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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Well, I too don't wish to see a senior member leave over divisive politics. It's not the nature of the politics in this case that bothers me so much, it's the idea that we would become divided into subgroups and start warring among each-other like a bunch of tribal feminist cunts.

    I'd rather see Ace stay and stand by his personal convictions, but if leaving here is part of him going his own way then I would only wish him well and always look forward to the possibility of him returning.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    One bad apple spoils the bunch. Most of you here are good. But I was only one who spoke out against the sex dolls aside from a forum member named MGTOWforever basically. (That WAS a cringe worthy FAILURE of the rest of this forum!)

    You fasely make ALL OF US us look like a bunch of perpetually layess losers.
    I would agree that there are some trolls who talk about sex-dolls in order to make MGTOW look like a bunch of losers; but I cannot say that for each and every post, and each an every poster.

    Who knows why some are interested in sex-dolls; I have never understood the fascination. I enjoy going out, meeting women, flirting and if sex is part of the experience then that is great, if not then that is not an issue either.

    But, with all due respect to you sir, I think you may be taking for granted that because you can go out and have sex with women, it means other men can, or are willing to do so.

    It is simply a crystal clear fact of life that in the modern, highly mechanised, highly technicised world we live in, that women are only interested in the top 5% of men; the creme de la creme, the cream of the crop if you will.

    It matters not how much you try to seduce, flirt, or any amount of self-improvement you do. Women are simply not interested, and they never will be.

    Now if you are not in that range, then you may get lucky (which has happened to me once or twice). But even then, you have to put up with so much bullshit; and it ends up costing you a fortune. And with a shitty economy, sex dolls are much more economical than going out in the hope that you may end up with a half - decent women in the bedroom.

    My experience has been that overall, women (in the modern world of Instagram & FB) are highly manipulative, expedient, immoral, flaky, boring, passionless, and sterile. They categorise men into beta and alpha. ''This guy I will fuck when I get the itch, this guy I will use for dinners and drinks.'' And they have no shame in manipulating men in this way and when confronted about it, they come up with all manner of rationalisations to cover up their malignant and manipulative behaviours.

    It isn't that women offer nothing, it is that they offer a net harm when you interact with them.

    I would gather that interest in sex dolls is actually far far more than just men who cannot get laid; which is actually what really alarms me about the modern mechanised world. I would suspect that there will be much more interest in sex dolls as we progress towards a more mechanised, technicised world.

    Sex-dolls will become more advanced and will offer things that a modern women either withholds or is unwilling to offer:

    -Intimacy
    -Conversation
    -Sex, on demand (free from manipulation)
    -Safety (you cannot be falsely accused by a sex doll)
    -Drama free relationship (always in the mood for sex, no mental health issues or whinging about this or that)

    With all these 'benefits'; I still don't understand the fascination, and I definitely won't be buying or have any remote interest in sex dolls.

    I suspect that many men who take an interest in sex dolls have tried to date women in real life; but they have been thrown to the lions on too many occasions and have simply given up. You simply cannot expect a man who is constantly rejected to keep trying, or keep improving, eventually the money runs out and the eventually the frustration makes you want to walk away. Different men have different levels of tolerance, and some find interacting with women a deeply degrading experience (which was often the case for me).

    So this leads men to think along the 'Self - Sufficiency' route and explore buying a sex - doll. But we know from experience that 'Self - Sufficiency' is a myth. We evolved from lower primates who are highly highly social creatures and function best in a groups. Men and women crave to be touched, held, kissed and hugged. There is no way around it; it is simply the way we have evolved and it will not change.

    So this pursuit of 'Self-Sufficiency' will lead to men completely ignoring women. And women are absolutely panic-stricken by this, which is why you see in the media and magazines the return of 'traditional women'.

    It is too late, far far too late. There is probably no point in even discussing sex-dolls. They have been made, and the industry is massively growing and will continue to do as we move into the fourth industrial revolution.

    Think of sex-dolls as a reformation in human relationships. There was a reformation of the church in Europe in the 1500s. And for better or worse, it came and already passed, and there is nothing you or I can do about it.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    My experience has been that overall, women (in the modern world of Instagram & FB) are highly manipulative, expedient, immoral, flaky, boring, passionless, and sterile. They categorise men into beta and alpha. ''This guy I will fuck when I get the itch, this guy I will use for dinners and drinks.'' And they have no shame in manipulating men in this way and when confronted about it, they come up with all manner of rationalisations to cover up their malignant and manipulative behaviours.
    100% agree, women think that just by being there and the possibility that they may offer their bodies to you that they have done everything they need to do.

    Obviously a lot of people see these sexbots as something that the man just pumps away at like a horny dog. Many will, no doubt. But as I have mentioned in other places, the possibilities for these dolls to be more real than real, to be better companions or even simply more interesting devices to interact with makes them very tempting.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    But as I have mentioned in other places, the possibilities for these dolls to be more real than real, to be better companions or even simply more interesting devices to interact with makes them very tempting.
    Yes, indeed sir, you have hit the nail on the head.

    I think this is exactly what is missing from the discourse we here are having.

    Sex-dolls offer much much more than just sex. If the men buying sex dolls were solely interested in sex, they can easily visit a brothel, or buy a simpler device that is on the market, or they could relieve themselves through pornography.

    But the relentless, pursuit of a real - life resemblance to a woman is a clear indication that men don't objectify women. On that contrary, men actually want a sex doll to resemble a real women as much as possible.

    Women on the other hand objectify human males by reducing a man his penis size or the size of his wallet. It is a very very common thing amongst women to gossip amongst themselves about these things. At the same time, they own dildos which resemble a man's sexual organs, and they have no qualms about pleasuring themselves with it.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I wondered what the attraction was at first. But after reading you younger guys stuff, it looks like your thinking ahead to where they'll do more than be an inanimate doll.
    Yeah, I've learned to keep in mind that any one person who weighs in on this topic may have in mind a different version of doll, of any of various levels of sophistication, including ones that haven't been invented yet, and exists only in his imagination as he types his post, and he may be responding to a guy who himself had a different version in his head than the guys who are responding to his post, but each guy doesn't necessarily make that clear in his post as to what degree he is thinking, and if a given reader of the posts also makes no adjustment for any lack of clarification or for the wide allowance required, we can have misunderstanding where no misunderstanding need be.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    I don't even have a fleshlight or other toys let alone a doll or sexbot.
    Cleaning them out is a hassle. I tried 'em, but its like "Ok, now that you have cum you have to do this other thing". As bad as having a woman! My trusty spoof rag is the only sex aid I ever needed. When it gets crusty, put it in a bucket of water for an hour or two and tip the goop down the shower drain. Job fucking done.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    If folks think threads like this are contentious, just wait. Personally, I think the uproar about sex dolls will pale in comparison to the outrage over artificial wombs. At that point, the very last card whimyn have to play will be taken off the table. God forbid they have to fall back on personality and charm.

    However, I don't think artificial reproduction will be a panacea for men. I believe that artificial sperm have already been produced. So, if reproduction is removed from the equation, the sex drive can be handled through artificial means, I am not sure where this will leave humanity. There have been several science-fiction dystopias to feature controlled reproduction.

    I just hope I don't live long enough to see it. But, I probably will.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Boar View Post
    If folks think threads like this are contentious, just wait. Personally, I think the uproar about sex dolls will pale in comparison to the outrage over artificial wombs. At that point, the very last card whimyn have to play will be taken off the table. God forbid they have to fall back on personality and charm.

    However, I don't think artificial reproduction will be a panacea for men. I believe that artificial sperm have already been produced. So, if reproduction is removed from the equation, the sex drive can be handled through artificial means, I am not sure where this will leave humanity. There have been several science-fiction dystopias to feature controlled reproduction.

    I just hope I don't live long enough to see it. But, I probably will.
    I'm in my mid 40's I suspect I will probably be in a nursing home or close to dying when human's have been made ready for replacement. It is one of many reasons why I am happy I never had children.

    One of the things that being on the Sugar Baby site really drove home to me was that women have no clue how to communicate with men let alone charm them. All they can do is show their bodies and hope for the best.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    The problem with sex dolls that it is promised that they can replicate the most beautiful women that ever walked this planet . Because nobody dreams about plain Jane .

    And even mimic women below age of consent . Those of course will be best sellers .

    It of course will bore you a week in like porn does . But its even better for business .

    Someone will make a nice fortune out of it .

    But you have to understand boys will be boys and they will be embarrassed about it same as they are embarrassed to admit that they wank . In real life that is . They will fight you if you said that they wank .

    While even lame women go shopping for dildos with their besties .

    Thats why men are doomed to lose every fucking time .
    This is 100% accurate.

    Sometimes common sense triumphs.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    My opinion of sex dolls and artificial wombs are wishful thinking but it is not going to stop men from dreaming the outrageous as I have learned in my short life time on this rough patch we call earh. Human beings try to impose a fantasy into reality which never comes to fruition happens all the time.

    A good example of this is global warming hoax.

    The fantasy is that the world would be taxed with a carbon tax and thus it would be a wealth transder from people to .gov. Reality is that people are still building on coastlines and banks are handing out 30 year loans knowing full well the reality on the ground. By law the scientists that work for the .gov must report the truth so banks can make decisions along with insurance industries.

    Artificial wombs, man islands, sex dolls, etc are simply outlets for men that seem that they are trapped in this reality but chasing a fantasy.

    This is no different than porn but I think the difference is that it is beyond sex for men to chase these other endeavors as others have said. In the end I believe that men should not chase fantasy too much and stay more grounded. Maybe that is the stoic side of me coming out but that is what I was raised with as values by my father.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    I'm glad I made the thread. The only thing I regret is announcing that I had to quit the forum because of it.

    I really appreciate the encouragement to stay and this makes it easy to betray my announcement and look like a mine seizure. Then again, as the book, "When I Say No I Feel Guilty" said, we all have a right to change our minds.

    To those of you who I criticized for using that as a substitute, I got to admit, it's better than being some faithful simp paying for someone ungrateful bitch's bills

    But I let out all the rage about it l. and I'd like to say that it wasn't rage and that it was a righteous post and all that. Society teaches us that angry is bad. Hence men being dumb enough to fall for the code red anti-male shaming tactics out there.

    I'm going to agree to disagree on the sex dolls thing. That being said, it NOT my fucking forum only! It's all of ours and if they want to take it in that direction, on second thought, it's no skin off my back really. Or at least it's not worth quitting the damn forum over, haha.

    Had spare ribs for breakfast and chili cheese dogs for dinner that I cooked all of myself. I can feed myself like a king despite acting like a queen a little on my post. So I'm going to go ahead and leave it as is because it does represent some feelings that I had. But it's just something I'm going to have to accept here I guess if it's going to continue to be talked about.

    I wouldn't want you telling me what I should or should not post. So I'll try not to do that to you all again.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    I'm glad I made the thread. The only thing I regret is announcing that I had to quit the forum because of it.

    I really appreciate the encouragement to stay and this makes it easy to betray my announcement and look like a mine seizure. Then again, as the book, "When I Say No I Feel Guilty" said, we all have a right to change our minds.

    Not to those of you who I criticized for using that as a substitute, I got to admit, it's better than being some faithful simp paying for someone grateful bitches bills

    But I'll let out all the rage about it and I'd like to say that it wasn't rage and that it was a righteous post and all that. Society teaches us that angry is bad. Pence man being dumb enough to fall for the code red anti-male shaming tactics out there.

    I'm going to agree to disagree on the sex dolls thing. That being said, it NOT my fucking Forum only! It's all of ours and if they want to take it in that direction, on second thought oh, it's no skin off my back really. Or at least it's not worth quitting the damn forum over, haha.

    Had spare ribs for breakfast and chili cheese dogs for dinner that I cooked all of myself. I can feed myself like a king despite acting like a queen a little on my post. So I'm going to go ahead and leave it as is because it does represent some feelings that I had. But it's just something I'm going to have to accept here I guess if it's going to continue to be talked about.

    I wouldn't want you telling me what I should or should not post. So I'll try not to do that to you all again. But I'm only human, haha.
    I am really glad you stayed!

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    At this time, I've moved this thread from the Lounge to the Rant sub-forum.

    Thank you.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    This is no different than porn but I think the difference is that it is beyond sex for men to chase these other endeavors as others have said. In the end I believe that men should not chase fantasy too much and stay more grounded. Maybe that is the stoic side of me coming out but that is what I was raised with as values by my father.
    Regardless of what it is some people will take it too far. Have you ever heard sports fans talk to each other for example? They speak as if they are part of the team in some way.

    Some men will see these things as being real, others will treat it like a toy and of course many will just not have anything to do with them at all. I am curious about future possibilities for them but at the same time, being the tight wad I am, I don't think I would part with the money.

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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    At this time, I've moved this thread from the Lounge to the Rant sub-forum.

    Thank you.
    Thank you for moving it to the appropriate subform to. Thanks to all for your encouragement. I was drinking tequila this morning and this makes it's so fucking easy just to come back in and change my mind on the same day as opposed to the next year or whatever.

    I neglect the rants area too much lately, Unboxxed. There's some classic stuff in it. I took one of Frog's rant to a purple pill home of mine, and it pissed the blue pills off! I put it there more for the reptile guys than I did at all to piss off anyone. But that was a great side benefit of that rant. And it was the truth the absolute pure beautiful truth man. Sometimes reality is subjective. But sometimes, let's not kid ourselves.

    This red pill and MGTOW uff is the only thing that hones in on what went wrong with the false Disney dream there. Not to mention, how not to make blue pill mistakes again so that you can not only meet women but maintain as good relationship as you can until the inevitable end.

    I'm in a good Internet space with a lot of good guys here. I include the mechanical being sex substitute ones when I say this too, haha. (I'm laughing at myself, not you guys)

    But I'm not laughing at you there. I'm just saying that this is a space that can make your mind grow they can also make you feel good enough for laughing often times enough.

    And to think that people say that red pill or MGTOW spaces are negative. Nah, those are proverbial hospitals for male casualties of the gynocracy. And no, it's not just a whine fest put tears in our beers.

    Instead we come up with solutions for how we're going to give ourselves permission to not repeat mistakes we made in our former dating life or how we're ghost if we're doing that.

    Pardon me for speaking like I'm the fucking Mayor of MGTOW at the end of this post here. I'm just another patient at the hospital, not a doctor. But I think I speak for all of us decently enough there, so I'll just leave it as is.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Ace Francis View Post
    Thank you for moving it to the appropriate subform to.
    Oh, I knew you'd understand, Ace. After everything said, it just now occurred to me that this kinda turned out to be a rant and not a goodbye, as I'm glad your staying.

    This allows me to tell everyone reading this that the Rant sub-forum is not a Penalty Box. It is a legitimate and respectable sub-forum that I think is a bit underutilized when many rants appear in the Lounge. Admittedly, it could be a fuzzy line to draw sometimes when a thread creator has to choose. Lounge? Or Rant?

    I've seen Lounge threads that I thought should be in the Rant column. But, I'm a new Mod and you happened to be the first one I could move there. Please don't feel picked on, buddy!
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    I think everything I've posted here is a rant, actually.
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed
    But, I'm a new Mod and you happened to be the first one I could move there. Please don't feel picked on, buddy
    Muh placement of thread has been disrespected. I quit again!

    I'm completely just kidding there and I absolutely agree with where you placed the thread. Not only does it put it in the more appropriate area of the forum, it also makes me revisit an area that I've been neglecting too much, the rants.
    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    I think everything I've posted here is a rant, actually.
    Ha ha, but they're GOLD every time and I'm glad that they're in the main section, The Lounge.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    THE REASON SEX DOLLS ARE GOOD:
    They have the women folk up in arms! Giving them the right to vote, or hell, rights? What a hoot! Next thing you know, the washing machine will be able to refuse to do it's job! An electric dildo would have rights too!
    The better they get, the more women will complain, the more they complain, the less value THEY will have to men. The dolls will get better, the harpies will not. #Hit the wall, loose to a doll!!
    Men are hardwired to have sex, no way around that, that is their ace in the hole. (Pun intended) What is wrong with re-inventing the wheel?
    Prostitutes are the most realistic option, really. Do your thing, pay her to leave, life is good. Cheaper than a doll, on par for what it would cost to get it wet dating, and of course a lot less hassle.
    TIME is the answer. Once you start getting old, the drive diminishes, blood pressure pills take "Mr. Happy" out of the equasion, and one goes on "Holiday". So the doll thing is only for a while, if you go that route.
    But one has to realize, that women do have a purpose. And that is for entertainment. Since they are mostly after money,treat them as such, prostitutes. Just be very careful with this bunch, as they are trying to snare you.
    MGTOW is going YOUR OWN way. Like living life on the edge? More power to ya. Like playing it safe? Don't blame you a bit. It doesn't matter how a guy takes care of his wants, or needs. As long as it is how he likes it and pleasurable to him. As long as it doesn't ensnare him in a life of misery, whom among us is to judge? We stand together, to be able to stand apart.
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    Re: Sex dolls is WHERE MGTOW JUMPS THE SHARK

    Hey Ace,

    Did you notice you received additional support?

    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...16/#post133616
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