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    International Feminism

    I am a man and mgtow.

    Feminism is now a worldwide phenomena, that exists all over the world to a degree. Its an ancient dream of the Devil, and most women.

    The power, wealth and status is what women wanted.
    They thought of men as some type of God where all their problems came from, and could be solved from. They thought of men, as their enemy. An enemy, who should be conquered and used. So they gradually acuired more and more power through centuries.

    But what they have got versus, what they have lost, is nothing. They have lost their honour and dignity. New generations of men across the world have much lower value for females in their minds, than former generations.

    And as I said in my former post, I put the main blame, on stupid evil backstabbing men, from among men. Women couldnt make it themselves.

    The situation of the world now is beyond belief. The corruption and immorality is unspeakable. When things fall apart in spritual world, they will fall apart in physical world too later on.

    Things are falling apart and I have no hope that things will get better.
    There will be massive destruction. Watch out!

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    I do not see massive destruction but the decline started decades ago when wage/salary growth was replaced with credit cards as that was a titanic shift in human population ability to self sustain personal wealth generation. Credit cards are a good tool if you know how to leverage them but more often than not they are inferior than saving money, investing, and earning a raise for your wage or salary.

    Credit cards along with consumerism and this is why .gov panders to women now. In a desperate attempt to keep the house of cards going they keep pushing spending for economic growth.

    Maybe you are right that there will be a massive destruction of the financial system.

    But think it will be a tiny burp instead of a big bang. By then most will know it is coming.

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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by 12345 View Post
    And as I said in my former post, I put the main blame, on stupid evil backstabbing men, from among men. Women couldnt make it themselves.
    I'm not sure why you started a new thread to continue the point of your other thread. You never posted there a second time. This may work against you.

    Where are these men of which you speak? Only in high echelons of power? Or up and down the economic scale? Are they a shadowy few? Are they you and me? Can you expand on this?
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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I do not see massive destruction but the decline started decades ago when wage/salary growth was replaced with credit cards as that was a titanic shift in human population ability to self sustain personal wealth generation. Credit cards are a good tool if you know how to leverage them but more often than not they are inferior than saving money, investing, and earning a raise for your wage or salary.

    Credit cards along with consumerism and this is why .gov panders to women now. In a desperate attempt to keep the house of cards going they keep pushing spending for economic growth.

    Maybe you are right that there will be a massive destruction of the financial system.

    But think it will be a tiny burp instead of a big bang. By then most will know it is coming.
    We'll see. The likes of Soros are now predicting the collapse of the EU. That certainly would be a game changer. I'm not certain of anything anymore. Yes it is clear we're in a decline, both economically and in terms of virtue, but will the decline end with a bang or a whimper? Or might it even be possible to stop it via technology, e.g. automation?
    As they say "may you live in interesting times" ... well, times are certainly interesting, aren't they? Are they great though? 10-15 years ago I'd certainly have said so. Nowadays I ain't so sure.

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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    We'll see. The likes of Soros are now predicting the collapse of the EU. That certainly would be a game changer. I'm not certain of anything anymore. Yes it is clear we're in a decline, both economically and in terms of virtue, but will the decline end with a bang or a whimper? Or might it even be possible to stop it via technology, e.g. automation?
    As they say "may you live in interesting times" ... well, times are certainly interesting, aren't they? Are they great though? 10-15 years ago I'd certainly have said so. Nowadays I ain't so sure.
    I think the end of the EU will be a good thing. Decline in itself is not a bad thing either as it will shift things back to where they should have been in the first place. Many immigrants will leave too as they were only in our lands for the money.

    I think it will be a bang but that won't be the end either. It will be the start of something better.

    And why does the OP keep posting in opposing views if they claim they are MGTOW?

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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by Morlock View Post
    I think the end of the EU will be a good thing. Decline in itself is not a bad thing either as it will shift things back to where they should have been in the first place. Many immigrants will leave too as they were only in our lands for the money.

    I think it will be a bang but that won't be the end either. It will be the start of something better.

    And why does the OP keep posting in opposing views if they claim they are MGTOW?
    I'm thinking some blogger or "journalist" just trying to "fit in" without actually walking the walk.
    Or a Tradcuck who agrees with some MGTOW points but isn't actually MGTOW. Sure doesn't sound like one to me. You know those "forced" MGTOW because M'LADY isn't "feminine anymore" or too slooty or whatever.

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    Re: International Feminism

    I'm guessing someone dipping their toes in the waters and seeing what us MGTOW are all about. Identifying/agreeing in order to placate those you interact with - which is currently a social trend. Not really relevant - it's not required here. Honesty is valued more then political correctness among us MGTOW. Brutal honesty.

    Not sure what a point is being made here 'though. "Feminism is wrecking society"? Yea, that's no news to us. "Collapse/fall of rome v2.0 on the horizon?" Yea, no news there either. What if any is your opposing point you would like to discuss? That's what this section of the forum is about.
    Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    We'll see. The likes of Soros are now predicting the collapse of the EU. That certainly would be a game changer. I'm not certain of anything anymore. Yes it is clear we're in a decline, both economically and in terms of virtue, but will the decline end with a bang or a whimper? Or might it even be possible to stop it via technology, e.g. automation?
    As they say "may you live in interesting times" ... well, times are certainly interesting, aren't they? Are they great though? 10-15 years ago I'd certainly have said so. Nowadays I ain't so sure.
    Soros wants the EU to collapse now because the political winds are shifting against him. But any logical person knows that the original intent of EU was economic cooperation so while the EU may be scaled back it will still remain an economic union. Soros was leading the charge to make the EU a political entity along with other globalist, neocons/neoliberals. This was because they wanted to leverage EU economic might to translate that to military might from that political entity. With military might to exert a sphere of influence on the Middle East and Africa as they tried to do in Syria and Libya. But as we all know those attempts failed in Syria and Libya.

    But Soros plan fell apart because for one the Russians have come back stronger than many anticipated. And the Chinese are aggressively investing in Africa to exert a sphere of influence. Factor in the nationalist/populism sweeping Europe and EU is no longer a tool the globalists can rely on.

    What the globalists wanted to do was mirror the distant past of European colonialism or even the Monroe Doctrine of the US.

    Soros can't destabilize a nation that rejects globalist goals or coalitions to exert political/military might to far away lands.

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    Re: International Feminism

    Identifying/agreeing in order to placate those you interact with
    Typical trollish behaviour. They agree with MGTOW to placate and then switch course half-way.
    The poster seems 'apocalyptic' which is another way of trying to show mgtow men to be irrational/unreasonable.

    When things fall apart in spritual world, they will fall apart in physical world too later on.
    Sounds like MWC/Free thinking trying to make a come back. He mentioned a few of such pseudo religious garbage.

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    Re: International Feminism

    Women are rotten, we men are duping ourselves, and the world is corrupt. You don't say? Mr. Guest, your a little late to the party, aren't you?
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: International Feminism

    Thank you for replying all. I was posting as guest, I randomly visit here and the only place I could post was here, its not oppsing view. You can change the name of the section to guests-posts.

    My first topic took a week to be published, so I added a second topic.

    This is my opinion:
    I said the mgtow community consists of, competitive members. You cant unite easily. Your community is a mourning and friendship community, to pass a boring weekend. You have no leadership, and you wont acheive anything. This community can easily be crushed and silenced. You wont even have your little online communities. So all prefer to be individual mgtows. Women all across the world have a sisterhood. You men cant get along even in your little mgtow community here. You have been crushed, but you still cant unite. And every member has its own definition of mgtow. This is a crappy community.

    Mgtow commuinity is like a library of books
    on failed lives, and the corruption of the system and women. No wonder many are lurkers and do not join. Its a library, not a community. All act individually. You acheive nothing. I am mgtow, but not part of these mgtow communities.


    You agree with what I say, but you still are paranoid and sensitive and criticise me.

    I am not late to the party, I didnt say it for the know-it-all people. There are lots of people who do not know these things...

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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by 12345 View Post
    My first topic took a week to be published, so I added a second topic.
    Unregistered posts in this sub-forum are moderated so expect delay in prioritization. I found your January 13 post in the hold bucket only a few weeks ago, decided to let it through today after allowing for my initial impression to subside plus prioritization. You have a depressing attitude in this second post and one that is completely unnecessary. You want MGTOW to be of identical mind but no way would I want to think like you for your attitude. One wonders what you hope to gain by criticizing fellow MGTOW. I almost did not let your post through for that reason. It only keeps you down. Like the grumpy old man down the street.

    So all prefer to be individual mgtows.

    All act individually.
    Well, yeah! Do you know what the acronym stands for? Hello?

    You acheive nothing.
    You don't know that. You're the grumpy old man down the street.

    I am mgtow, but not part of these mgtow communities.
    Perfectly fine. But, here you are, gloating with your individuality while criticizing others for theirs! Sheesh!

    You agree with what I say
    Actually, no. I don't. But, here you are, knocking at our door. Put aside your mis-perceptions and try getting along better. We've seen the other. When you think you are ready to contribute in a group environment in a healthy way, register and submit the proper Intro. Throwing rocks at us from across the street is no good. I may not let the next one through, please know. You can do better. Show us.
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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by 12345 View Post
    Thank you for replying all.




    Mgtow commuinity is like a library of books
    on failed lives, and the corruption of the system and women. No wonder many are lurkers and do not join. Its a library, not a community. All act individually. You acheive nothing. I am mgtow, but not part of these mgtow communities.


    You agree with what I say, but you still are paranoid and sensitive and criticise me.

    I am not late to the party, I didnt say it for the know-it-all people. There are lots of people who do not know these things...
    MGTOW's are corrupting the system, and women? Mr. Guest, that statement has no truth whatsoever in it. It's the plantation and the women who benefit from it that's rotten to the core, not a few lousy MGTOW's trying to keep from being robbed. You do yourself no favors even suggesting any of todays problems are our doing. Did we unfairly take any woman's kids away from her? Did we divorce rape anybody? I sure don't remember doing anything like that.

    Opposing views is here so people who cant join can speak up, however uninformed they may be. Like Mr. Guest here, he's a fine example.
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    Re: International Feminism

    "This community can easily be crushed and silenced". How many times have I heard or read that before? This is a worldwide community that uses many platforms. This is just one of them. We haven't had a world war in over 60 years. Maybe we're due for one sooner than we think.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    Re: International Feminism

    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Or a Tradcuck who agrees with some MGTOW points but isn't actually MGTOW. Sure doesn't sound like one to me. You know those "forced" MGTOW because M'LADY isn't "feminine anymore" or too slooty or whatever.
    I couldn't have said it better myself with words such as Muh LADY. I'm waiting for the two undercover tradcucks of the forum to duel in a joust in honor of "muh LADY!".

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    Re: International Feminism

    Some people are in denial of reality because they assume women can not make bad life choices.

    A lot of financial pain coming in the decades to come is because of poor financial decisions made by men and women. But far more blame will end up on women compared to men.

    College debt, credit card debt, consumerism run rampant, etc. all because this is what women asked for and what they fought to be liberated to do.

    Men on the other hand need to be wise and start investing, saving and paying down debt.

    The future belongs to the army ant that prepares for the coming financial winter. Hint, women are driving the western economies over a cliff.

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    Hello there

    I said the mgtow community consists of, competitive members.
    Most men are competitive by nature so I don't see it really as a problem.

    Mgtow commuinity is like a library of books on failed lives, and the corruption of the system and women.
    You couldn't be more wrong with your assessment IMHO. If being married or not having a family with kids means for you having failed in life then nobody can help you. Given the fact that you stated that you are MGTOW than you have failed in life as well. Correct me if I'm wrong. Yeah MGTOW has documented the corruption of the system and women ad nauseum and we keep going because there's an army of young men out there raised by single mothers that can profit from red pill knowledge. We are not forcing anybody to go MGTOW. Every man is taking that decision by himself.

    No wonder many are lurkers and do not join
    Well most lurkers do profit from the accumulated knowledge on this site. If it helps them to navigate their life better we have acomplished a goal. The goal is showing them a life without shackles of a lifelong indoctrination and a laid out path by society which they don't have to follow. MGTOW is not for everyone. And, as for the lurkers we have daily new members signing up. MGTOW is currently growing like a wildfire and it will keep growing. So if lurkers don't want to join I don't have a problem with that.


    Its a library, not a community
    Well, without a community this library would have never been put together. I feel being part of the MGTOW community and I decided some years ago to sign up and help raising awareness to other young men that's my only global MGTOW mission that I personally have. As for the rest they are all personal goals and achievements. Maybe you have another personal definition of community I'd like to hear it. Maybe my definition of community is wrong care to elaborate?

    All act individually.
    That's why this community is called MGTOW. We are all individually engaged in improving ourselves and sharing experiences. Is that to be considered bad?

    You acheive nothing
    Well I can't speak for others I'm speaking for myself I'm telling you . . . you couldn't be more wrong with your assumption. I don't regret anything in my life. I did what I did and I would do it again.
    My personal achievements are important to me and only to me. Once you stop needing external validation you do it for yourself and for no one else.

    As a community MGTOW does not want to change anything . . .
    we know that we can't change the world . . . but we can change ourselves and that's what MGTOW is all about.


    I am mgtow, but not part of these mgtow communities.
    OK, I think no one here has a problem with that You are living the MGTOW lifestyle without being part of a MGTOW community. I personally think there are millions of men living a MGTOW lifestyle without ever being aware that there is a community out there. They have never heard about MGTOW, probably never will and nonentheless they are living a MGTOW lifestyle on an unconscious level.
    So, what is the point of your statement?

    You agree with what I say
    No! I don't agree at all, with what you said so far. MGTOW is an individual lifestyle and as far as I can tell there is no reluctant MGTOW in the ranks of our active members here on the forum.

    IMO there are a lot of so called "reluctant MGTOW" in our ranks as the whole MGTOW community is concerned. People are adopting a MGTOW lifestyle because it's gotten very bad out there if you would be part of the community you would really know how bad it really is. You should watch the documentary Divorce corp and you will know one reason why MGTOW exist and this only one of the many reasons. I guess if the bad divorce laws would get fixed and changed MGTOW numbers will collapse and only the real MGTOW will still follow the philosophy. They are the ones who have chosen and embraced the MGTOW life they have not been forced by the system . . . they have chosen. There is a big difference.

    Your opening post sounds really strange to me, especially how you worded it. I would expect a female to write an opening post like this but not a male.
    Maybe I'm wrong . . . who knows?
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    Re: International Feminism

    It sounds to me like 12345 is one ANGRY hamster!

    That throws the whole MGTOW community being "weak and ineffectual" fantasy of yours out the window, broken glass included -- doesn't it?, Miss 12345?!

    If MGTOW were SO LAME, you would not even devote your time towards making a thread about it!

    Well, since you're the one who broke the glass outta anger--here's the broom and dustpan.

    If we were all so lame, you would not be such a try-hard at attempting to shame us.

    This thread is quite a laughable read, thanks to you, OP!

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    I said the mgtow community consists of, competitive members. You cant unite easily.
    And so what if we are competitive and a little rough at times? Do you expect everyone to have the same opinion? You expect PROUD MGTOW MEN to be 'yes' men and say 'I agree' at anything? We have enough dumb mgtow online for that.

    'Yea man, women are emotional, men are rational' Any monkey can say that! And it isn't even true!

    That is why this forum excels, precisely because people are held accountable for their claims. If you make a weak argument, you better be ready to back it up! And yet we do care about other men, but we care enough for the truth as well!

    community is a mourning and friendship community, to pass a boring weekend.
    What is wrong in listening to a fellow MGTOW suffering and hardship? That is why this forum changes lives. It's not some BS 'be positive' or 'be alpha' shit. That shit is what is ruining men's lives! Again a monkey could utter this shit!

    Women all across the world have a sisterhood. You men cant get along even in your little mgtow community here.
    We aren't here to 'get along'. That is for pussies and manginas. We are here, primarily, I assume to search for TRUTH.

    And every member has its own definition of mgtow. This is a crappy community.
    Yes, that is why this forum excels! We are curious and we have the intellectual capacity to interpret concepts differently. But having said that what unites us is our understanding that we live in a gynocentric world is actively hostile against the 'everyday man'. The average man.

    No one on this forums disagrees with that. They may have different views on biology or psychology, but the fundamentals are shared values, and that unites us enough.

    Mgtow commuinity is like a library of books
    on failed lives, and the corruption of the system and women. No wonder many are lurkers and do not join. Its a library, not a community. All act individually. You acheive nothing. I am mgtow, but not part of these mgtow communities.
    From what you said in your first post, you are definitely not a MGTOW. You probably hate MGTOW. You sound very much like a tradcon who wants wimmins to be 'feminine' and you clearly blame 'evil backstabbing men' for female corruption instead of holding cunts accountable for their behaviour. You have YET to blame women for even one morally corrupt action which they engage in on a daily basis.

    But what they have got versus, what they have lost, is nothing. They have lost their honour and dignity. New generations of men across the world have much lower value for females in their minds, than former generations.

    And as I said in my former post, I put the main blame, on stupid evil backstabbing men, from among men. Women couldnt make it themselves.
    There we have it, a disillusioned tradcon, strolls in here and tries to 'unite' us (under falsehood) so we can save women from themselves. No thanks.

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    Re: International Feminism

    MGTOW. We're all going our own way, which is OUTWARD, AWAY from gynocentric society and the burning plantation. We are common only in that we are going (a) AWAY and (b) at the same time. Some of us find we have similar hobbies and interests and we can discuss these, like a recent thread on horticulture. We are rediscovering our love for the planet, for hunting and fishing, for cars and motorcycles, machines, beer, pizza, friends, leisure and most importantly a satisfying and fulfilling life free of hassle, wanton spending and manipulation. We are rediscovering ourselves, and clearly for some of us (including me) it's a painful and protracted process. This makes us an easy target for derision but clearly none of us give a fuck.

    There is no need for us to organize. Society has become disorganized and we are merely a symptom that. In fact, we use the disorganization to our advantage. There is no expectation for women to be married to have children, or to become married to have status in our society. All men are saying now is that what is good for the goose is good for the gander.

    OP - Join up or not. But if you join, follow the simple sign up procedure and fulfill the intro requirement.

    I don't need to sell this place to anyone. It sells itself to woke men - Red Pill men. Or just Blue Pill men looking for some encouragement to take the Red Pill and take the leap.
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