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    should dating sites be illegal?

    a little over 2 years ago.. I quit OKCupid with what I can only call "extreme prejudice".... (meaning I figured I was cheated)
    it was the so-called "straw that broke the camel's back".. since my exp with such sites was always the same...
    willful misleading advertising
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    ads all said "meet hundreds of local singles".. well.. 7 or 8 in a broad search (ages 21-40, 50 miles) is NOT "hundreds"...
    what really did it for OKCupid didn't end there..... I found myself being "shot down" before I could even read the profiles.... and what was all the more dishonorable, the site's owner wouldn't do me the decency of letting me get high enough to crash first...

    sorry for the venting.... but any ideas as what to do with those "unpersons"???? (as far as pay sites go... anyone think there's a way we can charge them with "legal larceny"???)

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    EDIT: I will admit I used only "free" sites... but I guess the only good thing I got out of the matter is that I didn't have a lighter wallet and nothing to show for my troubles... in fact, the only reply I got was from some woman using the site as a front for prostitution....
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    You got off easy. I paid for memberships on a few sites over a decade ago. A total waste of money and time.
    One site employed robots to interact with male members. I didn't realize it until I read the EULA and canceled my
    membership after writing a scathing email to the webmaster.

    My brother got results on eharmony but he makes in excess of $200k per year. Go figure. I thought eharmony
    sucked because they have an income floor of $40k for men but no such limit for women. Again, go figure.


    You can't go after them for larceny. Nobody forces someone to join a dating site. It's a nice thought in any case.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    You can't go after them for larceny. Nobody forces someone to join a dating site. It's a nice thought in any case.
    odd... I thought "theft by deception" was a form of larceny...... (as I mentioned about the "misleading advertising"... I never got the "hundreds" the ads promised... might be different if they said "potentially" hundreds.... but they didn't, so.....)

    besides.. as the Clanners say.. "deception is a Freebirth trait."
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    odd... I thought "theft by deception" was a form of larceny...... (as I mentioned about the "misleading advertising"... I never got the "hundreds" the ads promised... might be different if they said "potentially" hundreds.... but they didn't, so.....)
    The trick is likely in the EULA for the site. I was scammed for over $100 for one site, but since I didn't read the fine print before paying, it is my fault.
    Live and learn.

    Most people are tricked because of "call to action" verbiage. I recommend reading every word of an EULA before signing up for any site.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I found myself being "shot down" before I could even read the profiles....
    Can you explain what you mean by that? I'm having trouble imagining what exactly was happening.

    Also, do you live in a low population area?

    As far as pay sites (and I don't know if this is all of them), according to some women I've talked to, it's like an online version of ladies night at the bar. The women will get something like a "silver" level account for free which gives them a lot of site privileges that men will have to pay for.

    Women have a very different experience on dating sites than men do.
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Women have a very different experience on dating sites than men do.
    That's true. For now.

    As more men get fed up and walk away, this will change.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Can you explain what you mean by that? I'm having trouble imagining what exactly was happening.
    well.. this site had a "matching system" of sorts... what they did was have you answer numerous questions about various things... like how you felt on things like smoking, the environment, relationships, and social issues... the idea was that the more you answered, the more "precise" your matches would become...

    but as I said.. only got a handful of profiles.. and the thing was most of them were reading 55%, 65%, or even 75% "enemy"..
    and if that wasn't enough... just how does "bi women only" pop up in a search for "women who like men"?? (and the ones that looked even remotely message-able hadn't logged in for months, a couple even hadn't logged in for 5 years....)


    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Also, do you live in a low population area?
    depends on what you call "low".. I don't think the Dayton area is that sparse.....
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    well.. this site had a "matching system" of sorts... what they did was have you answer numerous questions about various things... like how you felt on things like smoking, the environment, relationships, and social issues... the idea was that the more you answered, the more "precise" your matches would become...

    but as I said.. only got a handful of profiles.. and the thing was most of them were reading 55%, 65%, or even 75% "enemy"..
    and if that wasn't enough... just how does "bi women only" pop up in a search for "women who like men"?? (and the ones that looked even remotely message-able hadn't logged in for months, a couple even hadn't logged in for 5 years....)



    depends on what you call "low".. I don't think the Dayton area is that sparse.....
    Okay. I understand. You know, I've always been suspicious of all those personality tests to determine a relationship match. I actually think there could be certain questions that, if you answer in an "impermissible" way, will have a drastic and negative impact on your result.
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by William Noy View Post
    Okay. I understand. You know, I've always been suspicious of all those personality tests to determine a relationship match. I actually think there could be certain questions that, if you answer in an "impermissible" way, will have a drastic and negative impact on your result.
    well.. I have heard of a site called "fling.com".. but I don't think I'd join that... I have tried being a swinger for a bit.. but that never panned out.. seems the only singles who get anywhere in that crowd are bisexual women....
    thing is.. I get that... and its like my y-chromosome is being held against me in yet another fashion....
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Dating sites "trigger" me, as they say.
    Trigger as in makes me want to blow my brains out.
    Can't stand them, nothing full of entitled little socialite hipsters and their trendy stupid little social norms.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    ads all said "meet hundreds of local singles".. well.. 7 or 8 in a broad search (ages 21-40, 50 miles) is NOT "hundreds"...
    I saw a TV ad for some website, promising hundreds of local singles. It showed a map of Australia, with dots in clusters placed all over it. LOL! The Great Victoria Desert has hundreds of local singles! The Simpson Desert has hundreds of local singles! The Tanami Desert has hundreds of local singles! The Cape York jungle has hundreds of local singles! The impenetrable, crocodile-infested mangrove swamps of the gulf have hundreds of local singles! Hot women just waiting to meet you!

    Funny as hell. Fucking ignorant. Not even trying.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    I saw a TV ad for some website, promising hundreds of local singles. It showed a map of Australia, with dots in clusters placed all over it. LOL! The Great Victoria Desert has hundreds of local singles! The Simpson Desert has hundreds of local singles! The Tanami Desert has hundreds of local singles! The Cape York jungle has hundreds of local singles! The impenetrable, crocodile-infested mangrove swamps of the gulf have hundreds of local singles! Hot women just waiting to meet you!

    Funny as hell. Fucking ignorant. Not even trying.
    Something plusunright about that..., good case for misleading advertising

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Eh I've never done online dating but don't even get me started. For me it's all about common sense. Females doing online dating are there for a reason - looking for beta bucks, unusually physically unattractive, etc. Why would any woman date online unless she HAD TO? Men doing online dating, on the other hand, are normal, good guys just trying to get some. I wouldn't be able to stand that stacked deck - where I'm just another peon trying to get attention. That's the thing - I haven't dated online but I've done online chatrooms for singles before, and men are treated and perceived as absolute scum. If ANY man gets ANY attention, it's because he habitually dominates everyone.

    I mean, how many profiles have you seen that essentially boil down to "If you can't handle me at my worst, you don't deserve me at my best"? YAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW WWWWWN, done with that shit for a lifetime!

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    The whole concept of a dating site should be rethought from the ground up. And that assumes they ever could work for men anyway.

    They could stop putting pussy on a pedastol for one thing. But then what woman would sign up when there are so many other dating sites that give them the VIP treatment? Dating sites merely reflect the dysfunction of the real world: they worship women and extract money from men with false promises of sex.

    Anyone here have experience with Escort Sites? I'm thinking that would be the closest thing to a dating site that actually delivers what it advertises.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhorse View Post
    They could stop putting pussy on a pedestal for one thing. But then what woman would sign up when there are so many other dating sites that give them the VIP treatment? Dating sites merely reflect the dysfunction of the real world: they worship women and extract money from men with false promises of sex.
    actually... I was only looking for new friends when I was trying OKCupid..... (mainly ppl to game with.. like chess, magic the gathering, or Shadowrun)


    Quote Originally Posted by crazyhorse View Post
    Anyone here have experience with Escort Sites? I'm thinking that would be the closest thing to a dating site that actually delivers what it advertises.
    wouldn't use them, even if they were legal..... which they are not....
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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    wouldn't use them, even if they were legal..... which they are not....
    I guess that depends on what country you're talking about. Still, even if they were legal? I wouldn't have a moral problem with that.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    why not add a little irony to a dating site?

    If the male user of the site is required to disclose proof of income (like eHarmony), then:
    The female must also disclose proof of sexual history.

    That ought to shake things up in the online dating world.

    That new consent app could work both ways...

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    That's pretty clever. I don't know if women would sign up en masse since they love getting their cake and eating it too (guys have to prove their worth but women shouldn't have to). But if you could come up with some clever means by which women could somehow prove their sexual history it might get a few laughs and draw attention to female hypocrisy.

    You'd need some kind of referral system that also couldn't be abused with deliberate slander. There would have to be financial consequences for being discovered as a liar, both for her and for the people who gave the referrals. Maybe a damage deposit of some kind that they forfeit if they're found to be making false statements.

    That could work. It might be hard to find out in advance who a woman has slept with but you can make the penalties for lying so steep that she won't risk it. It needs a snappy name.

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    Quote Originally Posted by LastPriory View Post
    If the male user of the site is required to disclose proof of income (like eHarmony), then:The female must also disclose proof of sexual history.
    Yup - a good place for a VagFax!

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    Re: should dating sites be illegal?

    I keep getting internet ads saying some hottie three miles away wants in. Ha. There's more singles in the middle of the outback.
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