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    Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    Okay, so I'm part of some polyamory/open relationship groups on FB. It's a thoroughly blue-pill space, because as "the gatekeepers of sex" women are the lynchpin. You'll rarely have an issue finding guys that want to spread the love, right?


    Except... it's not so much a matter of "fucking anything with a pulse" which is more like swinging, but rather the idea of honest affection and caring for more than one person. Some things I've noticed is that, true to fashion, men are far more mentally equipped to cope with permissiveness than women are. Guys are (generally) built for spreading the love, while women are (generally) evolved for jealousy and ownership. Ever wonder why there is so much cuckold porn but very little cuckqueen porn? Because Supply and Demand, that's why...


    That doesn't mean that poly women are super possessive (though there are some THOTs that claim to be open, yet continually sabotage their partners attempts at other relationships, just like anybody else with Cluster-B personality disorders) but it is something that all poly folks have to deal with, and tends to be harder on women. Communication and self-validation is key to successful polyamory, or else you're gonna mangle everybody involved. It is definitely not for the faint of heart.


    And as the gatekeepers of sex, you can damn well bet that the girl is gonna be getting WAY MORE OFFERS than you are. It's just how people are evolved. That's why swinging is such a shit deal for guys. Since it's about "Quantity over Quality", men are at an extreme disadvantage in such circumstances. A particularly hilarious example of this was on Jezebel several years back.


    https://jezebel.com/dudes-demand-for...tac-1578409074


    There is a problem with sexual predators in open relationship circles, either maneaters who target guys and claim openness, but passive-aggressively enforce monogamy on their partners through gaslighting (like the gold-digger did to me), often single-moms scheming to lockdown a guy; or fuckboys looking for an easy Pump & Dump. My girlfriend Atea got bruised a couple of times by dudes like that, to the point that her husband said that I was the only guy he believed would not screw her over. It took her a while to trust that I wasn't going anywhere. Her husband just got a new girlfriend too, and that's awesome! I hear she's a great chick. <3


    I myself decided to be strictly open-relationship not due to wanting tons of women (though it's nice getting the attention) but because all of my best-friends have always been girls. I got lucky and was gifted with an alpha body (though being forcibly driven to Gamma-hood by my mother was certainly a disservice) and with the Asperger's, I always missed the flirting girls were doing with me. So I was really just GREAT friends with a number of lovely girls. And every single last time I have distanced myself from one of those friends because a monogamist girlfriend got jealous, it always ends in tears... I lose a wonderful friend, and the jealous bitch monkey-branches. And I'm done with that shit.


    One of the best parts of polyamory as opposed to swinging is that I'm not always thirsting for chicks anymore. The desperation is gone. Part of that is being 43 years old and therefore kinda "over it" when it comes to sex, and also very much because my psycho-meds have a side-effect of lowering the libido drastically. When you're maniacally hypersexual (as is common among folks with bipolar or C_PTSD) it comes as a blessing. And when you've got a stable of regular girls, what's so fucking special about "just another gym-thot"?

    That doesn't mean you can't still get "sex fever", as I call it... I've been overextending myself emotionally with my 2nd girlfriend, and I got to get a handle on that shit if I want to be successful as a MGTOW and Stag. New Relationship Energy (or NRE, as the poly/BDSM community calls it) is both wildly addictive and wildy destructive, if not carefully monitored. It's a double-edged blade, not just in it's meteoric splendour, but also WHEN IT FADES... No system can run that hot for that long. Sooner or later, it crashes...


    This is why you see so damn many serial-monogamists among women. They are addicted to "falling in love" again and again, always demanding Commitment, and then monkey-branching when they get bored. Men are much less likely to do this sort of thing, but NRE fucks us up plenty as well.


    NRE is what I'm fighting now, cause my 2nd honey is blossoming into a well-coifed, enthusiastic, and properly-obedient dirtygirl (and loving it!), and that shit is HOT. And while she does appear to be a monogamist, she's accepting of my Stag status, and honestly, I think it turns her on a little, cause girls prefer men who have options (and choose to be with them) over desperate guys. Just part of hypergamy. And if they can't handle it, well... there's the door. No hard feelings.


    Unsurprisingly, THE WALL IS A FACTOR.


    From what I've noticed, women don't open up to the idea of poly until in their mid-late 30's. Young hot chicks are already swimming in male attention, so if they are gonna be "open" they are much more likely to swing (standard cock-carousel) or just flat out cheat, cause bitches... in terms of SMV, poly-girls seem mostly to be about 5-6... often overweight (though there is a small number who pointed pursue "Looks-maxing", due to increased confidence and sexually competitive nature among animals.)


    I've known a number of poly-girls (often overlooked in their youth) who abandon the victim mentality and bust their ass night and day to get hotter, rather than deluding themselves about the Wall. This is their Time of Glory. Poly-guys tend to be in the same age range, hitting their "second wind" and are climbing in SMV, and the ladies are VERY aware of that, if they don't admit it. Ofcourse, there are some women who still expect the guys to just come running, and they are as bitter as always...


    Again, it is decidedly liberal, and there is alot of crossover into the BDSM/kink communities, as well as goth/punk culture. Poly-folks tend to be quite intelligent and well-read, often very creative, quasi-nonconformist (cause holy-shit, they've eschewed monogamy, for goodness sake) so there's plenty of green, blue, stark-white, shock-red, black, and otherwise coloured hair, undercuts, tattoos, cosplay elements, otherkin, scarypretties (vampires/witches, primals); and honestly it's everything I ever wanted in girls. Back when I was 20, those kinda chicks were all I dreamt of.


    Overall, I find it highly compatible with Bachelor-MGTOW, because gender roles are already considered malleable, monogamy is viewed as a sham, and societal expectations held in a bit of contempt. Make no mistake.. none of this will prevent a divorce-rape, drama-queens, gossip, or anything else that comes along with female involvement... but it is a much more "conscious" community, far better than regular Blue-pill ideology.
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners. Go Your Own Way, on a molecular scale. <3

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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    At last !!!
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    Gossip is a human trait not just a women trait .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    It's funny how much one's views can change after going MGTOW. When I was in my early/mid-20's I basically had rotations of girls I was dating/fucking at all times. There was no real commitment or anything, but I wasn't really part of a polyamory community or anything like that; it was more or less just casual dating/sex. I'm sure the girls were probably doing the exact same thing.

    Even though it was sort of fun at the time, there's no fucking way I would do this now. It amazes me how badly things have changed in really just a few short years. With metoo and rape hysteria, the amount of risk involved even just talking to girls has increased to what I consider unacceptable levels. If I was still in college, I'd be too scared to even approach girls on campus, let alone date or fuck them.

    The quality of girls has declined greatly as well. It was frustrating enough dealing with them back in the day, but the ones I see now make my previous experiences look enviable. In particular, the leftist/feminist bullshit has so completely infected them, they've become completely intolerable to even talk to. The drug and alcohol use is through the roof, and so many of them are fat, tatted up, and have bastard kids. It amazes me how many of them will tell you they have one or more kids, often by different guys, and they say it with absolutely no shame...almost as if they are proud.

    Even though women are more unattractive and damaged than they were a few years ago, their standards have increased to the point of being delusional. I've never exactly been a Chad, but I was always in great shape, reasonably attractive, and had an interesting enough lifestyle that I could attract decent girls every now and then. Even when I struck out, it wasn't always a bad experience, and sometimes it was even fun or enjoyable.

    Now girls are insulting guys right off the bat. Even if they like you, even if they let you fuck them later, they throw so much attitude at you during the interaction that it's not even worth it to get in their pants. You certainly don't want to date them or have relationships with them. There are a lot of them who are just plain hateful and nasty. No matter what you do, or how you approach them, it's like they want to unleash all their fucking hate and psychosis on every guy they meet.

    For me anyway, it just isn't worth it anymore. There's other things I'd rather be doing, and the incentive just isn't there. I never in my life thought I'd get to a point where I didn't want to talk to or be around women, but I am there now. I don't even want to look at them anymore. That's how bad they've gotten.

    I feel really bad for a lot of the younger guys out there. At least I sort of got to experience something, before things went completely to shit. But man...what a world we live in today. The women are just fucking horrible, and society is so much more corrupt and hateful towards men. It's just gotten awful.

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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    The joy among the mess??? Not seeing too much joy in what you spelled out here. To each their own.

    I can't even comprehend the joy(??) of dealing with multiple women on a very very personal level like this.
    Perfect way to multiply, magnify and amplify bullshit from women in my eyes. It seems like a great way to provide grief for yourself 24/7/365.
    Can't even imagine when the bullshit dies down from 1, then 1 or 2 more start up . Or when 2 are cool and one fires all 3 up or what not.

    Best of luck to you. Enjoy all that joy.
    "People are always angry at anyone who chooses very individual standards for his life; because of the extraordinary treatment which that man grants to himself, they feel degraded, like ordinary beings."
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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    The joy among the mess??? Not seeing too much joy in what you spelled out here. To each their own.

    I can't even comprehend the joy(??) of dealing with multiple women on a very very personal level like this.
    Perfect way to multiply, magnify and amplify bullshit from women in my eyes. It seems like a great way to provide grief for yourself 24/7/365.
    Can't even imagine when the bullshit dies down from 1, then 1 or 2 more start up . Or when 2 are cool and one fires all 3 up or what not.

    Best of luck to you. Enjoy all that joy.
    Probably the joy of knowing that all parties are just playing .

    Its like American sports - the players do not give a fuck about the game and just have fun thinking about the money, with no tension . That makes them the best in the world . Rather than fighting for the pride and glory lol and thus failing .
    You cant keep a player down!
    Dont hate him , hate your fuking bullshit game !

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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post

    Best of luck to you. Enjoy all that joy.
    Lol, I guess I did focus on the mechanics and realities of polyamory, rather than the joys.. Lol. I'll get back to that later.

    The *very* TLDR version:

    The joy is banging girls up and down the wall, then sending them home for somebody else to worry about. The emotional labour isn't there, because it's spread throughout many people, and it's all on the table. No lying or sneaking around. Now keep in mind, I live alone, and insist on living alone. Nobody fucking owns me.

    The bulk of these girls have husbands, wives, lovers, boyfriends, girlfriends, kids, etc. All kinds of things to keep them busy which are NOT MY PROBLEM.
    I refuse to let it become my problem too. I'm upfront about being poly, which is bonafide Girl-B-Gone for most Thots. I have no need of chasing girls, cause I get all I want. And it's the feral shit too. It's simply taking advantage of the dual-mating strategy... and it works. Like I said, this is not for the faint of heart.

    And keep in mind, this is just the way I have ALWAYS been. Since I was a little kid; loving multiple girls has always been my way. I chafe horribly under monogamy, it's like living in a cage. It just feels filthy to me. *shrug*
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners. Go Your Own Way, on a molecular scale. <3

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    Quote Originally Posted by devilcomeknockin View Post
    Lol, I guess I did focus on the mechanics and realities of polyamory, rather than the joys.. Lol. I'll get back to that later.

    The *very* TLDR version:

    The joy is banging girls up and down the wall, then sending them home for somebody else to worry about. The emotional labour isn't there, because it's spread throughout many people, and it's all on the table. No lying or sneaking around. Now keep in mind, I live alone, and insist on living alone. Nobody fucking owns me.

    The bulk of these girls have husbands, wives, lovers, boyfriends, girlfriends, kids, etc. All kinds of things to keep them busy which are NOT MY PROBLEM.
    I refuse to let it become my problem too. I'm upfront about being poly, which is bonafide Girl-B-Gone for most Thots. I have no need of chasing girls, cause I get all I want. And it's the feral shit too. It's simply taking advantage of the dual-mating strategy... and it works. Like I said, this is not for the faint of heart.

    And keep in mind, this is just the way I have ALWAYS been. Since I was a little kid; loving multiple girls has always been my way. I chafe horribly under monogamy, it's like living in a cage. It just feels filthy to me. *shrug*
    Monogamy is filthy in more ways than one .

    In monogamous lol couples at least one party is always lied to from the get go . At least one party just uses the other . At least one party is always on a look out for something better .

    Its a way to make unsuspecting males voluntary slaves . If they knew right off that are not good enough for any woman they wouldnt even try and would enjoy their life rather than suffer through it .

    It enables unworthy males to procreate and faulty genes to spread like wild fire .

    Overpopulation that leads to oligarchy .

    And then you are denied euthanasia
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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    In monogamous lol couples at least one party is always lied to from the get go . At least one party just uses the other . At least one party is always on a look out for something better .

    Its a way to make unsuspecting males voluntary slaves . If they knew right off that are not good enough for any woman they wouldnt even try and would enjoy their life rather than suffer through it .
    Yup, 'monogamy' is for men who can't do better and are probably depressed with mental health issues.

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    Re: Polyamory: The Joy among the Mess...

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Probably the joy of knowing that all parties are just playing .

    Its like American sports - the players do not give a fuck about the game and just have fun thinking about the money, with no tension . That makes them the best in the world . Rather than fighting for the pride and glory lol and thus failing .
    Alik pretty much nailed it. My earlier explanation was a bit defensive, and so I pointed out a more Redpill analysis. Honestly, it's all on the table. These are my sweet friends, and they look after me. Any girl I get involved with gets run through the gauntlet, from a Honey Badger who is strictly platonic, to my girlfriends, to the greater poly group in my area. If you get a bad reputation, people will hear about it. There are support and interest groups for practically ANY shade of poly, from goths to autists, to abuse survivors, to psychics, to atheists, to christians, to disabled folks, to sports to hotrods, to carpentry, to UFO's, to bigfoot, to homesteaders. There's serious value in that kind of thing...

    Most of it is just people talking about stuff. Hookup culture is pretty well frowned upon, STD prevention is brutally enforced, and if you ask a question about virtually any practical matter in life, you're gonna get answers. Buying a house? We got realtors. Investing? We got bankers. Insurance or medical issues? We got adjusters, nurses, doctors... Getting a horse? We got riders. Setting up a chicken coupe? Yep. Problem with addiction?, we're all over it. And nobody hocks their wares in the groups, that's disallowed.

    And this is just the community. It ain't like *everybody* is fucking each other all the time... that shit's for losers. But we can damn well make jokes about it!

    But one of the benefits of dating strictly polyamorous is that NOBODY is expecting you to make them the center of your existence. As a matter of fact, we got watchdogs for that shit too. Just ask.

    So yeah.. there's alot of joy.

    PS: It is utterly amazing viewing this all through the Redpill sunglasses while ghosting. None of them have a clue!
    And it's nothing but wide open prairie...

    There's something very fun about MGTOW. In an odd sense, like charting a new territory of the mind, or rediscovering a long lost civilization. Occult knowledge, secret societies, cannibal natives (THOTS), it's all very exciting... lololol.

    Abandon the Abandoners. Go Your Own Way, on a molecular scale. <3


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