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    Demisexuality. An example of the creation of potential victim status.

    According to dictionary.com, Demisexuality is a sexual orientation characterized by only experiencing sexual attraction after making a strong emotional connection with a specific person.

    They go on to say the term was coined in 2006 by a forum user sonofzeal on asexuality.org to encapsulate his explanation of how his feelings of sexual attraction manifest themselves. Here is sonofzeal’s actual post used for that attribution, as best I can find:

    Posted February 24, 2006

    For me it's gradual (attraction for me is based on emotional bonding far more than physical appearance), but from my understanding, most non-a males in my area are far less... "selective". The difference between "yeah she looks pretty/sexy" and "I'd totally do her" is almost entirely contingent on her being entirely unnacceptable in some other way - Paris Hilton would be a good example of the difference. So basically, I'd say either, depending on whether the sexual attraction is emotionally based or physically based.

    https://www.asexuality.org/en/topic/...comment-384674
    In a subsequent post on that same page, sonofzeal acknowledges, "Yeah, we’re messed up people." More on that later.

    No wait, I’ll talk about it now. His avatar is one of those cartoon My Little Pony horseheads. He’s on a site called asexuality.org, probably the closest idea he can find to chat with others. I’ll grant him that. He’s talking to others who also share how they feel. From the context presented, it appears that many of them, if not most, are women. Start connecting the dots here. This site allows people to be open and sharing about how they feel about their sexual expression. Like any discussion forum, it is not rare to see, interspersed within the sincerity there, attempts by some to test ideas that may not be true for themselves but they test them to see how palatable the ideas are, how salable they are, by presenting them to the other people for their reaction or for their general level of acceptance. Hey, if no one says your ideas are weird or BS, you might just decide to adopt them as your explanation for yourself instead of revealing the truth.

    So what am I getting at? I think sonofzeal, avatar and all, is likely homosexual and is at that early stage of denial/self-acceptance where he negotiates with himself his feelings. He knows he doesn’t get instant boners for girls like the other guys and is not ready to admit why, so he seeks to determine an intermediate place where he can assign himself. A place of sufficient social legitimacy to serve as a temporary rest stop in his fearful journey to learn who he is. A place where he can have his gradual sexual attraction towards girls without being looked down upon, at least not by the girls on this forum who may not notice that it is the boys at the center of his concern. He's not messed up. But somehow he felt cornered to come up with something and it's not necessary.

    It is not difficult to understand that many people prefer emotional connection to precede sexual intimacy. Many others don’t require it, as we all know, but many people do. Sonofzeal indicates he experiences gradual sexual attraction, based more on emotional connection than physical appearance. If he’s honest, he gets sexual thoughts for guys. He likely has separated the idea of sexual thoughts as not being a part of overt sexual reaction, to allow him to invent a word from which to justify himself as existing someplace not obviously straight but certainly not gay. I wish I had a dollar for every closeted homosexual back in the day who used such mental gymnastics to get by. I’m not downing these guys. I’ve walked among them. I am not picking on homosexuality.

    All that is not even my point. So why am I picking on sonofzeal? Well, I’m just trying to explain how the origin of a term can be so unceremonious and maybe insincere. Then, must every set of circumstances in the human experience have a word for it? Is this term of his really necessary? It could have been forgotten and that would have been the end of it. I’ve noticed what has happened to the term since 2006.

    A number of other people have built up "demisexual" into a thing. Saying he coined the word. That’s what you say when a word has been seen for its potential and is on its way to sainthood.

    Back to dictionary.com:

    Demisexual: sexual attraction is not formed unless a strong emotional bond is formed first.

    Notice the above definition disallows for the gradual nature of sonofzeal yet it was he who coined the term. A strong and emotional bond now must happen first. Who decided that?

    We now have an entire website devoted to explaining demisexuality, now deemed a sexual orientation, and explained in six languages:

    Demisexuality is a sexual orientation in which someone feels sexual attraction only to people with whom they have an emotional bond. Most demisexuals feel sexual attraction rarely compared to the general population, and some have little to no interest in sexual activity. Keep reading to understand more about this orientation.

    What is Demisexuality? – Demisexuality Resource Center
    As you read the page, you will begin to see how the feelings of people that have been present for generations and which have always been easily understood in 10 words or less have been amplified into a structure that must now be explained in complicated detail to a larger outside world.

    It makes you think it is a special quality about a person that probably can only be seen under black light. A quality that everyday people cannot understand unless it is explained to them.

    Hogwash.

    We are expected to forget that anybody can understand emotional connection as prerequisite. We are expected to forget that millions of people have felt this way, can feel this way, can slip in and out of feeling this way, and have probably done so since the dawn of mankind. We are expected to forget that this is not a complicated notion, one that is always available to all, but to accept it as one that must be explained by an educated elite.

    And, once this self-appointed elite have convinced us of this, that it is something foreign to all of us until explained, as something that has a moat of misunderstanding existing between us and them, something then that allows them a superior position in its authentication, then they will move forward to decide who is and who isn’t this thing, as a way to exert a measure of political power and social influence. The creation of victim status from nothing. All started because of a comment posted in 2006 by a closeted gay guy who was testing to see if his manufactured pressure release valve would not be detected as one.

    I don't see the word "demisexual" thrown around much at all, but borrow from this example. Extrapolate from what I am offering here, the next time some self-appointed elite condescends to belittle you for not understanding what transgenderism is. Ah, another phony structure for an analysis, some other day.

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    Re: Demisexuality. An example of the creation of potential victim status.

    All those new terms are ridiculous. Pansexual, an attraction to dish pans? It just means you are attracted to anyone, but wait, isn't that bisexuality? Isn't demisexual really just the standard where most people like to know something about and feel a connection with the person they are going to have sex with?

    Sapiosexual, turned on by intelligence. A term often used by the dumbest of the dumb.

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    Re: Demisexuality. An example of the creation of potential victim status.

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    All those new terms are ridiculous. Pansexual, an attraction to dish pans? It just means you are attracted to anyone, but wait, isn't that bisexuality? Isn't demisexual really just the standard where most people like to know something about and feel a connection with the person they are going to have sex with?

    Sapiosexual, turned on by intelligence. A term often used by the dumbest of the dumb.
    It's a way of saying that 'I won't treat men by their physical attributes'. Which is a lie.

    What happened to two people meeting, sharing sometime together and having sex?
    The SJW's and their ilk are anti-sexual. I suspect they actually hate sex and people being generally happy.

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    Re: Demisexuality. An example of the creation of potential victim status.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    It's a way of saying that 'I won't treat men by their physical attributes'. Which is a lie.

    What happened to two people meeting, sharing sometime together and having sex?
    The SJW's and their ilk are anti-sexual. I suspect they actually hate sex and people being generally happy.
    It is funny how a Sapiosexual will still be attracted to a good looking person.

    To me the SJW's just want to re brand everything to make it look like they came up with it. We see it a fair bit, some non white community will be strict with their children and believe in marriage etc and the SJW's will be like "OH that is so amazing" the problem of course being that White people used to have that too. It was destroyed by the SJW's.

    SJW's are anti sex and anti romance, anti gender, race, culture. They won't be happy until everyone is a beige, genderless, asexual blob. They hate intelligence too.

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    Re: Demisexuality. An example of the creation of potential victim status.

    It is funny how a Sapiosexual will still be attracted to a good looking person.
    I am attracted to intelligent woman, more so than their looks. I used to be ONLY attracted to looks.
    Intelligence is sexy.

    SJW's are anti sex and anti romance, anti gender, race, culture. They won't be happy until everyone is a beige, genderless, asexual blob. They hate intelligence too.
    Yea, sounds about right. They hate anything that is 'rooted' or has history/culture.

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    Re: Demisexuality. An example of the creation of potential victim status.

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I am attracted to intelligent woman, more so than their looks. I used to be ONLY attracted to looks.
    Intelligence is sexy.



    Yea, sounds about right. They hate anything that is 'rooted' or has history/culture.
    It is sexy I do agree. Being well spoken, feminine, having some sense of poise. It is more than just looking good.


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