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    Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    About 99.9% of the posts on this forum are about women. Why? Why are you so obsessed, if you're claiming to Go Your Own Way?

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Why are jews so obsessed with nazis? Holocaust this, holocaust that, it's like they are never going to just get over it already. Why are (shit, I dunno) anti-vaxxers obsessed with vaccines? If you have an anti-vax website, shouldn't everyone have moved beyond that by now?

    Guys here are obsessed with women because women are pretty much the #1 thing that fucks up a man's life. Many guys here, especially the ones with kids, are still living with the aftermath of having been with a woman. Years later. And if it isn't that, it's female family, female work colleagues. That's just how it is. Going Your Own Way is essentially about getting the fuck away from women, or at least minimising the carnage. So women, inevitably, are one of the main topics of this site.

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    If we were obsessed with women we would marry them. We are processing why women refuse to take responsibility for their actions. I think it would be happy news that we're talking about women at all. It's when we stop talking and withdraw completely from a dialogue such as this that our culture will see a truly broken pendulum.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    -because we want to.

    -because since all major medias and organizations are pro-women/anti-men nowadays, we must constantly spread rotten truths about women as compensation and reaction (actually I think that we should mock and spread more rotten truths about manginas too, but, whatever).

    But OK, I also think that some Mgtows should share Mgtow topic with other topics that are interesting and important for men.

    As I said before, a good example is the "Amazing Atheist". He mixes "atheism + anti-feminism", and this is an efficient way to spread truths about women and to spread another important/interesting topic for men.

    I think that we should have more "shared topics" like this: "workout + MGTOW" (like LuiMarco), "finances + MGTOW", "guns + MGTOW", "video games + MGTOW", etc...

    This way, women would be not the only focus in discussions. But since this is a generalist Mgtow forum, our focus is on women, and this is not a bad thing.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    About 99.9% of the posts on this forum are about women. Why? Why are you so obsessed, if you're claiming to Go Your Own Way?
    Actually a third of my posts are talking about going ghost, the other third is about self improvement. The final third is about women that try to stop me from going ghost and doing what I want to do.

    Like it or not, we as men still have to interact with women, but we provide a world view to navigate social interactions with men and women in a smart fashion instead of blindly walking through life as a drone.

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    -because we want to.

    -because since all major medias and organizations are pro-women/anti-men nowadays, we must constantly spread rotten truths about women as compensation and reaction (actually I think that we should mock and spread more rotten truths about manginas too, but, whatever).

    But OK, I also think that some Mgtows should share Mgtow topic with other topics that are interesting and important for men.

    As I said before, a good example is the "Amazing Atheist". He mixes "atheism + anti-feminism", and this is an efficient way to spread truths about women and to spread another important/interesting topic for men.

    I think that we should have more "shared topics" like this: "workout + MGTOW" (like LuiMarco), "finances + MGTOW", "guns + MGTOW", "video games + MGTOW", etc...

    This way, women would be not the only focus in discussions. But since this is a generalist Mgtow forum, our focus is on women, and this is not a bad thing.
    Vention does good videos talking about his home, garden, and fixing up his house in Washington. Not all MGTOW content is focused on women, but it is a starting point for a lot of men to understand how the world is constructed.

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    The first misconception is that we disengage from women entirely. Some MGTOW do that, but not all of them. So there's that.
    Second of all, whereas we accept certain teachings about female nature, we question things and try to see them in a different light. Even in a light that is more positive towards women - IF it is accurate (e.g. can a woman who has had a positive father figure in her life grow up to become a "good woman"/something close to a unicorn?)
    Thirdly, as has been said before, women make up at least half of the world's population. It's hard to dodge them completely unless you go completely off the grid/become a hermit. Whereas I sympathize with the "lone wolf" lifestyle, I do not seek to disengage from society entirely. I'd rather find efficient ways to minimize bullshit from both men and women and maximize my quality of life. In order to do that I need to understand the motivations of other people, the motivations of women are one such thing that is discussed here.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    The problem is not all those post about women, the real problem is the lack of post about MGTOW problems but not related to women (IMHO women are only 20-30% of the problem, and the real problems of MGTOW and MGTOW themes outside women are ignored in most posts).
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    About 99.9% of the posts on this forum are about women. Why? Why are you so obsessed, if you're claiming to Go Your Own Way?
    Women (and others) shouldn't assume that GYOW is an instant thing and that all discussion about women stops and that men just quietly disperse into the night, never again to mention women to each other. Likely many men do go hermit while we see only the men who talk online. Men talk about stuff. Some men more than others. Men learn what's been happening to themselves by listening and conversing with other men. Men want to assist other men. It takes a while to deprogram from a lifetime of brainwashing. Men learn a lot by hanging around and reading what other men say. To learn how others manage and managed. To learn improved ways of thinking about things. Men come and go from these discussions. Men themselves are ok with what forms this self-education takes, are ok with the differing rates of speed that men participate, and are ok with the knowledge that women are watching and criticizing.

    You are watching education in progress. You are watching the sharing of experiences. Much is for the benefit of lurkers. Don't overlook the lurkers in your assessment. Think harder about this.

    These things I write should be obvious to self-thinking women. Women certainly are quite ok when women manifest as they process. Yet, they don't understand when men do it. To these women I ask, why be sexist in your understanding, ladies, except that it comforts you to do so? Why the double-standard? Women can get ok with MGTOW if they chose to. I think a major perception problem of women is that they gravitate to primal descriptions too easily. Women too often conclude that men hate women. Men are not hating women, certainly not like women hate men. Mostly, men don't trust women anymore. Women hate men, that is the word they use, but men don't trust women. Women see it as hate from men because they view it through their primal vocabularies. That's on women. If I were a woman, I would skip over your superficial question and focus instead on why it would be reasonable for sane men to GTOW. Your answers lie there. But, then, this level of depth disallows women of self-comforting viewpoints, such as the one you embedded into your question.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Indeed it is a process and a continued learning of said processes. Also, what you realize that the world is dynamic and changing constantly, so being able to learn about new technololgies and new social interactions and how it impacts men is very important. For example, tinder and what effect it has on relationship dynamics between men and women, and how that influences money, time, and other resources.

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Maybe because this is a place where we can discuss taboo topics without being instantly shut down.

    Maybe.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaltySpoon View Post
    Maybe because this is a place where we can discuss taboo topics without being instantly shut down.

    Maybe.
    Exactly. This should satisfy OP's question.

    Criticizing women to ANY extent in public can have dire consequences. Meanwhile women are allowed to say literally anything they want about men. ANYTHING. They can say all men are rapists, murderers, pedophiles, they can say men should be castrated or executed, they can spread rumors about men they know, sabotage their careers, marriages, and lives, and there are no consequences for doing any of this. The narrative says that women have been oppressed since the dawn of time, therefore anything they do against men is justified because of the patriarchy.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    About 99.9% of the posts on this forum are about women. Why? Why are you so obsessed, if you're claiming to Go Your Own Way?
    You're saying that only one in a thousand posts here is not about women?

    I have a question for you: Have you READ a thousand posts here? ... A hundred? Or even a dozen?

    Or, as I think is far more likely, are you simply trying to throw shame at us, like a monkey flinging turds, and projecting your own obsessive anger and rage at anyone whose beliefs don't agree with yours?

    Why are YOU so obsessed with us?
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    Ah, yes. The whole boil something down into polar absolutes tactic, so as to give a flimsy argument artificial validity.

    First, "Going" is in the present, as in "not all the way gone," so being that we're all going our own way, it is natural that we will talk about the centerpiece(women) of what influenced us to embark on such a journey. Women were the jumping off point for this journey, so it doesn't take any level of genius to understand why they would be a common topic. Instead of making snide comments about our approach, you could use some new schools of thought yourself if you see our form of alleged "obsession" with women as needing critique.

    What about insecure roid ragers who shave their chests and go to the gym every day, all so they can buy a shirt two sizes too small, glob on a mound of hair product, and go to the club to spend hundreds of dollars on drinks for women, and spend almost every night doing the same song-and-dance of trying to get laid? Why does their obsession not bother you?

    What about the guy who has to work himself to death because he has multiple baby's mamas pilfering his entire paychecks and his dignity away? Does the fact that this guy continues to pursue women after being burned so many times not strike you as a concerning form of obsession?

    What about the guy who sells out his lifelong friends, his hobbies, and the things that gave his life purpose just because his wife demands it? What about the fact that society refers to this as "manning up?" Is this not a form of obsession that you think needs criticism?

    What about the fact that so many guys can't even carry on a conversation with other people when an attractive woman is in the room? What about the fact that they will interrupt someone making an important point and stare at a woman walking by to the point of almost slobbering? Is this not a form of obsession that you're concerned with?

    The fact is, the world is obsessed with women. I think instead of asking us questions, you need to look inward and ask yourself why you feel compelled to passively-aggressively attack the way we deal with the world's obsession, instead of attacking people who are being lapdogs for a counterproductive estrogen addiction that plagues society. We're trying to make sense of and adopt productive strategies to counteract this narrative, while the rest of the world is being harmed by a blind faith approach. Basically, you need to reassess your thinking and ask yourself why you feel so compelled to be an obedient shill by upholding the status-quo, instead of questioning those who just blindly go along with the world's whims and wishes?
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    You guy's aren't following the script!

    No placating?
    No apologies?

    OMG!

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    you guy's aren't following the script!

    No placating?
    No apologies?

    Omg!
    that's full-on neggggleeeectttttt raaaaaappppeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    and ppl think I am in need of more medication when I say I'm trying to find a cure for sexuality itself......................
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Quote Originally Posted by BrentusBeast View Post
    Ah, yes. The whole boil something down into polar absolutes tactic, so as to give a flimsy argument artificial validity.

    First, "Going" is in the present, as in "not all the way gone," so being that we're all going our own way, it is natural that we will talk about the centerpiece(women) of what influenced us to embark on such a journey. Women were the jumping off point for this journey, so it doesn't take any level of genius to understand why they would be a common topic. Instead of making snide comments about our approach, you could use some new schools of thought yourself if you see our form of alleged "obsession" with women as needing critique.

    What about insecure roid ragers who shave their chests and go to the gym every day, all so they can buy a shirt two sizes too small, glob on a mound of hair product, and go to the club to spend hundreds of dollars on drinks for women, and spend almost every night doing the same song-and-dance of trying to get laid? Why does their obsession not bother you?

    What about the guy who has to work himself to death because he has multiple baby's mamas pilfering his entire paychecks and his dignity away? Does the fact that this guy continues to pursue women after being burned so many times not strike you as a concerning form of obsession?

    What about the guy who sells out his lifelong friends, his hobbies, and the things that gave his life purpose just because his wife demands it? What about the fact that society refers to this as "manning up?" Is this not a form of obsession that you think needs criticism?

    What about the fact that so many guys can't even carry on a conversation with other people when an attractive woman is in the room? What about the fact that they will interrupt someone making an important point and stare at a woman walking by to the point of almost slobbering? Is this not a form of obsession that you're concerned with?

    The fact is, the world is obsessed with women. I think instead of asking us questions, you need to look inward and ask yourself why you feel compelled to passively-aggressively attack the way we deal with the world's obsession, instead of attacking people who are being lapdogs for a counterproductive estrogen addiction that plagues society. We're trying to make sense of and adopt productive strategies to counteract this narrative, while the rest of the world is being harmed by a blind faith approach. Basically, you need to reassess your thinking and ask yourself why you feel so compelled to be an obedient shill by upholding the status-quo, instead of questioning those who just blindly go along with the world's whims and wishes?
    I think this is what is missed often. How dangerous white knights are and the state that enables all of this to happen under their watch. Women simply reap the benefits of male white knights and the state siding with them for a variety of resources.

    It is not the hatred of women..it is the hatred of the game...you know the saying don't hate the player hate the game? The entire system is set up for men to be the fall guy. MGTOW is about not even bothering to play the game as that is the "winning move".

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Quote Originally Posted by Brit View Post
    So you "answer" my question with more obsessive rants about women. Interesting ....
    Why didn't you bother reading the responses to your answer. You have chosen to shut down your mind and heart instead...interesting.

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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

    Actually your question was answered. The problem is you don't like the answer.

    I hope you come back for more discussion Brit.
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    Re: Why are you all SO obsessed with women?

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