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    The Manipulated Man

    Interesting book. I think I'll give my son a copy to read, but keep it hidden from my husband!

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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Why? If it opens his eyes you might have the chance to be with a free man who isn't manipulated.

    Wouldn't that be a good thing?
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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Your son will fall for the trap, societal pressure is strong, he'll go blue pill for sure, don't hold back if you want to save his ass then also show him the MGTOW truth. The book is just the intro..

    Sounds like your husband needs to be informed also, this is a warning to all the Men thinking about having children, you have just basically said what we all knew anyway, he's just an uninformed kept in the dark walking ATM.

    Some day a girl will come along and the cycle will repeat and your Son will be in the exact same position, he'll be the next sucker.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    Why? If it opens his eyes you might have the chance to be with a free man who isn't manipulated.

    Wouldn't that be a good thing?
    She doesn't want him to have a chance to be free. he might wake up reading the book. Moreover I'm having a hard time to understand why some woman would come over here to inform us that she intends to make her son read a book.
    Why are you here and what do you expect to achieve by informing us about your intentions?
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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    I know. It's a strange one, but I see no malicious intent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    I know. It's a strange one, but I see no malicious intent.
    Me neither Thomas. I was just wondering what is the purpose of the OP. Maybe our unregistered female guest can shed some light on the purpose of her post. I'm just trying to understand.
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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Am not familiar with the book, but it sound's like she want's more for her son than she's willing to give her husband.
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    Hello frog

    the book is written by Esther Vilar and it shed some light on how men are manipulated by women without them even being aware of it. It is definitely worth a read. If you do a youtube search you will get some results of Esther Vilar. When she wrote the book in the early seventies I was still a kid. I've read it in the late nineties and it was actually a good read.

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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    You can read it here:

    http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/te...ulated_man.pdf

    Like I said, it's very interesting, although somewhat inaccurate in places. I think she's mellowed a bit since she originally wrote it back in the 1970s.

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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Am not familiar with the book, but it sound's like she want's more for her son than she's willing to give her husband.
    Which would be logical. Her son is an extension of herself. Her husband, just a tool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thomas Covenant View Post
    Which would be logical. Her son is an extension of herself. Her husband, just a tool.
    There's no argueing with logic, that might be the reason why she wants her son to read the book, meanwhile her husband should not. But that are my assumptions. I would really like to know why she came here announcing her intentions. It's pure curiosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Am not familiar with the book, but it sound's like she want's more for her son than she's willing to give her husband.
    You can find some excerpts from this book and some other "Red Pill" books here:

    http://www.goingyourownway.com/mgtow...light=excerpts
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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Giving this book to your son but not your husband will cause resentment with your son down the line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    Giving this book to your son but not your husband will cause resentment with your son down the line.
    Hubby might not be overly pleased either, should he find out.

    Is the son's life going to be better after reading this? Might help, but it'll take more than one self help book to keep a young kid's ship off the rock's.
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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    This thread reminds me of one of the briefing videos from the game "Thief 2" (I forget which mission this is from..)

    To manipulate a man is a careful project.. too light a hand and he follows his own whim. Too heavy a hand and he will turn on you. -- Chronicle of the Metal Age
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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Not surprised in the slightest by OP. Mothers give their sons the benefit of the doubt - but husbands are alien to them. Husbands are really just comic buffoons who happen to live with women - what little emotional connection can be had is severed on a daily basis. Sons can be misogynistic douchebags, but they're still sons.

    (Didn't see that Thomas Covenant basically covered the same point, see his post.)

    The fact that OP considers giving the book to her son but not to her husband is fucking hilarious to me. Go figure. Sounds like something she would tell her girlfriends at the bar while hitting on some delectable Chad Thundercocks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
    You can read it here:

    http://www.naturalthinker.net/trl/te...ulated_man.pdf

    Like I said, it's very interesting, although somewhat inaccurate in places. I think she's mellowed a bit since she originally wrote it back in the 1970s.
    Dear Mrs. Guest

    bear in mind that 40 years have passed since she wrote it and a lot has changed since than and IMO not for the better. Now I'm renewing my question why did you come here and inform us about your intentions to make you son read the book meanwhile you prefer to keep your husband in the dark?
    There must be a reason for your action and I would really love to know.

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    Re: The Manipulated Man

    Thanks NBM, I did about half of it last night. Might appear tame now, but they was brave word's for 40 years ago. Sad to report, hardly anyone back then would have considered it good advice. Would a went right over my head.

    I think poor old Mrs. unregistered also wonder's, and is sorry she ever heard of us or Esther Vilar. we've chased off another one. So long, missus unregistered.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Natural Born MGTOW View Post
    Dear Mrs. Guest

    bear in mind that 40 years have passed since she wrote it and a lot has changed since than and IMO not for the better. Now I'm renewing my question why did you come here and inform us about your intentions to make you son read the book meanwhile you prefer to keep your husband in the dark?
    There must be a reason for your action and I would really love to know.

    Perhaps she wants to say: "You are right MGTOW, we women in general do not give a fuck about well being of our husbands. We put ourselves and our children first and do not care if our men are happy or not!"
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