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    I've been getting loads of video's popping up on You Tube about 'tiny houses'.

    I'd never heard of them so I decided to take a peek into it.

    They are, obviously, really small houses - but on wheels, stuck out in the middle of nowhere. I don't get it. Isn't that what caravans are for? It kinda sounds like a romantic ideal but translates in reality to what caravans are - shitting in a bucket and having no space for anything. They all talk about living off the land, but I am still waiting to see even a single garden growing anything.

    From what I've seen on these video's so far, it is mainly bohemian type women doing this - or couples where the man has been conned into going for it as a 'joint' dream.

    Has anybody else seen or heard about this recent fad??

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    I've read in the newspaper from time to time in the last several years about the tiny house movement (if it is indeed that formalized) but not that they are only located out in the toolies. But, yeah, mostly women. Articles in the newspaper will feature the tiny houses by writing about their inhabitant's lifestyle.

    I always think about the motivations of people who, to me, are obsessing on less-is-best, maybe trying to be least unnoticeable to Mother Earth, perhaps atoning for themselves or for others. I'd like to maybe ask them, what happens when you want to have children? Do they simply expand, move away, looking at their thrift as a transitory thing?

    It reminds me of people who live on boats in a marina, the economy of space, the self-imposed lifestyle limitations. Although, it seems to me, their motivations appear to be not identical to those who live in the tiny houses. Wanting to be in and around water, for one difference.
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    Thanks allot, Donkey, I had no idea you had such disdain for my 1969 camp/shack/house condemned 5 years later in 1974 as the entire development was lawfully enjoined from operating. It may be a small house/shack/camp but it's surrounded by hundreds of acres of apocalyptic relics and overgrowth! I'm a retake of Davy Crockett/Malcolm X! You should come to one of my camper (caravan) fires, it'll change your opinion about allot of things! I like when it blazes down to the tires and they pop! But you better hurry up, we're running low on abandoned campers!
    Personally, if you ask me, you're better robbing aluminum light poles and brass bridge plaques than stripping campers for all their worth!

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    A big part of the tiny house dream was to build shelter for yourself minus a mortgage. A way to avoid debt. The reality as many found out was much different.

    A tiny house typically violated and fractures just about every building code or zoning ordinance almost everywhere. People were building these things and then finding out they could not put it anywhere. Many that are in use are sneaking by until someone notices it and the hassles begin.

    I guess the fight to legitimatize them still goes on in some limited fashion. I saw something about a trailer park letting some tiny houses in. I guess that somewhat worked with zoning.

    I get the part about I won't want a mortgage if I will sacrifice 80% of my living space. The part I always thought was funny is how many people built these things without thinking to check if they could use it where they intended. Then were forced to sell it for a fraction of what it cost them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Thanks allot, Donkey, I had no idea you had such disdain for my 1969 camp/shack/house condemned 5 years later in 1974 as the entire development was lawfully enjoined from operating. It may be a small house/shack/camp but it's surrounded by hundreds of acres of apocalyptic relics and overgrowth! I'm a retake of Davy Crockett/Malcolm X! You should come to one of my camper (caravan) fires, it'll change your opinion about allot of things! I like when it blazes down to the tires and they pop! But you better hurry up, we're running low on abandoned campers!
    Personally, if you ask me, you're better robbing aluminum light poles and brass bridge plaques than stripping campers for all their worth!
    Yeah, I saw your domicile in the news recently. It was built in 1964 so your deed is wrong.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Thanks allot, Donkey, I had no idea you had such disdain for my 1969 camp/shack/house condemned 5 years later in 1974 as the entire development was lawfully enjoined from operating. It may be a small house/shack/camp but it's surrounded by hundreds of acres of apocalyptic relics and overgrowth! I'm a retake of Davy Crockett/Malcolm X! You should come to one of my camper (caravan) fires, it'll change your opinion about allot of things! I like when it blazes down to the tires and they pop! But you better hurry up, we're running low on abandoned campers!
    Personally, if you ask me, you're better robbing aluminum light poles and brass bridge plaques than stripping campers for all their worth!

    Yours can't be that small...you've got a garage!!! If you've got a MASSIVE 'tiny house', you'll find that it's affectionately known as.....'a house'.

    And aren't you King of your woods?? I don't mind woods. You're good with a hammer. Can't you build me a mansion sized tiny house somewhere near yours? - but not in a direct line of the toxic tyre fumes.

    I'd help you with the building work - but my leg hurts. I'd help you with the cost too - but, unfortunately, I'm as tight as a fly's arsehole.

    I'll be round on Thursday neighbour!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    A big part of the tiny house dream was to build shelter for yourself minus a mortgage. A way to avoid debt. The reality as many found out was much different.

    A tiny house typically violated and fractures just about every building code or zoning ordinance almost everywhere. People were building these things and then finding out they could not put it anywhere. Many that are in use are sneaking by until someone notices it and the hassles begin.

    I guess the fight to legitimatize them still goes on in some limited fashion. I saw something about a trailer park letting some tiny houses in. I guess that somewhat worked with zoning.

    I get the part about I won't want a mortgage if I will sacrifice 80% of my living space. The part I always thought was funny is how many people built these things without thinking to check if they could use it where they intended. Then were forced to sell it for a fraction of what it cost them.
    Yeah...that 'mortgage free' part I can fully understand. One of the points that I was getting at was it seemed to be mostly women claiming to have built these things - but really they were just 'helping' build it. Plus, they all wanted to be completely at one with nature and self sufficient - and I didn't see as much as one self grown tomato in the vicinity. I'm suspecting that most of them were making a daily trip down to the nearest supermarket for provisions.

    I also wonder if many of them were pretending to have chosen that lifestyle - or whether it was forced on them through necessity and they were just putting a brave face on it. On their own, expensive mortgage, nowhere near enough income to provide them with what they really want. I'm sure some of them are legit and will make it work - but I'm not totally convinced it'll be a large percentage of them.

    Not exactly a 'tiny house' - but the same principle of putting a brave face on living somewhere you really don't want to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Keyknob View Post
    I've been getting loads of video's popping up on You Tube about 'tiny houses'.

    I'd never heard of them so I decided to take a peek into it.

    They are, obviously, really small houses - but on wheels, stuck out in the middle of nowhere. I don't get it. Isn't that what caravans are for? It kinda sounds like a romantic ideal but translates in reality to what caravans are - shitting in a bucket and having no space for anything. They all talk about living off the land, but I am still waiting to see even a single garden growing anything.

    From what I've seen on these video's so far, it is mainly bohemian type women doing this - or couples where the man has been conned into going for it as a 'joint' dream.

    Has anybody else seen or heard about this recent fad??
    They've been a big thing here in recent years, but the idea is slowly fading. When I first heard of them and saw how much they cost I thought: Don't these already exist in the form of RV's or campers which have been around for decades?! I guess it's more environmentally friendly to build one from scratch and call it a 'Tiny House.' Hell, in many cases campers/RV's are nicer and are typically cheaper. It's a neat idea I guess, but God Bless anyone who can adjust their lifestyle to fit into one of them. I think most folks do it for the mobility, and to be free of the trappings of a traditional house/mortgage. Trading that for life experiences...
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    I like the idea for a small Hunting or maybe Fishing cabin way out in the boon-docks some place.

    Maybe even a short time winter retreat in the mountains.... But not for full time living...hell no!

    I can see it now,...I'd be all cozy and comfy ...fixin me up a pot of CoonAss Red beans and rice and about 2:30 am I fart and suffocate in that dog box..

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    I have heard of them but like what most posters said Rv, Trailer, ect. These tiny houses are expensive. I think its just a fad that will end up fading into the abyss. I wouldn't say no to a cabin in the woods but I would have to make a few modifications long term.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zasta View Post
    I have heard of them but like what most posters said Rv, Trailer, ect. These tiny houses are expensive. I think its just a fad that will end up fading into the abyss. I wouldn't say no to a cabin in the woods but I would have to make a few modifications long term.
    Very true...Like adding 1500 sq.ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Yeah, I saw your domicile in the news recently. It was built in 1964 so your deed is wrong.
    Most people around here threw their deeds in the trash and stopped paying taxes! I was going by the age of the tires! I stand corrected!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Don Keyknob View Post
    Yours can't be that small...you've got a garage!!! If you've got a MASSIVE 'tiny house', you'll find that it's affectionately known as.....'a house'.

    And aren't you King of your woods?? I don't mind woods. You're good with a hammer. Can't you build me a mansion sized tiny house somewhere near yours? - but not in a direct line of the toxic tyre fumes.

    I'd help you with the building work - but my leg hurts. I'd help you with the cost too - but, unfortunately, I'm as tight as a fly's arsehole.

    I'll be round on Thursday neighbour!!!
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    I think the tiny house fad was really fueled by the cachet. It was another way of making a counterculture statement. So of course whimyn were all over it, until they learned their shoe collection would not fit.

    I looked into tiny houses, but as noted above, I could not really see any difference between a RV and a towed house. Honestly, the RV might cost more, but it would last longer and be better to live in.

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    Mortgage free is just one of the reasons. Starting over, prepers, excessive home prices, there lot of reasons to get down to just the basics.
    Some places have set up whole communities. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98cA93bElno

    Myself, working on getting back to what I need and use and not a bunch of stuff I just want.

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    These things have to be heavy and hard to tow. No way your average car could do the job, even though you see pictures of people trying. Unless you have a pretty stout truck you won't be moving it yourself. Don't see one holding up long if you did haul it around much either. There's a reason cars aren't built with nails holding them together.

    There's two places I think a tiny house would be a good idea. If you could put one on your own property as guest housing, that would be sweet. Guests would have their own space, yet the small size would discourage long visits. Living outside the city limits in a quiet neighborhood, I could probably get away with it. The property tax people would eventually raise my house tax's, but unless someone complained to the building permit people, it would likely be ignored even though it's not really legal. If you used one while buying land outside the city, or getting a run down house, that would probably work. My house wasn't livable when I got it, but I did have water, electricity and a septic system. I used a converted school bus as a sort of self propelled tiny home. Not much for glamor, though it did the job for several years.

    It needs to be said that American travel trailers and RV's are built really shoddy considering how much the cost. This leads to endless trouble keeping everything in working condition. Building your own would be best, if you can swing it. So the tiny house people have a good idea, their just doing it wrong.
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    How small is 'tiny'?
    My little house is barely 600 sq.ft.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Willers View Post
    How small is 'tiny'?
    My little house is barely 600 sq.ft.
    The ones I see are about 200 square feet. Congrats Eddie, you have a double wide!

    All my things fit in a small two bedroom house. I like small places too, but 200 square feet wouldn't be near enough. Not for a full time residence.
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    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    I like small places too, but 200 square feet wouldn't be near enough. Not for a full time residence.
    Agreed - although I wouldn't say I'm a tight fit, I do have to haul a ton of crap up from Mexico, still.
    Oh well, as long as there's a place for everything and everything's in its place.
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