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    What makes a man a man?

    Hey there,

    With today's many misconceptions about what makes a man a man I'm curious as to how this forum regards what constitues a "real man". Imho nowadays a "real man" is often expressed as something equal to being a "good man" (read: a good person), i.e. a morally upstanding PERSON (because being a good person is not correlated to being good at being a man, it is androgynous), rather than what makes a man good at being a man.

    In my opinion, there are several things that makes a man good at being a man:
    -Physical and mental strength
    -Boldness and courage
    -Stoicism, emotional control, always keeping your cool
    -IDGAF attitude
    -Loyalty and honour (only within the confines of your "squad" or social circle, i.e. your closest 2-15 male friends). Society on a large scale has shunned the morally upstanding man and rewards Machiavellians and Narcissists.
    -Mastery: Being a master of one or several arts, crafts or skills.
    -Masculinity/testosterone to the max
    -"Having an edge", being adventerous, outgoing, looking out for your passion/mission in life

    That's what I could come up with so far, but I'm very interested in your opinions.
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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Don't care. I'm just not interested in being a Real Man™, no matter who is proposing a definition of manhood that I'm supposed to live up to.

    I'm happy at "functioning adult". It's My Own Way, and I'm Going it.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Real men have the ability to say: "No!", tend to be independent and showing the "route" to walk.

    The opposite is living like a conditioned dog and waiting for an ok for every small decision. These type of beings are living the life agenda of others.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    If you have a penis you are a man (excluding rare cases like hermaphroditism), it's all, a man don't have to be manly or a gentleman, or strong or anything else, a man can be anything, it's something personal, "a real man" is only a way to shame us and make us follow the rules and be like the goverment or the women want us to be, if something a real men is all about guts, honor and responsability.
    My english is not the best, sorry if i made some mystake or sound rude.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by AxFa View Post
    ... if something a real men is all about guts, honor and responsibility.
    Damn right! Forget the rest of the nonsense - these three things are what 99.99% of teh wimminz will never have.

    I'm finding that, for guys aged 30 and below, in the great majority of cases, the concept of 'honor' is becoming unknown.
    A gun-toting, weed-smoking, gray-bearded redneck with a Masters - old and dangerous.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Don't care. I'm just not interested in being a Real Man™, no matter who is proposing a definition of manhood that I'm supposed to live up to.

    I'm happy at "functioning adult". It's My Own Way, and I'm Going it.
    This reminds me of a quote I stumbled upon that I really liked:

    How can you say my life is not a success? Have I not for more than sixty years got enough to eat and escaped being eaten?
    —Logan Pearsall Smith, Last Words, 1933
    To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize. —Voltaire

    How can you say my life is not a success? Have I not for more than sixty years got enough to eat and escaped being eaten? —Logan Pearsall Smith, Last Words, 1933

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    A real man couldnt give a fuck about such things. No external validation is required.
    I refuse to be a part of the Three Ring Circus: Engagement ring. Wedding ring. Suffer ring.

    You can't be king of the world if you're slave to the vag.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Xy chromosomes
    Penis and testicles

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chukhed View Post
    A real man couldnt give a fuck about such things. No external validation is required.
    For sure. Maybe I should close in on the purpose of the thread. As others stated already, if we leave the definition of what makes a man a man to others, especially wymyn, it becomes something grotesque. "Manning up" is now used to describe becoming a beta provider for a post-wall cc riding whore. That has nothing to do with being a man. Coming of age movies nowadays have only one focus: Some dumb teenagers trying to get laid. As if there was nothing else that would provide (much more) value to one's life than scoring some pussy.

    "Don't care. I'm just not interested in being a Real Man™, no matter who is proposing a definition of manhood that I'm supposed to live up to.

    I'm happy at "functioning adult". It's My Own Way, and I'm Going it."

    First of all, by not caring about what others expect of you, you're already behaving manly :P . Second of all, if this is your definition of manhood, it's just as valid as any other. I'm just curious what kind of diverse opinions there are about this topic. Personally I have always felt like something was missing. Nowadays I know it was masculinity. I had become effeminate. Now I'm in the process of curing this cancer. Not for society. Not for wymyn's expectations. Only for myself, to make myself content.
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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    what makes a man a man?

    a complex sequence of biological events post coitus

    the rest is no one else's business

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    I have heard various kinds of women that say they want men "to be men"... okay, but WHAT does that entail??
    do they want us to go back to what they hated us for in the first place? or do they want us to become something that they refuse to share with us???
    from what we got now... we may as well be shooting in the dark... and I got better things to do than waste ammo...
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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I have heard various kinds of women that say they want men "to be men"... okay, but WHAT does that entail??
    do they want us to go back to what they hated us for in the first place? or do they want us to become something that they refuse to share with us???
    from what we got now... we may as well be shooting in the dark... and I got better things to do than waste ammo...
    I don't even know or care anymore. I'd rather just "be myself" and not attract any attention, instead of trying to put on my fake mask that I used to do for social situations in the past.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    A real man sees that there isn't a description available that could encompass the good he could accomplish and doesn't try to find one.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by John Deer View Post
    A real man sees that there isn't a description available that could encompass the good he could accomplish and doesn't try to find one.
    well.. I guess that's better than having nothing but un-testable ideas and obsolete stereotypes....
    Last edited by Eiji; November 9, 2015 at 9:20 PM.
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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    What makes a man a man?

    He does. It's about self-definition. He has his own beliefs and values that do not need validation from mainstream culture. It's about his individual autonomy. MGTOW is freedom.
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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    As a Christian, what being a man for me is simply;

    Micah 6:8 says, “He has told you, O man, what is good; and what does the Lord require of you but to do justice, to love kindness, and to walk humbly with your God?

    But on a personal note perhaps, if you are not a Christian;

    Being a martial artist, I am particularly drawn to the culture of bushido or the warrior way of the samurai. I prefer eastern warrior codes compared to the chivalric codes because in the east, male and female gender roles were very clear and strictly enforced and as a result, relationships are stable and values are enforced. Which leads to a stable life and governance for the country as a whole. But I digress.

    One of the things that define samurai is service. To be a samurai is to serve, and it can be seen in this phrase;

    'death is lighter than a feather, but duty is heavier than a mountain.'

    Basically, being a man is about one's duty.

    Choosing a cause, or lord to serve and serve to the end. Regardless of what others say or debate. The worth of a man, or samurai, is seen then not in his deeds, but who his deeds serve? Is one serving a worthy lord? Or an unworthy master. Translate this to the thread and one could say that;

    Being a man is serving one's duty to the end. Duty is owed to a cause or lord, and the worth of a man is defined by what cause he strives for, or who he chooses as his lord. Would you choose for your lord the pussy? Or would you choose the way of self-betterment and enlightenment as your lord?

    All in all. Who you serve is what defines you as a man. Serve a woman, become a woman. Serve a man, become a man. Serve God, become God. Serve the way, become the way.

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    I have heard various kinds of women that say they want men "to be men"... okay, but WHAT does that entail??
    do they want us to go back to what they hated us for in the first place? or do they want us to become something that they refuse to share with us???
    from what we got now... we may as well be shooting in the dark... and I got better things to do than waste ammo...
    They want us to be their good little unquestioning sychophantic toadies. Simply put, I copied this because it was too good: A "real man" is an insecure man that does what he is told when his masculinity is questioned. Any other terms they throw out like "good man" and "women civilize men" are all along this same bent.
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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    A real man is John Wayne, or Chuck Norris, James Bond, mere actors, fantasies. If your looking for real, think of things like sickness and death, physical pain, other than that i'd say there's no such thing as real.

    Btw what's a real woman? it's an insult that's what, but for some reason it's ok to accuse a man of not being "real" for just about any reason when you want to sling mud at him

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ballista_GTOW View Post
    They want us to be their good little unquestioning sychophantic toadies. Simply put, I copied this because it was too good: A "real man" is an insecure man that does what he is told when his masculinity is questioned. Any other terms they throw out like "good man" and "women civilize men" are all along this same bent.
    Well- if you look closely at that Prager Uni footage - it was Harley rockbanddrummer being forced into the suit. Just like Esther Vilar said...

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    Re: What makes a man a man?

    Quote Originally Posted by do not disturb View Post
    A real man is John Wayne, or Chuck Norris, James Bond, mere actors, fantasies. If your looking for real, think of things like sickness and death, physical pain, other than that i'd say there's no such thing as real.

    Btw what's a real woman? it's an insult that's what, but for some reason it's ok to accuse a man of not being "real" for just about any reason when you want to sling mud at him
    Well yes, it's very ironic that feminists attack our "toxic masculinity", but when they try to shame us into doing something or into behaving in a certain way, they attack in a way that insinuates a lack of masculinity, that apparently should be a part of us after all.
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