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    You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    MGTOW is literally gender studies for men. You guys know that not every woman is a feminist right? Most of us aren't even feminists and against it as well. You are just like feminists generalizing all women and acting like it's biology with no proof.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Nope...we're not even close on our worst and lowest day.

    Here's some Trigglypuff proof for you.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    MGTOW is literally gender studies for men. You guys know that not every woman is a feminist right? Most of us aren't even feminists and against it as well. You are just like feminists generalizing all women and acting like it's biology with no proof.
    The funny thing is, I often see women saying the word "men" (or, as you wrote, "you people" and "guys") and have no problem with grouping them all together. But when men say "women", women claim unfair generalization.

    Sigh. Nothing changes under the sun. You have to learn to recognize the same linguistic flexibility from others that you enjoy in yourself.
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    Nope...we're not even close on our worst and lowest day.

    Here's some Trigglypuff proof for you.

    How about this guy? They look the same to me.

    http://i.imgur.com/drRpuje.png

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    MGTOW is literally gender studies for men. You guys know that not every woman is a feminist right? Most of us aren't even feminists and against it as well. You are just like feminists generalizing all women and acting like it's biology with no proof.
    Thank you for dropping by, Sara, and sharing with us your important opinion.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Sara, you only need to look at family court and criminal court to understand the difference. In reality, most men are not rapists or deadbeat dads. Feminists however have been very successful in their efforts to get men branded as such. To this day the rights of due process for men in such cases are continuing to erode.

    When non feminist women in aggregate join together and help the MRA community change the laws that are so unfairly biased against men, then perhaps your statement will have some weight. Unfortunately most women don't even see how unfair the system is until the are directly affected by it. Usually this is when unfair divorce settlements prevent them from seeing their grandchildren or perhaps they end up with a husband or boyfriend that is being legally tortured by his ex.

    Sadly "most women" don't give a damn and the laws are likely to stay just they way they are or erode even further. The only rational action a sane man can take in this environment is to disengage from women as much as possible. Their is simply too much at risk.

    Certain MGTOW are much more angry about this stuff than others. Usually this is because they have been newly awakened to reality by being raped by some court proceeding. These men usually calm down after the legal violence has ended. This anger phase is not the stable state.

    What is really offensive to you is not that MGTOW are just as hateful as feminists. It's that MGTOW are indifferent to women, and we all know that is much worse to the female ego. MGTOW no longer worship the golden uterus. Surely that means they must hate women right? That assessment is woefully inaccurate.

    If you want MGTOW to change, then go become an anti-feminist or join the men's rights movement and get "most women" to do the same. Work to make the legal environment truly equal. Until then you will find more men joining the ranks of MGTOW. Remember, men aren't as emotional as women. We are doing what is rational. Hate has very little to do with it. If you had half the empathy we are all told women have, you would be able to see the pain men are in and would actually care about it. Even if you as an individual do, it is fair for MGTOW to judge the female collective by the laws that have resulted from your collective actions.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    Nope...we're not even close on our worst and lowest day.

    Here's some Trigglypuff proof for you.

    That triggled me! Take your patriarchal cis-gendered heteronormative microaggressive thoughts somewhere else you misogynistic shitlord! /s
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Wish I could assign avatars to guests ... OG, that photo inspires a new avatar ...

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    You guys know that not every woman is a feminist right?
    Does not matter as long as there is an army of white knights and the armed forced of the state jumping into ones private lives as soon as the women I may be with feels "unhappy" or just hates me for ending a relationshit.

    And in honesty, divorces, women entering the workforce and feminism only showed men that they can take care of their own perfectly well without a woman.

    I do really complicated things in my job .. and women joke that men are unable to throw 5 ingredients into a pan in the right order ?

    No, after 4 decades of feminism men can cook, clean, iron their own shirts and understand even less what the women around them were always complaining about that hard "housework"

    Forget it, women kicked themselves into their collective butts with feminism and only showed us how horrible useless they all are.

    Except for bearing children (they suck at raising them) .. which, with ap. 3 billion people on the globe that would really like to come here is not a function that is needed much.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    MGTOW is literally gender studies for men. You guys know that not every woman is a feminist right? Most of us aren't even feminists and against it as well. You are just like feminists generalizing all women and acting like it's biology with no proof.
    "Not every woman is a feminist."

    Kinda true. But I would say feminists dictate what a woman should be like. And the feminist dictates that women should be as unfeminine and undesirable as possible. Men pursue women either to satisfy a sexual desire or because they are told they have to do so, at the expense of their life, money and energy. MGTOW is here to let other men know that, that for a mere 5 minutes of pleasure, a man must sacrifice the next 50 years of his life. The choice is still theirs.


    "Most of us aren't even feminists and against it as well."

    Doesn't matter, MGTOW's issue with women is the fact that pursuing you is not worth our time. Why dedicate years of our life to a person who is programmed genetically to pursue the alpha male, when most of us are considered Beta or Omega males at the most? MGTOW doesn't care if you're a feminist, because you being a feminist does not change the fact that a woman is; More trouble than they are worth, and can't be trusted.


    "Generalizing ... Acting like it's biology with no proof."

    We do generalize, but more so because it is a majority issue, like saying 'Tigers are dangerous. Some can be loving pets, but they are the exception." What feminists day is more akin to "Dogs are all dangerous because of one or two specific examples, caused by their abusive owners. Compared to the majority of dogs which are great pets and loving animals to their families."

    Is it biology? I'll say it is more sociology. But the same thing can be seen in the animal world, where alpha males are those who succeed in the wild.

    http://public.wsu.edu/~taflinge/socsex.html/ Richard F. Taflinger

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    http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html

    many of his female members are determined to meet only men who are tall, attractive, wealthy and well educated. They want the alpha males. ''Most of the professional women rarely give out 'yes' votes to men who aren't similarly successful,'' reports (Justin) Parfitt, who struggles to attract enough of these successful men to his speed-dating events. Sixty per cent of his members are female. Most are over 30.

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    I'm sure you can find more yourself, you seem quite capable


    "Literally, gender studies for men."

    More like amateur sociology. Or psychology. Question; Why is it that women or feminists are still so set on the term 'gender'? I thought you are equal to men and are all about equality? Why must you still distinguish between the genders? Do you think us better than you? Or otherwise? If so, is that equality?

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by LuckyAustrian View Post
    Does not matter as long as there is an army of white knights and the armed forced of the state jumping into ones private lives as soon as the women I may be with feels "unhappy" or just hates me for ending a relationshit.

    And in honesty, divorces, women entering the workforce and feminism only showed men that they can take care of their own perfectly well without a woman.

    I do really complicated things in my job .. and women joke that men are unable to throw 5 ingredients into a pan in the right order ?

    No, after 4 decades of feminism men can cook, clean, iron their own shirts and understand even less what the women around them were always complaining about that hard "housework"

    Forget it, women kicked themselves into their collective butts with feminism and only showed us how horrible useless they all are.

    Except for bearing children (they suck at raising them) .. which, with ap. 3 billion people on the globe that would really like to come here is not a function that is needed much.
    Housework is a fucking joke! Not only that but I find that both cooking and cleaning are very calming and meditative. Yes it can be a little bit like exercise as well if there's some really sticky shit on the floor but generally I'd much rather clean than do other kinds of work. But women, especially in middle and upper class households don't even fucking do that! Often times they give their kids to granny, kindergarten, school, daycare, an au-pair etc. Then they get a cleaning lady that cleans the house once a week (sloppily). Then they resort to ordering food, making (semi-)instant food, letting granny cook, getting the kids to clean the dishes etc. Basically they outsource a whole lot of shit. My mother would be the perfect show case for the entitled middle class housewife. And she wasn't even any good at being a mother. But man she's living the fucking dream. Hasn't held a steady job for nearly 3 decades now. Outsources her shit. Spends most of her time on her hobbies. Who wouldn't take that sweet fucking deal? That's why MGTOW say GTFO you fucking TRADCUCKS.

    On a side note I'll admit though that about 3 generations ago there were still women who knew what it was like to work hard, not acting like an entitled little princess and being content with what they have. One of my grandmas spent hours every day in her garden and she was in her eighties! She was also a great cook. My other grandma was essentially a WGTOW in that her husband left her and got a second family, but she wasn't lonely or bitter since she had my mom and her grandsons and tons of friends. She was the chief physician at the local hospital which is by no means a little thing. But those women don't exist anymore and even if they do the search would be too time consuming to be worth it.
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    No not feminist like in any way.

    Feminism is about power and control to extract the maximum resources out of men. Just look at what feminists advocate; other people money used for their benefit (OPM) in the form of "free" health care, maternity leave, special job and school quotas, family court, etc.

    Feminism is just Traditional Conservative (TRADCON) gender roles unleashed; no societal limits.

    What do we men want here? To be left alone and avoid the entire sordid mess.
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    I'm going to piggy back on what toolate is saying. To a woman, MGTOW IS taking away resources from women.

    They are solipsistic. To them, a mans resources are not his. They belong to some woman. By going MGTOW the man is taking resources away from that woman.

    It took me a long time to wrap my head around that one.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by sara View Post
    MGTOW is literally gender studies for men. You guys know that not every woman is a feminist right? Most of us aren't even feminists and against it as well. You are just like feminists generalizing all women and acting like it's biology with no proof.
    Sara,

    We absolutely do generalize that all women are the same.

    Now get out there and prove us wrong!

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    I find it funny how women sat back and watched without trying to stop it one bit when feminists call their grandfathers, fathers, husbands, brothers, Uncles, nephews, male cousins, boyfriends, male friends and literally every man that ever lived toxic and oppressive default rape monsters to this very day and when men get tired and walk away or God forbid, express their displeasure with how women view/treat men women just cant believe it. If you kick even a dog every day and scream at it and blame it for the shit you knocked over, that dog, that animal will either try to escape or try to bite you in defense. Men are just expected to just not react to the absolute misandry and vile treatment/laws that drive them to suicide in a lot of cases, having their children stolen, lives ruined, false accusations and outright entitlement coming at them from all sides? No. I noticed that women were not vocally anti feminist until men started to be vocal about it and they want to cry "you are just like feminists". If you truly gave a shit and if the women before you gave a single shit they and you would have spoken up sooner before the climate of today where men are angry and vocalize their anger freely. You are afraid. You want to either show how not like them you are, or shame men into silence by calling them just like feminists. Sorry, won't work.

    You western women stood on the beach as the feminist frigate was being constructed, cheering and clapping and shouting, passing out your white feathers and wearing your male tears t-shirts. When she was finished and christened S.S. Misandry, you happily and greedily got in your own little self absorbed dingy and pretended you were just going on a cruise to some beautiful island. All hands were on deck, even yours. You sneered at men even if only subconsciously and you gorged yourselves on the supplies the feminist army rationed to you. Now the ship is sinking and you either want men to save you or you want them to try and drown and mostly shame them for defending themselves. Fuck you and all the women who use the just like feminist argument. Enjoy Davy Jones' cock Ms. Not a feminist.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Pretty certain this post was troll bait. I'm always up for insightful connections between different subjects though sadly most guest posts are of the inflammatory or accusatory type.
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    Quote Originally Posted by Free and Clear View Post
    Pretty certain this post was troll bait. I'm always up for insightful connections between different subjects though sadly most guest posts are of the inflammatory or accusatory type.
    Indeed. Perhaps we should simply ignore their drivel, but I suppose that for the lurkers it is good to see that we don't resort to just dismissing Sara's "argument" as the ramblings of a "stupid cunt", but rather choose to actually address the post in different ways, none of which have anything to do with the OP's sex or opinion, but rather with the wrongfulness of the statement.
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    "Opposing Views" was intended, from the start, as a troll-hole. That said, we've had some interesting and thought-provoking threads in here ... consider those from Tarnished; s/he certainly gave me some worthwhile insights as to gender dysphoria and the struggle of feeling like a man's sense-of-self stuck in a woman's body.

    Besides, I think a lot of us have fun turning an "argument" like Sara's into a sieve.
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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    I'd like to point out that unlike Feminism, mgtow is only self critical. Members call each other on bullshit constantly, and fail to agree on nearly everything except a few basic premises. Such is to be expected when each man goes his own way, and not the way of another.

    Feminism is dogmatic, like a religion, and you must convert or be crushed. mgtow is a philosophy each man subscribes to in his own way, by his own choice. It demands the adherence of none.

    Lastly we don't 'act like its biology with no proof'. The proof is there. Mgtow academics like Stardusk, Marcus, Coltaine and others constantly offer evidence in sociological studies, historical data, zoological observations, etc ad nauseum. Just because it isn't the answer you want to hear, doesn't mean it isn't the right answer. #womanlogic.

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    Re: You people are EXACTLY like feminists

    You want to know the most importance difference?

    Nobody is ever going to lose their job for disagreeing with MGTOW.


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