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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Every few months, someone will bring up issues of war or the military.

    These threads are very hard for me to read, because most of them seem as if they were written by Mongolian yogurt barons trying to outline the cultural significance of 1980s rap music, watching a high school on a Navajo reservation put on a production of "Fiddler on the Roof," listening 11 year old virgins trying to describe the last orgy they were at, or fish trying to describe what birds are like.

    Do we have a mechanism to take a poll? If we do, I'd like to find out how many of us have served. If not, we can just chime in on this thread.

    Now, for the purpose of this, let's be precise on the meaning of veteran. If you are currently enlisted or commissioned, or honorably* served a tour of duty, peace time or wartime, in an army, navy, air force, naval infantry, coast guard, or paramilitary gendarme subject to military discipline or court martial for infractions, we'll count that. Civil Air Patrol...not so much.

    If you served at least six months, but then were medically retired or discharged, we'll count that. If you were dropped from boot camp in less than a month....CSB (cool story, bro.)

    If you were some kind of high school or college cadet, but did not join upon graduation, no.

    You had to have been a deployable asset.

    *In the US, we have five flavors of discharges. Seems some special snowflake with congressional connections got a Dishonorable Discharge. He argued it that "it was just a *little* felony," and that he should have gotten something in between, so in addition to the Honorable and Dishonorable Discharges, congress created the General Discharge, the Other Than Honorable Discharge, and the Bad Conduct Discharge.
    Its hard for you because you are one of the most intelligent creature in the world .

    I jokingly said that i went to a Vet school but i also said Russian army is a piece of garbage which it is.

    Though i live in one of the smallest , one of the poorest , one of the most corrupt and what used to be one of the most violent countries in the world . ( not anymore though , its safe as a hippies kiss now ) .

    I avoided army at all costs , would run form Military Police and not sleep home . Fuck em . Bunch of faggots .

    But im fascinated by your posts .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

    Alik: I always thought that the average Soviet soldier was too good for the Soviet Army.

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

    Singapore Medical Corps; To seek, to save, to serve. Two years under the Red Cross. Fought, failed, and both earned and lost respect from buddies and superiors. But did my time and time was good. Left the corps, but the corps hasn't left me; literally, I have reservist I need to do but that's life.

    Jack Reacher says that the Military Police is the most important branch of the Army. I say medical corps; you can lead, feed, or clear the way. But you can't do that when a virus knocks you off your feet. Or a stray bullet XD

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

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    Singapore Medical Corps; To seek, to save, to serve. Two years under the Red Cross. Fought, failed, and both earned and lost respect from buddies and superiors. But did my time and time was good. Left the corps, but the corps hasn't left me; literally, I have reservist I need to do but that's life.

    Jack Reacher says that the Military Police is the most important branch of the Army. I say medical corps; you can lead, feed, or clear the way. But you can't do that when a virus knocks you off your feet. Or a stray bullet XD
    I got to know some Singapore Air Force guys back in the 1990s. Good bunch.

    Were you issued a SAR-21? I would love the chance to shoot and take apart one of those new bullpup rifles.

    Were you deployed? What was that like? I hear you guys have to learn land navigation in Brunei. Your whole country fits one topographic map sheet!

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

    Unfortunately, my posting was in the brigade department, which is wholly administrative. So I did not get the chance to deploy on training exercises. However, my duties did include accompanying the guards units on their training missions, so I would be there when the unit assembles, heads out, trains and returns. Truth be told, it's pretty administrative and logistical, and can be boring.

    I was issued a SAR during basic. Very simple and light weapon, few moving parts. A good infantry weapon.

    Navigation is done almost everywhere, locally and overseas. Brunei is one of those places, Australia is another. And I accompanied a training exercise between the Guards unit and the American Marines once. Pretty cool moment.

    And honestly, I think my country only needs a quarter of the map sheet XD

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    When you say that, I have visions of somebody turning wrenches on an air base in Thailand. Good times!

    But please provide details. What was your occupational specialty? Where did you get stationed? What was it like? Where you different going in than when you came out?

    Sometimes I think that my first deployment to Central America was what I had instead of a happy childhood.
    Actually I did spend a year in Thailand! Udorn AFB, up country. It was a great year! $2 would get you laid, short time. $5 for the whole night with the girl.
    I was 54350 Power Production, though I somehow ended up working on aircraft arresting systems while there.
    Yeah, it was a great year. ............

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    Quote Originally Posted by chbedok View Post
    And honestly, I think my country only needs a quarter of the map sheet XD
    I was there in '89 and I bought a map sheet in a book store and used it to walk around, take the trains, etc. The whole island was 30 klicks by about 20 klicks, a nice diamond shape. Good for walking around with, because it was the familiar 1:50,000 scale, so those little grid squares were less than an inch on each side, but it represented a five soccer pitch walk.

    I was so impressed with the place, I thought I got a glimpse of the future. Then, I thought about all the freedoms I would not have if I lived there, and I got a little depressed.

    The women of Singapore are gorgeous, however.

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

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    Actually I did spend a year in Thailand! Udorn AFB, up country. It was a great year! $2 would get you laid, short time. $5 for the whole night with the girl.
    I was 54350 Power Production, though I somehow ended up working on aircraft arresting systems while there.
    Yeah, it was a great year. ............
    Just so I would know what today's equivalent of $2 and $5 was, could you tell me what year you were there.

    I was reading about how the the 1944 GI Bill of Rights had a provision to pay every returning veteran $20 a week, for 52 weeks a year starting after they were discharged and until they got themselves a civilian job. I am not sure if the so-called "52-20" provision went for more than one year. When I looked up the figure in the inflation calculator, I noticed that it works out to about $269 in today's dollars in 1944, but starts drooping down with inflation every year in the next three following years.

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    Re: How many of us are military veterans?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Just so I would know what today's equivalent of $2 and $5 was, could you tell me what year you were there.

    I was reading about how the the 1944 GI Bill of Rights had a provision to pay every returning veteran $20 a week, for 52 weeks a year starting after they were discharged and until they got themselves a civilian job. I am not sure if the so-called "52-20" provision went for more than one year. When I looked up the figure in the inflation calculator, I noticed that it works out to about $269 in today's dollars in 1944, but starts drooping down with inflation every year in the next three following years.
    I was in Thailand '67-'68. And as you mentioned it, I was also in Thule Greenland for 2 years. But as a civilian working for Federal Electric, and then ITT when they took over the contract. I worked in a diesel power plant on a site atop a mountain outside the base. Terrible place to be, though the money was really good at the time. But still being young and dumb, I pissed most of what I had saved away on party times. We live and learn, most often too late.

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    About $13-14 and $33-34. Hmmm...even between '67 and '68 there was a drop off with inflation. The hyperinflation of post 1973 now seems even more outrageous.


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