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    Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    What's up with bashing gamers recently? I'm fucking sick of people ranking on this specific form of entertainment. Nobody claims you're a loser when you're into sitting around watching tv or movies..

    You get home from a long day at work, grab a beer and turn on the tube to wind down, right? Well, when i get home from standing all day at a 700 ton machine, i like to smoke weed and play a game or two before bed. Is it really so different?
    Well, a little..

    I'm still using my mind to solve puzzles in a game, or just work on coordination for fun. You're sitting there in front of the tv drooling on yourself. Hey, lots of people do it, but gamers are the ones that are insulted for indulging in a fantasy world. Is it because we are enjoying ourselves more and you're just jelly? Need to go to jelly school?

    If anyone puts down a gamer, then they must think pretty low of the 300 million brainwashed, zombies drooling over the television, right? Howabout those that sit around and surf the net? {or are gamers supposed to just join the majority of idiots on the planet and never look up from our fucking cell phones?} Yeah, we cant rank on the majority though, can we?

    Realize that:

    1. Gamers still go outside.
    2. Some gamers have jobs, cars, and apartments.. like me, my brother, and my best friend who is married and owns a house.
    3. If you've ever spent any time watching any sport.. YOU'RE a GAMER.
    4. If you place bets.. gamer.
    5. Almost everything in life is a fucking game. Look at how women treat relationshits.

    I participate in a wonderful game called 'geocaching' where i go out to amazing places in the world and do a 'treasure hunt' for a plastic container and a sign in sheet. Geocaching is all over the world and has millions of players, and i do it often. How the fuck could i be missing out on life going to places most people have never seen? Real places? Sure, when it's cold or cloudy, i stay home and play xbox, but what would you be doing? Should you be judged for that choice? I think not.

    So fuck off with all this gamer-bashing bullshit. There's plenty of kids living in their mom's basement posting ridiculous 'open letters' {Yeah, i'm talking to you, Corey Savage} as well as gamers. Are the majority of gamers leeching off their parents? Who the fuck knows or cares really?
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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    Geocaching, Chukhed? Look up "Geodesy 101: Godzilla's Lunchbox."

    I don't see a practical difference between sitting in front of a screen twiddling an XBox controller, or sitting there with a remote-control and a cable box. And only a minimal difference between those and what I'm doing now, tapping at a keyboard and browsing the Internet.

    Matter of fact, you "real gamers" could find me snub-worthy because I'm content with Windows Mah-jongg.
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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by BeijaFlor View Post

    I don't see a practical difference between sitting in front of a screen twiddling an XBox controller, or sitting there with a remote-control and a cable box. And only a minimal difference between those and what I'm doing now, tapping at a keyboard and browsing the Internet.
    This was my point, we all have some form of entertainment, what's the real difference, and why bash some over others? Would they scold or insult Netflix users? It's just feeble.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Chukhed View Post
    This was my point, we all have some form of entertainment, what's the real difference, and why bash some over others? Would they scold or insult Netflix users? It's just feeble.

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    Agree 100% Chukhed.

    Some nights after I've put my nephew to bed I enjoy a glass of fine Kentucky bourbon and playing a game of chess, sudoku, solitaire, or blackjack. I also have played video games for thirty years, dating back to the Atari 2600 and Intellivision through the PS4. I even play WITH my nephew and his friends and it is a bonding experience.

    I'm certain in my life I've spent thousands of dollars on games over three decades. Oh my god, I guess I'm a loser beta MGTOW incel fat neckbeard virgin basement-dwelling faggot because I'm a casual gamer for recreation instead of chasing pussy! I'm starting to think this younger generation is incapable of nuance and can only comprehend concepts in absolutes. A piss poor modern educational system and the need to prop themselves up and justify their lifestyle are to blame.

    I suppose I should be injecting steroids into my ass and lifting at the gym more and trying to pick up brain-damaged bitches with my time instead if you follow their "self-improvement neomasculinity" advice.

    Dopey Corey Savage, Fat Matt Forney and their ilk at Return of Hipster Clown Monkeys can go fuck themselves.
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    What's up with bashing gamers recently?
    Recently? Try going on years now...

    And it's fairly simple. Gaming is inexpensive in terms of entertainment value cost. Sure, there's a console, or a computer, and the cost of games, but take a game like Final Fantasy 7, Skyrim, XCOM, etc... one easily spend 60 to 100 hours on playthru of Final Fantasy 7 (a much older game), and it has enough reopay value to keep someone coming back for a second, or third playthru to discover secrets, beat certain enemies, etc.

    XCOM - multiple play thrus as well, and different conditions to keep one coming back.

    Skyrim - hundreds of hours easy for one play thru, and if you play a different style of character, there's another block of time.

    The cost per hour on play-thru is cheap and it gives gamers the different challenges in games they want and or love.

    And criticized recently?

    Gamers were being criticized in the 80's, in the nineties, and increasingly more over time through today. Not everyone was even alive when gaming also included the tabletop scares involving role-playing games because oooo magic and oooo devil worship obviously.

    All that time. These hobbies/activities...what do they do?

    They mean a male is not working and toiling at some job. They mean that a man is not putting in effort to be with a woman. A man is not focusing his time on a woman. A man is not spending his time earning money or spending money or making himself a utility - for a woman. Male activities and hobbies and male spaces, in general, get criticized, because they serve no useful purpose - to women.

    Sports has been feminized, for those interested in sports, and fantasy leagues are heavily criticized too - but sports is the allowed male activity to be interested in and most of them include commercials for domestic violence, programs for breast cancer awareness, and other 'female oriented' programs that consistently remind men and boys how horrible they are for just for being born male.

    Be it basketball, football, or sports entertainment wrestling - most of these allowed sports outlets have their designated 'pink month' for breast cancer. The Superbowl has commercials reminding men about domestic violence, never minding that 40 percent of all victims are male.

    It's about tearing men down and it's about making sure men's activities are criticized. Yes, there are some gamer girls' but the vast majority of gamers are male, no matter how broadly they stretch the term to include girls and women who play cutesy little apps on their smartphones.

    They criticize gamers and gaming companies, (and comic companies) and entertainment mediums so they can exert some control over the entertainment that men see produced.

    All of it comes back to a complete disgust for men who are not spending their time doing something which includes women, benefits women, or ensures that his time will be devoted towards women in some way. If men are not making themselves utilities for women, there must be something wrong.

    Women had a good few decades, but the plantation is running out of willing men who'll sacrifice themselves to the gynocentric system which will use him, and allow her to discard him and keep the value of his labor for years afterward. If men won't willing give themselves to this system, the system begins to fail - and it is failing - and women have noticed - and any man not spending his time toiling and breaking his back for a woman is a problem because women today - their mothers, their grandmothers got to rape their men for support, and alimony, and then those same women got to call themselves independent, and strong, and how dare men today not do the same thing their fathers and grandfathers did.

    And why do they say men are the hateful ones? Because men not slaving away for a woman are keeping something to themselves that other men gave away. How dare all those men keep for themselves what they should willingly give away - to women.

    It was good for women to walk away from the old gender roles, but they needed men still adhering to those old gender roles. The old social contract got broken, by women, but men adhered to it for a long time, and then, stopped. It felt like it was all of the sudden, but the slow stream of men who were not marrying or would not remarry took time to turn into a river and then a flood.

    You may hear of women going their own way. It is bullshit. They already went their own way a few decades ago. Men kept the promise because - maybe they/we thought it was a phase. But we have accepted the truth, and now there is no going back. Men are going their own way and women hate it. Men are being strong, independent, and women hate it. They see men walking away form the old social contract now a betrayal, because men were supposed to be convenient slaves and utilities forever.

    Men keeping the value of their labor, and enjoying their time - well, that takes away from women and it's mean, and hateful, and selfish for men. Sure, women did it but its ok for them. What's good for them to do and trying to keep men subservient is fine, but for men to enjoy their lives. It's obviously misogyny. All those strong independent women do not want to lean in. They want a man to lean in for them so they can divorce him, take his kids, take his money, enjoy an easier life funded by one man as they spend time with another man or several other men.

    Criticism of gaming is criticism of an activity boys and men enjoy, and that criticism will not stop. Women do their utmost to try to control the attitudes toward gaming in an effort to shame the players, and they go after the companies so that they can attempt to destroy the content being produced because if they can destroy the content, they can destroy a segment of time boys and men focus on and by shifting that focus, they think they will push men back into being willing slaves to a system dependent on men providing their labor to women via state backed legal extraction.

    If men won't make themselves vulnerable to the state in that manner (via marriage), women begin to lose ground since male roles have been completely devalued by the state and by women in general - a general societal lack of respect for gender roles men fill, yet we're still supposed to revere mothers.

    So there's your answer.

    Men not married can't be divorced. Those men also spend differently than married men. The state needs women in charge of household monies sot he economy keeps on trucking for the elite. Women being strong empowered and independent is awesome! Men being strong and independent is evil and hurts women.

    Another case of women good and men bad.

    And they think criticizing video games will solve their problems.

    That's kinda funny.
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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    Just bought "Lord of Xulima" for 10 bucks on Steam. Already played like 55 hours. Great game if you like oldschool RPGs. I'd describe it as a mix of Pokémon (gameboy) and Might and Magic. Apparently this was funded by a kickstarter as it is an indie production. Interesting, I wonder whether that type of game will become more common in the future if financing over the internet becomes more and more easy. It certainly surprised me that Ubisoft even bothered to put out another Might and Magic Title (MM X) to be honest. And it was surprisingly good and oldschool, too.
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    I know why gamers get bashed - video games involve achievements, accomplishments, increasing difficulty, skills advancement, item unlocks, gold, etc within the virtual world. So people assume these are "fake" accomplishments that MUST BE replacing real life accomplishments. How could I possibly be achieving things in real life and STILL WANT those "fake" accomplishments?

    It's also funny to me that "binge-watching" is now glorified and treated as completely normal, but men who do a couple hours of gaming a day get bashed as if they're hiding from reality.

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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Apparently this was funded by a kickstarter as it is an indie production. Interesting, I wonder whether that type of game will become more common in the future if financing over the internet becomes more and more easy.
    Just check War of Rights, bloody hell. It looks like it is going to be one of the sweetest games I will play in my life, and it didn't even need 100.000$ on the initial kickstarter. I love the fact that independent studios with passion and ideas can claw their way into relevance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets
    It's also funny to me that "binge-watching" is now glorified and treated as completely normal, but men who do a couple hours of gaming a day get bashed as if they're hiding from reality.
    Since I live in the middle of Nowhere, Nevada, I don't have access to Netflix, so I don't fully understand how it works, but it has always struck me as odd that the same people that pile on videogames then go on to praise the seven shows they are following right now...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nuggets View Post
    I know why gamers get bashed - video games involve achievements, accomplishments, increasing difficulty, skills advancement, item unlocks, gold, etc within the virtual world. So people assume these are "fake" accomplishments that MUST BE replacing real life accomplishments. How could I possibly be achieving things in real life and STILL WANT those "fake" accomplishments?

    It's also funny to me that "binge-watching" is now glorified and treated as completely normal, but men who do a couple hours of gaming a day get bashed as if they're hiding from reality.
    Actually, those achievements and fake accomplishments are just a facet of the critical explanations used to define why boys and men play video games. THE specific reason why - not so much.

    The bottom line is, a husband is going to work harder and do more, for his wife, for the family. How many single men have to put up with a honey do list on the weekend? Those errands and requests/demands for him to 'do even more' are simply more ways to keep his time productively occupied for her benefit.

    A married woman is celebrated for having interests and hobbies - and not losing herself/her identity.

    A married man? He's selfish and no good for taking time for himself and not burying himself in the totality of being a husband/father/family man.

    So no, false achievements in the game are not THE reason.

    Marriage is a lose/lose situation for men. Everyone should know it but the programming and indoctrination is still working, but not as well as t used to.

    Take that married man - who maintains his interests and hobbies. A woman's excuse for divorcing him is - he doesn't respect her and he distances himself from her and the family. He's selfish. She may not be bored, but she is 'unhapppppy' she can't control him.

    Now think about the married man who does not maintain friendships and hobbies. A woman's excuse for divorcing him is that he works too much and isn't there. Or - he is present, but not really here (at home). He's boring. She can control him, but because he does not maintain friendships outside the home, and other hobbies, he's 'always there' or too clingy/needy. And because she can control him, she is bored, and unhaaaapy'.

    Lose Lose for married men.

    And then the divorce comes and they lose even more and EVERYTHING is his fault no matter what because she has no sense of responsibility or accountability. HE MADE HER FEEL a certain way. ME MADE HER CHEAT. HE CAUSED the divorce.

    It all comes down to how men spend their time. If men are not spending it in service and utility to women, then they are bad - thus gaming is criticized heavily because for all the claims, boys and men still make up a vast majority of those who play video games.
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    After my XBox360 I bought last year a Playstation 4 and games. It was just an impulse. In the last weeks I intensely played the Role Play Game 'Divine Divinity Original Sin - Enh. Edition'. The same with the incredible game 'The last of us'. Awesome!

    As a freelancer I sometimes played this game before work. And after "work". Whenever I want. Or concentrating on my other hobby. I don't have to ask for permission. No compromises

    It's so nice to control my work. My spare time. My money. My contacts (=visits) in my social life.

    I am a dictator, sultan, sheik, king of my own life. And if I feel a need for a massage (or something else ) I do/pay it. Enough "small change" in my MGTOW-pockets

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    @chukhed
    you pose a great argument, Program.... nice to point out the "double standard" of just mindlessly watching TV and playing a game that involves keeping the synapses firing... ("Thief2" a case-in-point)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes View Post
    Actually, those achievements and fake accomplishments are just a facet of the critical explanations used to define why boys and men play video games. THE specific reason why - not so much.

    The bottom line is, a husband is going to work harder and do more, for his wife, for the family. How many single men have to put up with a honey do list on the weekend? Those errands and requests/demands for him to 'do even more' are simply more ways to keep his time productively occupied for her benefit.

    A married woman is celebrated for having interests and hobbies - and not losing herself/her identity.

    A married man? He's selfish and no good for taking time for himself and not burying himself in the totality of being a husband/father/family man.

    So no, false achievements in the game are not THE reason.

    Marriage is a lose/lose situation for men. Everyone should know it but the programming and indoctrination is still working, but not as well as t used to.

    Take that married man - who maintains his interests and hobbies. A woman's excuse for divorcing him is - he doesn't respect her and he distances himself from her and the family. He's selfish. She may not be bored, but she is 'unhapppppy' she can't control him.

    Now think about the married man who does not maintain friendships and hobbies. A woman's excuse for divorcing him is that he works too much and isn't there. Or - he is present, but not really here (at home). He's boring. She can control him, but because he does not maintain friendships outside the home, and other hobbies, he's 'always there' or too clingy/needy. And because she can control him, she is bored, and unhaaaapy'.

    Lose Lose for married men.

    And then the divorce comes and they lose even more and EVERYTHING is his fault no matter what because she has no sense of responsibility or accountability. HE MADE HER FEEL a certain way. ME MADE HER CHEAT. HE CAUSED the divorce.

    It all comes down to how men spend their time. If men are not spending it in service and utility to women, then they are bad - thus gaming is criticized heavily because for all the claims, boys and men still make up a vast majority of those who play video games.
    Well I read your earlier post and I think that's a better explanation for why gamers get bashed. The "fake" accomplishments thing - I don't think that's why males like video games, I think that's the conscious thought process that people who bash gamers go through, if that wasn't clear. I don't buy into the accomplishments surrogate thing because I still like playing games regardless of whether or not I feel like I'm making satisfactory life progress. I think that's true for men in general. If games were really about surrogate accomplishments, then we would see men turn away from them as they reach their goals in real life, but instead it seems like the opposite is true. Highly accomplished men who have always loved games still love them because they're a way to relax and unwind. Rich male celebrities still commonly play video games, for crying out loud.

    Personally, I just like games because they're fun. I don't think there needs to be a more complex explanation, games are just fun period.

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    I enjoy the "Agree and Amplify" approach to people who bash games -- usually something along the lines of "yeah, it's almost as bad as those losers who sit around and watch TV! They really need to get a life."

    I'm always amused, anyway.
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    I play games for fun, but also for immersing into a different world. I like experiencing new things. In the real world, those often cost a lot of money (take sky-diving for instance), a video game (at least on a sale) costs just about 10 bucks, especially if it's older or an indie production. It's not that my life would be boring without it but it's simply a nice, low-cost addition. Still waiting for Witcher 3 to become cheaper, must be an awesome game!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Victor View Post
    I enjoy the "Agree and Amplify" approach to people who bash games -- usually something along the lines of "yeah, it's almost as bad as those losers who sit around and watch TV! They really need to get a life."

    I'm always amused, anyway.
    yeah...besides.. their idea of "life" that they want us to "get".... is overrated anyway... (to para-quote from the original version of "Mage: The Ascension".... I'd rather go with Reality 2.0... heh)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    I like experiencing new things. In the real world, those often cost a lot of money (take sky-diving for instance)
    here's something I heard about that....
    "why does anyone pay so much money to jump out of a perfectly good plane???"
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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    I play games for fun, but also for immersing into a different world. I like experiencing new things. In the real world, those often cost a lot of money (take sky-diving for instance), a video game (at least on a sale) costs just about 10 bucks, especially if it's older or an indie production. It's not that my life would be boring without it but it's simply a nice, low-cost addition. Still waiting for Witcher 3 to become cheaper, must be an awesome game!
    I don't play multiplayer games and I have the patience to wait until the price comes down. Another upside is that I always tend to have a computer way faster than what the game needs without spending a fortune on it. It's the same for going to the movies, either pay 10 bucks for a single showing or wait until the bluray goes on sale. Or just forget about it and wait until you come across it on Netflix.

    Gaming can be a really cheap hobby if you can resist the urge the get the latest games or hardware. Just don't forget to get out the house for some exercise too.

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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    Another perfect example:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac_IGSEi4lE

    Normally, i enjoy much of Gavin's McInnes rantings about the SWJs and feminists libtards.. but to blatantly attack the gaming community? Where is your outrage that people watch too much fucking tv? Maybe i should bash everyone that makes a fucking youtube video and call them narcissists. Would that be a fair and just generalization???

    He admits the gaming community scored a huge win against SJWs with #gamergate, and still he bashes us with the same high school mentality name-calling as all the SJWs do.

    Hey pal, are you one of them? Because calling us fat losers living in our mom's basement is something i expect from feminazis. At one point, you even go on to say that we should be getting married and having kids {although, this may have been from one of your other vids}. Sometimes i cant help but wonder where your real priorities lie. Can we men do what we want with our lives without always having someone there to dictate whether or not it's acceptable? Holy fuck dude.
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    Re: Fascist Hypocrites Vs Gamers

    The thing is that games are now a higher art form than movies.

    Compare a big budget PC release like The Witcher or Mass Effect to the latest Hollywood film. The writing alone is better in games now.

    One of the reasons that films are so feminised now is that the male demographic has moved to gaming because it is now a superior art form. If only women go to the movies now, then they have to make films to appeal to them.
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