a MAJOR advantage in casual small talk, I have enough experience with talking to fakers, and they dont have experience with non-fakers.. and its awkward and humiliating for them !!!
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    Re: The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

    Intriguing read. I forget the name of who said this particular quote but I have the saying set in stone. "If it weren't for our sex drives, we would find women repulsive." Sometimes I curse my hormonal drive at times because women are flawed by default and toxic by design. When you put their aesthetic beauty aside (well at least those who do spend the time grooming themselves) you will notice several red flags about them within the first 5 seconds of coming into contact with them. Women know too well that a weak willed man will cave to them and use it to their advantage. Hypergamy reigns supreme in this culture and even though they have the one, two or maybe three men that will cave to them, they will always pine for the one who they just can't get in their grasp for women will be constantly unsatisfied solely because of her greed. Then there is the other half in which Glutton does come into play because women don't take good care of themselves at all. Several tattoos and piercings, the drinking, smoking and partying, constant eating with very little exercising, making ill advised financial decisions, they are literally children who need the logical input of a man to keep them in line but since so many men of this generation tend to defer to their woman, they aren't being put in line as their man just spoils them.

    We just need to get into our heads, (and I speak this in a man's perspective in general) that there's no benefit in helping those that can't help themselves.

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    Re: The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Found this thread today when randomly exploring the forums, and being an Indian, I think I can expand a little on your view of Indians. I have several things to add, and I can mess up with the order, so you have to bear with me a bit.
    Thank you so much for this insight! I can't imagine a culture where the assumption that a person is lying because their lips are moving is an appropriate life-strategy. No wonder they are so cheap, they haven't met a single person who wasn't reflexively scamming them. Therefore they must scam non-stop as well, as a survival strategy. Wow!

    I remember reading a guy speaking about how his college roommate (who was from some eastern nation) was on a full-ride scholarship for excellence in a rather prestigious school. The guy's freshman final paper was rejected due to rampant plagiarism. He had simply copypasta'd stuff from throughout the internet and turned it in. Turns out, that is the accepted standard for all research papers in his nation. He had literally 0% experience with actual research and writing, and had gotten into this Ivy-League school based on complete bullshit. The writer said he couldn't figure out who was more pissed to find this out, his roommate or himself.

    Culture-shock is an amazing thing, and again; thanks so much for this info. It's really cool to know.

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    Re: The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
    Thank you so much for this insight! I can't imagine a culture where the assumption that a person is lying because their lips are moving is an appropriate life-strategy. No wonder they are so cheap, they haven't met a single person who wasn't reflexively scamming them. Therefore they must scam non-stop as well, as a survival strategy. Wow!

    I remember reading a guy speaking about how his college roommate (who was from some eastern nation) was on a full-ride scholarship for excellence in a rather prestigious school. The guy's freshman final paper was rejected due to rampant plagiarism. He had simply copypasta'd stuff from throughout the internet and turned it in. Turns out, that is the accepted standard for all research papers in his nation. He had literally 0% experience with actual research and writing, and had gotten into this Ivy-League school based on complete bullshit. The writer said he couldn't figure out who was more pissed to find this out, his roommate or himself.

    Culture-shock is an amazing thing, and again; thanks so much for this info. It's really cool to know.
    Oh you should then hear about the accepted standard about writing descriptive textual answers in exams !

    What you need to do is to memorize the basic headings and keywords of the topic. If you cant memorize then you can ask the buddy sitting next to you if the exam invigilator doesnt care, or you can write them on your hand or you can write them on a paper and put it in toilet etc etc. Then, you need to carry two extra pens in addition to standard blue pen : one black and one green pen. Red pen is not allowed because its used by teachers for marking. Now what you do is, you "decorate" your answer sheet with headings and keywords with those colorful pens, write with green pen and underline with black or vice versa. And the bulk of the text you write with blue pen. What you write here doesnt matter, it should just cover one or two pages per answer. You can write some music lyrics, describe some episode of the TV show you watched yesterday, or pretty much anything.

    And this works because teachers get paid for marking, per sheet. So what most of them (like 99.99%) will do is, get several hundreds of answer sheets for marking each day and just look for keywords. Because those keywords are all colored and highlighted, you will get high to perfect score for each answer.

    And you will do this for a decade you spend in school, and then half a decade for higher studies. By the time you are writing research paper, your brain has no concept of any authenticity, it has been lobotomized by the culture. The guy you talk of, not only he doesnt know how to write a research paper, he has no idea what research is, he has no idea why someone would want to do that, he is just another zombie produced the system which can then be immigrated to US under this scam they call importing "skilled" workers from third world.

    And I tell you one moment which was one of the major red pill moments for me in my personal life. The school was about to end, and the final exams were near, I was around 17 years old then. It was a maths class, the teacher arrived, but the syllabus was already finished. So he announced that he is going to give us some "tips" for the exams. At that time I was little green, little blue-pilled you can say, about this system. He said that the questions have optional parts (like solve either A or B), and if you know both, you can write the solution for A, and then write the solution of B for some other question you dont know the solution for...

    I was super disgusted. The classmates were either ALREADY AWARE of this (I was not !) or were very happy to learn the trick. I was red pilled, then and there...
    A clever fighter not only wins, but excels in winning with ease. His victories bring him neither reputation for wisdom, nor credit for courage. He wins his battles by making no mistakes. Making no mistakes is what establishes the certainty of victory, for it means conquering an enemy that is already defeated.

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    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: The Swine Princess: Part One - Greed and Glutton

    Wow. I long suspected that schools were being dumbed down to a level wherein a person would be just educated enough to work and breed... but that is some... I don't even have words for that.


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